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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-27
15:47:50 mriedem yeah the glance image meta is stored all over the place...
15:48:11 mdbooth So that's why it's ide
15:48:17 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove **kwargs passing in payload __init__ https://review.openstack.org/418489
15:48:19 mdbooth Why does it fail to boot?
15:48:23 mriedem and when you snapshot a server with volumes attached, the bdm meta goes into the image snapshot meta
15:49:16 zioproto cant find this ide metadata doing select * from volume_glance_metadata where volume_id=uuid
15:51:06 zioproto I give up for today
15:51:10 zioproto thanks for the help
15:51:20 zioproto I will give feedback once this is fixed
15:51:45 zioproto it is probably a corner case because this VM with this cinder volume was created in a weird way
15:51:54 zioproto what is sure is that it booted once in the past
15:52:00 zioproto thank you
15:52:02 mriedem zioproto: i also wouldn't be surprised if swap volume or something was involved
15:52:17 mriedem maybe cinder has a record of volume retype/migrations you can find?
15:52:26 zioproto I have no idea
15:52:34 zioproto in the action log of nova I can find only the start and stop
15:53:02 mriedem right we don't record instance actions for swap volume apparently
15:53:05 mriedem which seems like a gap to me
15:57:16 johnthetubaguy mriedem: there was a spec up at one point to add instance actions into all the missing APIs, I think that had a list of them missing ones
15:57:24 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Plumbing for tagged nic attachment https://review.openstack.org/415622
15:57:26 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Delete nic metadata when detaching interface https://review.openstack.org/435387
15:57:27 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Libvirt support for tagged volume attachment https://review.openstack.org/418100
15:57:31 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Delete disk metadata when detaching volume https://review.openstack.org/435082
15:57:37 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Plumbing for tagged volume attachment https://review.openstack.org/391941
15:57:37 mriedem johnthetubaguy: ok so just an oversight and not intentional
15:57:37 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: API support for tagged device attachment https://review.openstack.org/376021
15:57:40 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Libvirt support for tagged nic attachment https://review.openstack.org/415520
15:57:51 johnthetubaguy mriedem: yeah, its just a not finished thing, I believe
15:58:56 johnthetubaguy mriedem: as volume operations don't change the server state, generally, they are in a slight bit of limbo in our error handling, honestly
16:00:15 mriedem the task state changes
16:00:26 imacdonn mdbooth: still around ?
16:00:37 prometheanfire mriedem: you know about the novaclient issues (8.0.0 not in UC because it looks like it breaks things) https://review.openstack.org/454164
16:00:42 mriedem nova/cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-cp
16:00:56 mriedem prometheanfire: i know osc and horizon had issues
16:00:58 mriedem b/c of nova-network
16:01:11 prometheanfire k, just making sure you were aware
16:01:20 mriedem prometheanfire: it came up in the mailing list about a month ago i think
16:01:27 mriedem but yeah
16:01:27 mriedem thanks
16:01:35 prometheanfire ya, it's a older review now
16:02:10 sdague prometheanfire: horizon said they were dropping it
16:02:16 mdbooth zioproto: That metadata will only be set on the root volume, btw
16:02:28 mdbooth imacdonn: Yep
16:02:44 imacdonn mdbooth: hi ... just checking if you're still following https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1683972 ?
16:02:44 openstack Launchpad bug 1683972 in os-brick "Overlapping iSCSI volume detach/attach can leave behind broken SCSI devices and multipath maps." [Undecided,New]
16:02:58 mriedem johnthetubaguy: also related to cinder telling nova to do things https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/nova-support-attached-volume-extend.html
16:03:07 mriedem ^ i brought up the error handling and instance actions stuff in that too
16:03:14 mriedem b/c if/when it fails we need a way to report it
16:03:42 imacdonn mdbooth: I added os-brick and geguileo to it, but haven't heard anything from that side either
16:03:54 mdbooth imacdonn: Just reading your comments
16:04:03 imacdonn mdbooth: k, tnx
16:04:54 mdbooth imacdonn: Did you get the chance to try with the very latest os-brick?
16:05:24 mdbooth Ignore me, I see you did
16:05:40 imacdonn mdbooth: I applied the patch for that specific fix... I suppose it's possible that something else changed in another commit, but I doubt it
16:10:36 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: This patch hit a merge conflict. Fancy reviewing it again to get it in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418489
16:10:50 sfinucan (previously +w'd, but very prone to merge conflict)
16:11:15 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Replace reserved_host_disk_mb with reserved_host_disk_gb https://review.openstack.org/460661
16:11:15 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove dead code https://review.openstack.org/460662
16:11:24 mdbooth imacdonn: So you're referring to _disconnect_volume_iscsi in os-brick, right?
16:11:34 sfinucan ^ edleafe, jaypipes: You might like the first of those
16:11:40 mdbooth imacdonn: The block starting:
16:11:46 mdbooth # NOTE(vish): Only disconnect from the target if no luns from the
16:11:46 mdbooth # target are in use.
16:11:52 sfinucan or you might not. It's kind of hacky, but oslo.config doesn't give me anything more powerful :(
16:12:02 mdbooth imacdonn: That's definitely looks racy
16:12:15 edleafe sfinucan: thx - will review
16:12:18 jaypipes sfinucan: cool, added to my queue. :)
16:12:54 imacdonn mdbooth: yes .. I understand why they want to clean up the session if it's not needed any more, but it reopens that window where another attachment cause zombie devices to appear
16:16:45 mdbooth imacdonn: So again the issue here is that we drop and then re-establish the connection to the target before terminate_connection has completed
16:17:17 mdbooth And on re-establishing the connection, we rescan and get the lun on the host
16:17:34 mdbooth And then terminate_connection does its thing and it goes stale
16:17:42 mdbooth Have I got the sequence right?
16:18:30 imacdonn mdbooth: there's no explicit rescan, but I suppose there is an effective one ... i.e. on new session establishment, *all* LUNs offered by the target are discovered
16:18:38 mdbooth Right
16:19:26 mdbooth So again we want a per-target lock which covers attach, detach, and terminate connection
16:19:54 imacdonn mdbooth: That seems to be the only way to really cover it
16:20:17 imacdonn mdbooth: I'm also a little bit wary of the os-brick patch .. it seems a bit sketchy, they way he's doing it now
16:20:33 mdbooth The problem being that at the scope where we could currently put that lock we have no knowledge of targets
16:23:21 mdbooth imacdonn mriedem johnthetubaguy: How many iscsi targets would typically exist in a deployment?
16:23:57 mdbooth I personally baulk at the idea of a Global ISCSI Lock
16:24:24 mdbooth But if a typical deployment would only have a single iscsi target anyway, then getting exercised about it is a bit pointless
16:24:48 mriedem mdbooth: 0 idea
16:24:54 mriedem mdbooth: you'd have to ask jgriffith or hemna probably
16:24:58 imacdonn in my deployments, I have two per AZ ... they are the two halves of a ZFSSA cluster
16:25:11 mdbooth Are there deployments out there doing lots of connect/disconnect which would be knobbled if you just serialised all iscsi operations regardless?
16:25:22 dansmith you have at least one target per cinder-volume worker I think,
16:25:23 hemna mdbooth, what do you mean?
16:25:44 dansmith so if you're running a bunch of cinder-volumes with local LVM type stuff, you could have lots of targets right?
16:25:51 hemna yes
16:26:11 hemna and you'd have lots of targets if you used a storage array behind cinder too
16:26:17 dansmith yeah
16:26:30 hemna a target per exported volume
16:26:32 mdbooth Ok, so a global iscsi lock would be a significant difference in practise to a per-target lock
16:26:57 mdbooth It would still be per-host though, I guess
16:27:00 mdbooth Perhaps it's not that bad
16:27:07 imacdonn depends on the type of storage array perhaps .. the ZFSSA has one target per control-head, and lots of volumes on that target with different LUN numbers
16:27:51 hemna but that's one target portal
16:28:02 hemna with multiple targets (one per lun)
16:28:28 hemna either way, yes, you can have multiple targets per storage backend going to the same initiator
16:28:54 hemna so there is a potential race between calling os-brick's disconnect_volume and calling cinder's terminate_connection.

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