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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-06
18:15:24 cdent ah, cool, that would explain why I can't find it :) thanks
18:15:35 melwitt heh, sorry about that
18:16:14 cdent no problem, you're the one who is making with the good works
18:51:32 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-networks in servers API https://review.openstack.org/450837
18:51:56 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the json-schema extension point of server create https://review.openstack.org/451194
18:52:12 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the stevedore extension point for server create https://review.openstack.org/451195
18:54:42 sdague mriedem: you want in on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448882 before I approve (nova cert removal)
18:54:46 sdague ?
18:59:57 diana_clarke Anyone have time to put my last nova patch out of its misery? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447688/ thx!
19:01:38 dansmith I bet sdague wants that one
19:01:53 mriedem sdague: probably
19:02:19 stevemar mriedem: why you gotta break osc for!
19:02:35 mriedem stevemar: novaclient 8.0?
19:02:41 stevemar yah
19:02:42 mriedem stevemar: upper-constraints?
19:03:04 stevemar i assume the gate is fine, someone pinged me from BB about latest pip install of osc is broken
19:03:08 stevemar cause they don't UC
19:03:18 mriedem nuts to them
19:03:23 mriedem i don't work for BB anymore sucka
19:03:26 stevemar :)
19:03:31 stevemar we'll fix it up
19:04:13 mriedem btw, more than 6 months to notice the deprecation warning
19:04:58 mriedem sdague: did anyone from ec2api ever chime in?
19:05:01 mriedem b/c this will break them
19:05:12 mriedem oh i see ftersin did
19:10:38 mriedem sdague: +W
19:12:36 mriedem when can we remove os-cloudpipe?
19:13:06 mriedem macsz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-cert
19:13:10 mriedem :(
19:16:01 mriedem i created it
19:16:15 macsz mriedem: ?
19:16:23 mriedem you hadn't created the actual bp in lp
19:16:47 macsz oh, i lost something
19:18:05 mriedem who wants it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/
19:18:18 mriedem dansmith: i'll trade you ^ for your workaround patch
19:19:05 dansmith k
19:19:08 macsz waswas wondering what happened but it seems that once more you were faster than me and created the bp, mriedem
19:19:35 dansmith mriedem: heh, that conflicts with my hostapi patch.. damn you
19:20:02 mriedem it shouldn't
19:20:09 mriedem yours doesn't touch the delete path
19:20:54 sdague mriedem: when ever anyone writes the deprecation spec
19:21:03 sdague I am sure that it hasn't worked in years
19:21:35 mriedem i would, but (1) i don't want to and (2) i'm not sure i even understand what it is to explain it and why we want to remove it, except it's not supported
19:21:44 mriedem some kind of direct vpn image download to the vm or something?
19:22:20 mriedem ooo https://www.mirantis.com/blog/cloudpipe-image-creation-automation/
19:22:21 dansmith mriedem: well, gerrit says it does.. it's fine anyway
19:22:58 mriedem damn the link to the cactus release docs don't work anymore...
19:25:11 sdague mriedem: it all depends on vlan nova network stuff right? which means whenever the great nova-network delete happens it's all definitely bust
19:26:02 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add sync_instances action in os-cells API https://review.openstack.org/453366
19:26:04 mriedem yeah i guess
19:27:05 mriedem so cloudpipe just basically creates a vm and then you ssh into that vm to get into the internal tenant network?
19:28:27 mriedem yeah anyway, nova-network plus unmaintained plus neutron vpnaas
19:28:30 mriedem equals death
19:33:46 mriedem ooo https://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/06/20/setup-cloud-pipe-vpn-in-openstack/ talks about using nova x509-create-cert which relies on none other than the nova-cert service...
19:33:52 mriedem which we just said we were going to kill
19:34:18 mriedem so, as part of the nova-cert removal, we probably also need to deprecate os-cloudpipe
19:51:32 openstackgerrit Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322
20:01:27 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Change livesnapshot to true by default https://review.openstack.org/454323
20:08:14 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Deprecate certs commands and APIs https://review.openstack.org/454326
20:08:17 mriedem macsz: ^
20:09:01 macsz mriedem: should i draft a spec for it?
20:12:11 mriedem macsz: for what?
20:12:17 mriedem cloudpipe/
20:12:18 mriedem sure
20:12:35 macsz or can we smuggle it under the cert deprecation banner?
20:12:47 sdague macsz: I'm pro smuggle
20:13:06 mriedem if we smuggle, we should probably amend the spec
20:13:11 sdague mriedem: yeh
20:13:14 macsz the spec was merged, but i can also do a follow-up patch that modifies the current spec
20:13:26 sdague macsz: ++ an ammend would be great
20:13:27 macsz yeah, shorter way to say what i meant
20:20:47 openstackgerrit Sihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/454328
20:22:01 macsz mriedem: it seems that os-cloudpipe is already deprecated
20:22:02 macsz https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/os-cloudpipe.inc
20:23:13 mriedem just in the docs
20:23:31 mriedem it doesn't return an error though on any microversion like 2.36 would for listing networks
20:24:14 mriedem i don't know if we're proposing to just remove it, like os-certificates, or deprecating it with a microversion, but if we remove nova-network and nova-cert, then it seems kind of pointless to do the microversoin
20:24:16 mriedem sdague: ^ thoughts?
20:26:20 macsz doc mentions that os-cloudpipe works only with nova-net, so there is really no point in having it around, with or without nova-cert, it seems
20:27:16 mriedem we still have nova-net
20:27:20 mriedem although
20:27:24 mriedem nova-net is cells v1 only now
20:27:33 mriedem and i assume os-cloudpipe doesn't work with cells v1
20:29:06 mriedem it might, it's a weird orchestration api that creates an instance for you
20:29:10 mriedem with a configured vpn image
20:30:04 mriedem so the cloudpipe api should have been deprecated with 2.36 when we did the other nova-net stuff, like multinic
20:30:24 mriedem alex_xu: is deprecating the multinic api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384261/
20:30:32 mriedem since it's nova-net really
20:30:41 mriedem maybe we should do cloudpipe and multinic in the same spec?
20:30:42 openstackgerrit Sihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/454328
20:31:16 mriedem but if you need os-certificates to use os-cloudpipe and we remove os-certificates, then...
20:31:45 sdague mriedem: yeh, I feel like we should just couple it to the os-certificates delete
20:31:50 mriedem that's fine
20:33:31 macsz is there a spec for os-certificates?
20:33:41 mriedem dansmith: so i'm trying to think about impacts with your workaround config, and what if any other config options we should note are related to that one, like track_instance_changes
20:33:46 mriedem since i think track_instance_changes is tied to affinity
20:33:57 mriedem macsz: your one for removing nova-cert :)
20:34:00 mriedem remember?!
20:34:11 macsz xD
20:34:22 macsz yeah, i do... :D

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