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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-05
12:54:06 markus_z alex_xu: Please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453220/
12:58:19 jaypipes mdbooth: "searchlight should load it from nova" <-- hmm, pretty sure Searchlight isn't going to want to do that :)
12:58:30 jaypipes mdbooth: though I agree with your general statement.
12:58:37 jaypipes about long-term maintenance of the code.
12:59:09 mdbooth jaypipes: I briefly poked around in searchlight's nova plugin, and it contains a bunch of assumptions about state transitions
12:59:24 mdbooth Things which we don't even do a good job of following just within compute manager
12:59:25 jaypipes mdbooth: like I said, I agree with your general statement :)
12:59:51 jaypipes mdbooth: I'm just saying I don't believe searchlight will want to make a dependency on any nova Python package.
12:59:56 mdbooth Duplicating in a proverbial locked cabinet behind a door marked 'beware of the leopard' seems unwise
13:00:16 jaypipes mdbooth: unless we created a different wheel entirely for this, housed in the nova source tree, but packaged separately.
13:00:25 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077
13:00:37 mdbooth jaypipes: Right, I wasn't really suggesting that. More that if they defined a plugin api, they could just load a bunch of plugins
13:00:50 jaypipes ya
13:00:52 mdbooth And the nova plugin would be part of nova
13:00:55 jaypipes totally makes sense.
13:01:01 mriedem searchlight wouldn't import nova, it would load a stevedore extension right?
13:01:11 mriedem all runtime shenanigans
13:01:22 mdbooth mriedem: Yeah, totally at runtime
13:01:28 jaypipes mriedem: yeah, but how would the Nova plugin code "get" to searchlight?
13:01:37 jaypipes mriedem: you need to ship the code from something...
13:02:15 jaypipes mriedem: that's all I'm referring to here. the mechanism for delivering that code into a place searchlight knows about...
13:02:50 jaypipes alex_xu: around? I'd love to make progress on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376200/ today if you can.
13:04:21 bauzas johnthetubaguy: reviewing it now
13:09:19 yasemin_ artom, which one is true for compute nodes, placement-api or placement-client?
13:11:06 dane-fichter jaypipes: have you looked at the newest draft of the cert validation spec?
13:11:18 jaypipes dane-fichter: no sir, not yet.
13:11:56 dane-fichter jaypipes: ok. I think peter posted it yesterday but it was after y'all had already kind of established your queues for spec review day
13:12:51 jaypipes dane-fichter: will take another look today.
13:12:59 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077
13:13:03 dane-fichter jaypipes: thanks jay!
13:13:08 yasemin_ frickler, artom, which one is true for compute nodes, placement-api or placement-client?
13:28:36 mriedem claudiub: for volume attach, does hyperv honor the user-supplied device name (if one is provided)?
13:36:51 artom mriedem, wait, in a Windows guest?
13:36:56 artom As in, 'D:' ?
13:37:39 mriedem hyperv can run linux guests right?
13:37:46 mriedem but that's a good question - what if it's a windows guest
13:37:46 artom yasemin_, I'm not sure I understand your question, how can placement-api be true on a compute node?
13:38:03 mriedem yasemin_: for devstack? placement-client
13:38:10 mriedem as a subnode
13:38:12 mriedem in devstack
13:38:19 yasemin_ artom, yes for devstack compute node enable services
13:38:44 artom mriedem, huh, TIL hyperv isn't limited to Windows guests
13:38:50 mriedem yasemin_: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/features.yaml#L269
13:39:12 mriedem yasemin_: that's when d-g is setting up a subnode
13:39:13 artom yasemin_, compute node only needs placement-client, methinks
13:40:06 yasemin_ okey
13:40:50 EmilienM hello here, can you review this patch please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453338 - it would help TripleO CI to test upgrades from Ocata to Pike. Thanks a lot!
13:42:09 jaypipes melwitt: pls see my comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453030/...
13:42:29 jaypipes melwitt: it's already been approved, but I have some requests for you in there.
13:43:16 jaypipes melwitt: we should really be using GET /usages, not GET /allocations for the quota-counting call.
13:46:01 claudiub mriedem: hi. nope, we can't honor that.
13:46:30 claudiub mriedem: and ofc, hyper-v can run linux guests. :)
13:47:14 mriedem claudiub: thanks
13:47:17 mriedem i'm not sure about vmware
13:47:22 mriedem i think xen might be the only one
13:49:10 bauzas jaypipes: heh, split-brain is not exactly happening in systems with leader elections
13:49:19 bauzas it can happen there, but it's just a case
13:49:39 bauzas my own definition of split-brain is when you have 2 datasets being inconsistent
13:49:53 bauzas which is larger than yours :)
13:56:32 melwitt jaypipes: okay, thanks. I can propose an amendment to the spec
13:58:28 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add remove-nova-cert spec https://review.openstack.org/448882
14:02:40 gmann sdague: on extension removal, as i updated the base patch in that series, i ll rebase others if needed that might need re approval
14:03:04 gmann johnthetubaguy: can you check this base patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450834/
14:05:57 dane-fichter mriedem: when you get a chance, could you take a look at the newest cursive patch? it passes the experimental check.
14:06:03 dane-fichter mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351232/
14:07:14 mriedem yeah
14:15:41 mriedem jaypipes: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453030/ to be clear, are you saying both GET /allocations *and* GET /usages, or just the latter as a new handler?
14:17:01 melwitt is the placement-api-ref on docs.o.o anywhere? I can't find it
14:17:03 jaypipes mriedem: implement both in the REST API but have the quota-handling call only the GET /usages
14:18:38 mriedem jaypipes: why both
14:18:39 mriedem ?
14:18:46 mriedem why do we need two handlers for the same thing?
14:18:56 jaypipes mriedem: well, one is the detail view, the other is the aggregate view.
14:19:24 mriedem i think we need a respin of the spec then with the rest api impact section filled out with those details
14:19:38 mriedem if we're adding a new handler
14:19:57 melwitt mriedem: I'm working on an amendment for the spec to address everyone's comments
14:20:29 sdague melwitt: I'm not sure that publish loop ever fully got setup
14:20:56 melwitt sdague: ack, thanks
14:21:01 bauzas melwitt: it's in devref
14:21:36 bauzas melwitt: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/placement.html
14:21:38 melwitt bauzas: I found this but it says it's forthcoming https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/placement.html#api-reference
14:21:50 bauzas oh ok, my bad then
14:27:50 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: explain payload inheritance in notification devref https://review.openstack.org/453667
14:36:53 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Plumbing for tagged nic attachment https://review.openstack.org/415622
14:36:54 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Delete nic metadata when detaching interface https://review.openstack.org/435387
14:36:54 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Libvirt support for tagged volume attachment https://review.openstack.org/418100
14:36:56 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Delete disk metadata when detaching volume https://review.openstack.org/435082
14:36:59 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Plumbing for tagged volume attachment https://review.openstack.org/391941
14:37:01 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: API support for tagged device attachment https://review.openstack.org/376021
14:37:01 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Libvirt support for tagged nic attachment https://review.openstack.org/415520
14:37:04 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add method to invalidate metadata cache https://review.openstack.org/453673
14:52:53 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec to add per instance timeout for LM https://review.openstack.org/442809
15:00:55 jaypipes cdent: it's not about "doing a bit of math on the client side". rather, it's just making the REST API more useful, IMHO.
15:02:12 cdent I get where you're coming from, but you solution adds an endpoint for a specific result that can be serviced by something more generic that fits in with the existing grammar
15:02:37 cdent And I'm trying to toe the line on "only add stuff if we have to"
15:02:45 cdent and in this case there are plenty of ways to "not have to"
15:03:05 cdent If we decide to go with /usages, that's fine it's not a big deal
15:03:10 edleafe And is "usage" a resource? (in the REST sense of the word)
15:03:13 cdent but since we can do it another way, that's fine too
15:03:48 jaypipes edleafe: we already have /r-p/{uuid}/usages

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