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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-09
14:49:32 mdbooth TL;DR thin pools are very similar to sparse volumes. I don't want to support both. Happy to support thin pools, but only if we deprecate sparse volumes, we have a plan to convert sparse volumes to thin pools automatically (so we don't need to support both), and it's painless for the operator.
14:49:35 lyarwood mdbooth: I'll go over it again, did you see my comment a few days ago about the current lvm.conf in F25 defaulting to using thinp with the current lvcreate commands for sparse volumes in Nova
14:49:50 mdbooth lyarwood: I did, yes.
14:50:13 mdbooth I wonder if there are any implications of mixing them in the same VG.
14:50:42 mdbooth i.e. I created these sparse LVs before that change, and these other LVs after that change, so I have a mix in the same VG.
14:51:26 lyarwood mdbooth: I assume that's fine as they wouldn't change the default otherwise right?
14:51:29 mdbooth lyarwood: Anyway, I don't object to thin pools, only supporting 2 very similar ways to do the same thing.
14:52:03 mdbooth lyarwood: Hard data would be nice.
14:52:08 lyarwood yup agreed
14:53:25 cdent coreycb: that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1671509
14:53:25 openstack Launchpad bug 1671509 in nova (Ubuntu) "placement api configuration in apache configure CustomLog incorrectly" [Undecided,New]
14:54:55 jaypipes edleafe, cdent: your reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441544/ would be great. thx in advance!
14:55:07 cdent jaypipes: noted!
14:55:27 coreycb cdent, thanks we'll get that fixed up asap
14:55:36 edleafe jaypipes: queued
14:55:42 jaypipes danke
14:57:31 jaypipes mdbooth: you previously reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399679/. would be great to have a once over from you on that.
14:57:57 mdbooth jaypipes: Sure.
14:58:03 jaypipes cheers
14:58:55 asettle johnthetubaguy: further explanation, package managers test often with automatic setup and that might include updating config files
14:58:57 mdbooth jaypipes: Incidentally, I was looking for validation of this approach for handling RequestContexts for cells: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443627/
14:59:14 mdbooth Or invalidation, obviously, which is why I haven't tried to do the whole job yet.
14:59:25 jaypipes mdbooth: k, queued.
14:59:37 mdbooth jaypipes: Thanks
15:01:30 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Add json style checking for sample notifications https://review.openstack.org/443677
15:03:05 dansmith mdbooth: I skimmed it briefly
15:03:28 dansmith mdbooth: I think we can go with that approach for things for object contexts, where we iterate over multiple cells
15:03:36 dansmith mdbooth: I don't like it for clearly single-cell-targeted operations on an instance or a host
15:04:03 dansmith mdbooth: because after getting all of this to work, I feel confident we'll have some leaks where we don't realize that we've now got two copies of the context
15:04:06 mdbooth dansmith: Ok. So it's worth adding context.for_cell() and fixing up say get_all() and its users?
15:04:12 dansmith mdbooth: the context _is_ gobal and by reference everywhere
15:04:21 dansmith mdbooth: we get it by reference from the request
15:05:31 dansmith mdbooth: maybe, I also would want to see that change on top of a fully working tempest run of the current stack to prove it doesn't break anything else
15:05:59 jaypipes sfinucan: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399653/is going to require the gate to have libvirt 1.2.9
15:06:01 mdbooth dansmith: That was another reason I didn't want to go all the way down this rabbit hole. I expect there are a bunch of tricky cases.
15:06:12 dansmith mdbooth: there are a ton
15:06:31 mdbooth dansmith: However, I was hoping that by removing the whole side-effect of changing the global context there might be significantly less
15:06:41 dansmith mdbooth: I think you might be surprised
15:07:03 sfinucan jaypipes: I thought the point of those tests was to fake out libvirt?
15:07:12 mdbooth dansmith: Ok, I'll limit to get_all() initially and see how it looks.
15:07:14 mdbooth Thanks for looking.
15:07:28 jaypipes sfinucan: see the functional test failure :)
15:07:30 cdent coreycb: I think I've got another one. Is it considered a bug for the service.conf files to have uncommented config settings?
15:08:11 coreycb cdent, not necessarily. some of the packages set defaults.
15:08:24 sfinucan jaypipes: Well that doesn't look right :D
15:08:36 cdent coreycb: in this case it is that os_region_name in the [placement] section is being set
15:08:50 sfinucan Guess we can mock out that version check too
15:08:55 dansmith mdbooth: fwiw, we already had a discussion about whether or not to fork the context in the objects that are tied to cells and decided on this approach to start
15:09:09 dansmith mdbooth: one thing to remember is that if you send an object over rpc, it resets the context on all the objects in the stack
15:09:25 dansmith mdbooth: so if you make a call over to conductor, for anything like boot or resize, contexts get reset anyway
15:09:33 coreycb cdent, that may not need to be set. we set defaults so that the service will can start after the package is installed.
15:10:13 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Temporarily untarget context when deleting from cell0 https://review.openstack.org/443403
15:10:21 cdent coreycb: the reason I noticed was because the docs I was testing changed it, i made all those changs at the top of the section, and then realized it was going to conflict with something that's set further below
15:10:47 cdent coreycb: ah, okay, yeah, that makes sense then
15:10:53 cdent it won't start without that
15:10:57 cdent (there's no default)
15:11:42 mriedem dansmith: ftr, i did give you the business, yes
15:11:44 mriedem :)
15:11:55 dansmith mriedem: yeah, I just totally wasn't paying attention when I wrote that :)
15:11:59 dansmith mriedem: see my rev
15:12:00 dansmith ?
15:13:02 mriedem yes
15:13:08 mriedem wait, what?
15:13:26 mriedem oh i see
15:13:53 dansmith actually, I have to fix target_cell too
15:13:58 mriedem dansmith: you missed on
15:13:59 mriedem *one
15:14:00 dansmith oh no
15:14:01 dansmith it works
15:14:07 mriedem you missed one in the exception block
15:14:09 dansmith ah yeah
15:14:13 dansmith just a sec
15:14:31 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Temporarily untarget context when deleting from cell0 https://review.openstack.org/443403
15:14:48 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Using max api version in notificationt sample test https://review.openstack.org/443686
15:15:32 coreycb cdent, ok. we're considering loosening the restriction of having to start services by default because it can cause issues particularly with deployment tools.
15:15:54 dansmith mriedem: so we should be able to write a functional test for this that checks the quota in each after delete right?
15:15:56 coreycb cdent, but we haven't done that yet. if we did i think we'd just use the default config files.
15:16:20 cdent coreycb: it's a reasonable thing to do for machines being directly used by humans but not so much in this case :)
15:16:40 mriedem dansmith: yes
15:16:55 mriedem that's the plan
15:17:00 coreycb cdent, yeah :)
15:17:00 mriedem the tricky thing is going to be,
15:17:16 mriedem we only need one of these fixes for the backport to ocata
15:17:24 mriedem so the functional test won't pass until the top patch in pike
15:17:29 mriedem but it will work for the bottom patch in ocata
15:17:42 mriedem but re-ordering the changes in master doesn't make sense to me
15:17:49 dansmith okay
15:18:02 mriedem so i'm thinking maybe the functional test is in a separate patch
15:18:03 mriedem not sure
15:18:09 dansmith yeah
15:22:06 mriedem so i think the easy thing i can do first is create a functional regression patch that goes at the bottom of the series and recreates the failure, and asserts the error,
15:22:10 mriedem then the fix patches on top of that,
15:22:31 mriedem and the top fix patch changes the functional test to show it working
15:22:35 mriedem that was my plan anyway
15:22:39 dansmith I was just looking at the tests
15:22:44 dansmith give me a few minutes
15:23:00 dansmith we don't really have a way to query into the reservation stuff to look, AFAICT, but I think I can hack something in at least to check
15:23:09 mriedem well,
15:23:16 mriedem for a functional test i think this is pretty straightforward,
15:23:19 mriedem we have cell1 and cell0,

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