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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-07
09:47:23 cdent I think it should
09:47:34 cdent since if a service is diabled it is not providing resources
09:48:21 bauzas cdent: that would be one option, I agree
09:48:26 gibi cdent: it is not that simple. As disabling a host doesn't mean that the VMs running on that host freed up all the resources
09:48:43 gibi cdent: so that host still providing resources to existing VMs
09:48:54 bauzas gibi: from a placement perspective, we don't care about the space that RP has
09:49:14 cdent bauzas: actaully gibi’s right: we want to use allocations to indicate quota use
09:49:19 bauzas gibi: unless *cough cough* we have shared resources from that honst :)
09:49:30 cdent and we can’t delete an rp (or inventory) if there are allocations in use
09:49:46 bauzas yet another can of worms spotted IMHO
09:49:54 cdent sigh, what a twisted web we weave
09:50:04 bauzas anyway, should only be optimization, since we have ComputeFilter
09:50:58 bauzas that's just we're providing a whole list that can be long of potential candidates that are eventually not selected because of the computefilter
09:51:07 bauzas again, low
09:51:16 bauzas the other bug is more concerning me
09:51:38 cdent I _think_ the fix is relatively straightforward on that one
09:51:39 bauzas I'll try to look at a proper resolution once I'm done with writing the prelude section explaining how great we are :)
09:52:11 cdent but given how many gears within gears we have, who knows what the cascades will be
09:52:39 gibi cdent: you mean this is an interesting challenge? :)
09:53:10 cdent gibi: heh, that’s very positive of you for a monday morning
09:53:20 bauzas cdent: I really wanted to help placement bugfixing, permission to work on the critical one ? :)
09:53:31 bauzas the resize ones were just killing my brain
09:54:18 cdent bauzas: I don’t think you need to ask my permission, if you want that one, take it. I haven’t started on it. I need to catch up on a bunch of reviews, and then later in the day I’ll go back to breaking stuff and reporting bugs
09:54:29 bauzas roger.
09:54:38 cdent I set up a 6 node devstack over the weekend so I can do some real experimentation. I fear what I might find.
09:54:44 gibi cdent: I just want to motivate you to dig into it :)
09:54:49 bauzas permission is more for making sure I'm not duplicating efforts
09:55:08 bauzas like, /me taking mutex on it
09:55:09 cdent bauzas: godspeed
09:55:12 bauzas voilà.
09:56:28 bauzas FWIW, I'm in a perfect place for chasing bugs
09:56:38 bauzas litterally 200m away from the meditarean sea
10:09:43 ratailor Can anybody help me in debugging this code block.
10:09:44 ratailor https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/host_mapping.py#L90-L93
10:10:19 ratailor How can I check value of api_models.HostMapping.host in above code block.
10:10:22 stephenfin sdague, bauzas, cdent: Is live migration an operator or user-level operation, i.e. 'doc/source/admin' or 'doc/source/user'?
10:12:15 stephenfin I ask because I think I might need to move this document https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490952/1/doc/source/admin/migration.rst
10:12:29 stephenfin and this, for evacuate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490952/1/doc/source/admin/evacuate.rst
10:13:15 bauzas stephenfin: live migrations are only possible for users that are having admin keystone rights
10:13:29 stephenfin bauzas: and evacuations?
10:14:12 bauzas stephenfin: AFAIR, evacuations are only for admin-only too since it requires a knowledge of your host health
10:14:19 bauzas stephenfin: but I can check the policy
10:14:44 bauzas stephenfin: the thing is, we show those operations by the CLI
10:14:45 stephenfin bauzas: So they both warrant staying in the admin guide. I'll keep them there so. Thanks! :)
10:14:53 stephenfin what do you mean?
10:14:59 stephenfin "by the CLI"?
10:15:07 bauzas stephenfin: I mean a single user can see those operations
10:15:14 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Add a prelude section for Pike https://review.openstack.org/491424
10:15:34 stephenfin bauzas: You mean regardless of whether they're an admin or not?
10:15:40 bauzas stephenfin: yup
10:15:52 bauzas it will just give'em a 401 if they try
10:16:43 bauzas the fact is, I don't remember which specific move operation is either admin-only or regular user, depending if people provided a target or not
10:17:08 bauzas but anyway, those two tools (live-mig and evac) are aimed for admins anyway
10:18:21 stephenfin bauzas: Right, they can stay where they are now so
10:19:08 bauzas it'll take a while tho, under 1Mbps b/w
10:24:37 bauzas stephenfin: okay, confirmed, live-migrations and evacuations are admin-only, and cold migrations depend on whether you specify a target or not
10:30:07 stephenfin bauzas: Awesome. It stays in the admin guide so
10:35:48 sdague stephenfin: right, with default policy they are both admin only
10:36:09 sdague bauzas: I'm confused about your single user statement
10:42:58 vks1 sdague: hi
10:44:56 sdague vks1: morning
10:45:14 vks1 sdague: good morning
10:46:49 vks1 sdague: for REST API we use iso format for timestamp, which oslo API is used to generate that ?
10:50:17 bauzas sdague: sorry, was disconnected, which statement in particular?
10:56:43 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add additional content to admin guide https://review.openstack.org/490952
10:59:29 sdague vks1: I'm not sure it's coming from oslo
11:00:54 sdague vks1: I think they are going through this - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/6e77e75993c5b431c68c963bb06494ae5d36b944/nova/utils.py#L1344-L1355
11:12:08 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Fix migrate single instance when it was created concurrently https://review.openstack.org/491439
11:14:00 bauzas cdent: gibi: ^
11:14:15 gibi bauzas: looking
11:22:23 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove 'contrib' directory https://review.openstack.org/491443
11:22:24 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove files from 'tools' https://review.openstack.org/491444
11:27:59 gibi bauzas: I left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491439
11:33:58 stephenfin asettle_: If you have time this week, I'd like your thoughts on what we can do with the admin guide going forward https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490952/
11:34:46 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test resize with too big flavor https://review.openstack.org/490814
11:34:52 asettle_ stephenfin: I can do thoughts
11:34:55 stephenfin It's pretty...icky right now and I haven't even started dragging in the stuff from the old configuration guide
11:35:04 stephenfin asettle_: thoughts are good
11:36:21 asettle_ Okay, lemme go have a look at the beautiful build
11:36:41 asettle_ Well, that's just stunning isn't it
11:36:48 asettle_ I like the uhh... raw... blob ... of it all
11:36:58 stephenfin What can I say
11:36:59 stephenfin I've a knack
11:37:52 asettle_ You truly do
11:37:59 asettle_ Hmm, okay. I'll have a lookie and comment
11:40:03 asettle_ It'd be cool to have this as Administration Guides or something similar :) (cause it's for the tasks, mostly)
11:40:03 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test resize with too big flavor https://review.openstack.org/490814
11:40:58 stephenfin asettle_: Can't argue with that
11:42:04 stephenfin The tasks seem to be broken up into two types two: cloud-level tasks and instance-level ones
11:42:11 stephenfin *two types too
11:42:50 stephenfin I'd guess most of the configuration guides docs, once added, would fall into the former
11:44:21 asettle_ I would imagine so, ya
11:44:31 asettle_ Give me the afternoon to poke around :) I just gotta scoot out for lunch before afternoon meetings
12:05:03 sdague stephenfin / asettle_ another one of those subpages is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490994/
12:05:23 sdague I think I pushed that after you all had kicked off for the weekend
12:24:14 stephenfin sdague: done
12:24:56 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: tools: Remove dead script https://review.openstack.org/480138
12:26:53 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tools/xenserver: Remove 'cleanup_sm_locks' https://review.openstack.org/416520
12:27:43 stephenfin Couple of trivial "remove dead files" patches here, were anyone looking for easy +2s https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:trivial+owner:%22Stephen+Finucane+%253Cstephenfin%2540redhat.com%253E%22+status:open
12:34:40 cdent jaypipes: your hip/back/whatever any better?

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