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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-22
13:27:16 jaypipes interesting. lemme finish review on sfinucan's PCI NUMA reserve bp and then will look at it.
13:27:40 dansmith mriedem: yeah, I dunno how we ended up with those
13:27:57 mriedem extensions?
13:28:01 mriedem i blame extensions
13:28:03 jaypipes mb
13:35:37 dansmith sfinucan: hmm, it didn't look like a random failure, but okay
13:36:16 sfinucan All I know is it worked on my machine 🙃
13:39:13 openstackgerrit Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova master: neutron: retrieve physical network name from a multi-provider network https://review.openstack.org/430026
13:39:24 dansmith sfinucan: this one seems like it might should have a reno about removing the thing, especially since it's firewall/security related no? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430912/8
13:40:04 sfinucan dansmith: Actually, yeah - I promised that at the PTG. I'll whip one up now
13:40:13 dansmith thanks
13:40:31 sfinucan fwiw, I posted a question on "who uses this" to the operators-list and got zilch back
13:46:33 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove aggregate uuid generation on load from DB https://review.openstack.org/448579
13:46:48 bauzas mriedem: had a discussion with ttx this FR morning
13:46:54 bauzas mriedem: about the Forum
13:47:02 bauzas mriedem: not sure you saw that
13:47:12 dansmith sfinucan: cool
13:47:28 bauzas tl,dr: I just added a new section for our nova etherpad
13:47:37 bauzas mriedem: about things we could be discussing ad-hoc
13:48:12 sfinucan or not - looks like it got dropped :/ I'll add the reno then put that in -W for a week or so
13:48:46 openstackgerrit Danfly proposed openstack/nova master: remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_flavor_manage.py https://review.openstack.org/448581
13:50:54 bauzas dansmith: jroll: added a new comment for explaining why I think we could have a possible problem for rolling-upgrade with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446570/2
13:51:09 dansmith I'm reading now
13:52:42 jaypipes sfinucan, mriedem: k, reviewed.
13:53:24 sfinucan jaypipes: Excellent. I'll take a look shortly
13:53:29 sfinucan Cheers :)
13:54:19 openstackgerrit Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in cells_scheduler.py https://review.openstack.org/448260
13:55:19 jroll bauzas: replied
13:56:38 bauzas jroll: I thought we were asking operators to modify their flavors *before* upgrading to Pike
13:56:50 bauzas at least that's what we discussed at the PTG IIRC
13:57:43 jroll bauzas: right, and now we've found the catch and cannot do that
13:57:44 openstackgerrit dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova master: Use cursive for signature verification https://review.openstack.org/351232
13:58:08 jroll bauzas: we were hoping to drop cpu/memory/disk from the ironic resource in pike, it'll need to happen in queens now
13:58:42 bauzas jroll: okay, then I think we could be adding that into the spec by the operator impact section
14:00:52 jroll bauzas: sure, I could add "after fully deploying pike" there if it makes you happy
14:01:44 bauzas jroll: waiting for dansmith's opinion :)
14:02:14 dansmith bauzas: my opinion has already been expressed as a +2
14:02:44 dane-fichter mriedem: new patch shows how cursive integration would work with the next cursive release https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351232/12
14:03:02 mriedem ok
14:03:24 dane-fichter mriedem: basically just making the key types a public member and accessing it directly in fields.py
14:03:51 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate 'allow_same_net_traffic' https://review.openstack.org/430913
14:03:51 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Final cleanups in conf/network https://review.openstack.org/431023
14:03:52 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Ignore 'allow_same_net_traffic' for port filters https://review.openstack.org/430912
14:04:08 mriedem johnthetubaguy: looking at https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#hosts-os-hosts it links to the hypervisor support matrix which doesn't mention anything about host power actions for stop/start/reboot :) it does mention the host maintenance mode thing though https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html#operation_maintenance_mode and that it's only implemented for xen
14:04:40 johnthetubaguy mriedem: yeah, it doesn't do anything but change an icon in the management console
14:04:52 mriedem johnthetubaguy: i thought it auto-evacuated all guests from that xen host?
14:05:02 mriedem or something crazy like that
14:05:12 mriedem which i'd think would mess up resource tracking
14:05:29 mriedem like, i thought that was one of the primary reasons we said no to the hyperv cluster driver
14:05:36 openstackgerrit Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova-specs master: User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation https://review.openstack.org/182242
14:05:41 johnthetubaguy mriedem: no, thats just want people think it does
14:05:55 mriedem because it would auto load balance in the background cluster and we wouldn't know about the resource tracking changes, except the virt driver would hook back into the resource tracker and fiddle things for us, which we didn't want
14:06:08 mriedem johnthetubaguy: ok so it literally is only implemented by one virt driver, and does nothing :)
14:06:12 johnthetubaguy mriedem: yeah, that
14:06:18 mriedem that's aweoms
14:06:21 mriedem *awesome
14:06:23 johnthetubaguy agreed
14:06:46 mriedem i guess the description on https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html#operation_maintenance_mode is a lie then
14:08:26 dansmith mriedem: yeah it's always been xen-only
14:08:38 dansmith and very specific to how its own maintenance mode works, IIRC
14:08:53 dansmith which is why we didn't use it for force-down
14:09:04 johnthetubaguy mriedem: yeah, I think it might stop new instances being built, but thats it
14:09:38 johnthetubaguy I think its time to kill os-hosts
14:09:45 johnthetubaguy in the deprecate sense of kill
14:10:03 mriedem johnthetubaguy: yeah, i'll send something to the ML to see if anyone is actually using it
14:10:15 johnthetubaguy sounds good
14:10:15 mriedem i think i might draft a spec to go before this other one,
14:10:25 johnthetubaguy ah, yeah, that makes sense
14:10:37 mriedem so we could deprecate os-hosts first, and then to the uuid things on os-services and os-hypervisors
14:16:02 mriedem jaypipes: were you going to submit a forum topic session for placement on http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ or should i just do that?
14:17:24 mriedem bauzas: i did not see a discussion between you and ttx about the forum, no
14:18:13 bauzas dansmith: even after reviewing my comment ?
14:18:31 bauzas oh wait, you got commented too
14:18:53 openstackgerrit Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova-specs master: User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation https://review.openstack.org/182242
14:19:00 bauzas mriedem: basically got more explanations
14:21:18 jaypipes mriedem: I had put a couple ideas into the NFV/Telcom forum area: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming-Telecom&NFV
14:21:20 bauzas dansmith: okay, it's clear now that updating API flavors should be done after all nodes are Pike and before Queens
14:21:38 mriedem jaypipes: in case you haven't heard, the brainstorming etherpads are so last week
14:21:51 bauzas dansmith: and the nova-status check pre-flight test could warn them if not
14:21:52 mriedem jaypipes: this week the new hotness is submitting a session idea to forumtopics.o.o
14:22:00 mriedem jaypipes: and those get voted on by the TC/UC/Foundation
14:23:30 mriedem if you want i can just submit something generic for placement,
14:23:39 jaypipes mriedem: go for it.
14:23:41 mriedem that will be mostly geared toward ops and devs
14:23:42 mriedem ok
14:23:57 mriedem i'll just take dansmith's cells abstract and s/cells/placement/ :)
14:24:06 dansmith heh
14:26:25 ttx mriedem: FYI http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2017-03-22.log.html#t2017-03-22T08:26:04
14:26:42 ttx mriedem: but then I also answered on the ML thread
14:27:16 mriedem yup i'm reading the ML now
14:27:25 dansmith mriedem: I just hit your uuid spec, btw
14:27:33 mriedem ok
14:37:46 jroll bauzas: thanks for the spec merge :)
14:40:06 stvnoyes good morning. I am having a lot of trouble in my devstack env after updating to latest. The error is "Failed to retrieve resource provider record from placement API". It seems to have started with this change: "virt: add get_inventory() virt driver API method". The [placement] info in nova.conf looks ok. any ideas? Thanks.
14:44:52 sfinucan jaypipes: I've what looks like a frickin' essay left in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364468/ :D
14:46:21 jaypipes sfinucan: I shall respond, then, in haiku form.
14:48:26 cdent jaypipes will respond, in the form of a haiku, we all wait breath held
14:48:50 jaypipes cdent: :)
14:50:17 mriedem bauzas: you've got some unit test failures in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391060/
14:50:39 mriedem stvnoyes: are you using ironic?

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