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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-17
19:15:44 edleafe mriedem: http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/95q2/pants.html
19:15:49 mriedem dansmith: haven't gotten the template yet
19:16:52 mriedem edleafe: ok i figured poo was involved
19:18:24 mriedem dansmith: jaypipes: for the project update, when it gets to the part about the R release content, that's when i hand over the mic
19:18:45 dansmith mriedem: and that's when the pants really help
19:19:15 mriedem no it's simple
19:19:20 mriedem "nested resource providers by R"
19:19:24 mriedem "maybe"
19:19:40 dansmith heh
19:19:43 mriedem "hierarchical quotas?"
19:20:37 mriedem jaypipes: you want me to take my turn at updating this spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454983/
19:20:51 mriedem i want to just say we're going to deprecate the old cinder/glance/neutron endpoint options once we are using ksa
19:21:04 mriedem and drop those in the next release
19:21:17 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety https://review.openstack.org/443174
19:21:17 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt https://review.openstack.org/444487
19:21:19 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall https://review.openstack.org/442736
19:21:20 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make server groups api aware of multiple cells for membership https://review.openstack.org/457338
19:21:21 mriedem jaypipes: plus probably change assignee to TBD
19:21:49 mriedem will need to sync up with john this week about what osic owned that now needs a new owner
19:27:18 lifeless efried: bugs.python.org still
19:28:21 efried lifeless Someone tagged an existing bug that looked likely. I've got no experience looking at these things, but it doesn't look like it's in a release yet.
19:29:09 efried And likelihood of backport to 2.7 seems low, so I'm not sure it's going to be much use to me in the near future.
19:31:18 mriedem ooo nice http://docs-draft.openstack.org/98/456198/1/check/gate-placement-api-ref-nv/deee665//placement-api-ref/build/html/
19:32:14 jaypipes mriedem: yes, please go ahead on that service catalog spec.
19:37:31 lifeless efried: so 'mock' is the backport mechanism, if there is a fix in git, we'll pick it up and make it available
19:38:02 efried lifeless Okay, cool. I'll keep an eye on those two bug reports.
19:38:04 efried Thanks
19:39:43 mordred jaypipes: it's not as good as my summit talk that didn't get accepted
19:40:11 jaypipes lol
19:51:09 mriedem alex_xu: this must be yingxin's perf benchmark tool for the nova scheduler https://github.com/cyx1231st/nova-scheduler-bench
19:53:57 mriedem nice, readme says you can use devstack single node
20:00:58 comstud mriedem: quotas are not my fault.
20:01:10 comstud :)
20:01:16 mriedem comstud: is that something i said 3 weeks ago?
20:01:24 comstud at least
20:01:27 mriedem ha
20:01:38 mriedem comstud: but your name is all over the TODOs :)
20:01:53 comstud My name was over a race condition TODO re: instance delete
20:02:04 mriedem guilt by association
20:02:08 comstud but that TODO existed prior to quotas
20:02:12 comstud :)
20:02:24 mriedem comstud: riddle me this: who do i blame for instance delete?
20:02:38 comstud well
20:02:41 comstud a lot of people
20:02:49 comstud I did put effort into trying to resolve races
20:03:13 jroll whoa, comstud is here
20:03:15 comstud that particular TODO you were asking about... was definitely to cover the case of 2 concurrent API requests for deleting the same instance
20:03:20 comstud jroll: :)
20:03:31 mriedem comstud: you should realize by now that anything i mention and call you out is just an attempt to lure you back
20:03:43 comstud The quotas code in general needed a lot of love when I stopped openstacking.
20:03:49 comstud and I'm guessing it has never been improvemd
20:03:51 comstud improved
20:03:54 mriedem comstud: wip
20:04:03 comstud heheh
20:04:07 mriedem wip == the status melwitt gives in each week's cells meeting
20:04:21 comstud you asked me to smack you around... I'd gladly do it
20:04:26 mriedem comstud: but https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/cells-count-resources-to-check-quota-in-api.html
20:04:29 comstud although there was no other context at the time
20:04:32 comstud hehe
20:05:33 comstud IIRC, quotas were very fragile even without cells
20:05:52 comstud the soft deleting of instances in particular caused issues
20:06:23 mriedem yes, soft delete is terrible
20:06:24 comstud i know I'd made a number of comments on how to fix it
20:06:27 comstud but
20:06:35 comstud i don't remember exactly what they were
20:06:35 mriedem well,
20:06:38 comstud i think it was...
20:06:44 mriedem soft delete + quotas + local delete code in the api
20:06:47 comstud move some code very close to the real delete.
20:07:01 comstud but that's the other issue...
20:07:10 comstud edge cases when compute host is down
20:07:13 comstud etc
20:07:29 mriedem yeah see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386756/
20:07:40 mriedem we've also duplicated a lot of that local delete logic too
20:07:47 mriedem since you've been gone
20:08:10 mriedem oh, let's not forget shelve offloaded
20:08:33 comstud ya, i dunno when shelved was added
20:08:41 comstud i think it was after I stopped focusing on nova
20:08:46 mriedem really?
20:08:48 mriedem i figured it was older
20:08:53 mriedem what i refer to as "the before times"
20:08:59 comstud haha
20:09:15 comstud well, it's new enough that I don't remember much about it
20:09:19 mriedem nova, BC (before comstud)
20:09:20 comstud it is familiar to me, so I know it must have existed
20:09:35 comstud but I might have been more focused on Ironic at the time
20:09:40 mriedem ok,
20:09:43 mriedem well, fyi, don't use it
20:10:03 comstud haha
20:10:08 comstud don't use openstack?
20:10:09 comstud yeah, I know.
20:10:23 mriedem ouch
20:11:29 comstud in any case, i remember feeling like the quota code needed a complete re-do
20:11:44 mriedem that's what melwitt is working on
20:12:01 mriedem taking out reservations and commit/rollback
20:12:34 mriedem if i mention her enough, she's bound to show up too :)
20:13:48 comstud hehe
20:16:48 Apoorva Cinder CI tests are failing with following error http://paste.openstack.org/show/606920/ Can someone help?
20:17:10 Apoorva Failures are in n-cpu.log http://openstack-ci.tintri.com/tintri/refs-changes-58-430858-3/logs/screen-n-cpu.log.txt
20:17:26 mriedem Apoorva: is your CI using the ubuntu cloud archive?

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