| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-03-09 | |||
| 10:14:57 | bauzas | owalsh is one of our top-notch engineers responsible for integrating Nova features into TripleO | |
| 10:15:04 | johnthetubaguy | I don't see any logs about what is going wrong, I guess | |
| 10:15:21 | bauzas | the problem I have is that I'm blind of the left problems | |
| 10:15:38 | johnthetubaguy | yeah, same | |
| 10:15:44 | asettle | bauzas: awesome :) | |
| 10:15:48 | bauzas | I would love to see what's missing or still having problems so we could discuss on what's wrong | |
| 10:15:51 | johnthetubaguy | there is no info to help debug the issues, apart from go reproduce it I guess | |
| 10:16:06 | johnthetubaguy | and hope you see the same problem | |
| 10:16:09 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: pretty much. I'm still going to reach out to the ML to get some reviews and help outside of the nova team. | |
| 10:16:11 | asettle | What else can I do? | |
| 10:16:24 | johnthetubaguy | if we could get logs from bmoss, that would really help us | |
| 10:16:29 | asettle | Brian has gone to bed, and Amy (spotz) who is the other person experiencing the issue won't be up for a bit (Austin) | |
| 10:16:30 | bauzas | upstream documentation is one thing, deployment procedures for a specific tool is another | |
| 10:16:38 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: let me try and contact him. I know in theory he's awake. | |
| 10:17:02 | johnthetubaguy | OK, I don't want to get him out of bed, just saying we don't really have anything to work on here | |
| 10:17:08 | asettle | bauzas: very much so. andymccr offered to help too as he got it working in OSA. But I'm not too sure how mcuh it would help or not (I mean, I ain't knocking hte offer back) | |
| 10:17:09 | bauzas | so, here, we could try to see what are the discrepancies between upstream docs and how TripleO gates nova | |
| 10:17:11 | asettle | Nah, it's only 8pm there | |
| 10:17:13 | asettle | Uno momenot | |
| 10:17:29 | bauzas | asettle: you're EU based ? | |
| 10:17:35 | asettle | bauzas: yes, London :) | |
| 10:17:37 | bauzas | okay | |
| 10:17:44 | bauzas | owalsh is Irish and I'm French | |
| 10:17:54 | asettle | Excellent :D | |
| 10:17:54 | bauzas | so we can somehow sort that out | |
| 10:17:58 | andymccr | yeah if we compare it to OSA or TripleO we should be able to get it going | |
| 10:18:11 | bauzas | not sure it's excellent to be French, but meh :p | |
| 10:18:19 | johnthetubaguy | well, can compare it to the in tree docs too | |
| 10:18:19 | asettle | I am happy to spin up an instance and start replicating if I can't get bmoss to give me his error logs rn | |
| 10:18:23 | asettle | bauzas: it's pretty great right now :P | |
| 10:19:11 | bauzas | so, the question I have is | |
| 10:19:22 | johnthetubaguy | andymccr: did we get that ordering issue sorted? | |
| 10:19:27 | bauzas | without using a deployment tool, are we able to spin up an instance by following the upstream documentation ? | |
| 10:19:36 | bauzas | and if not, what is the error ? | |
| 10:19:44 | asettle | bauzas: that's basically the problem. No, we cannot. | |
| 10:19:51 | asettle | spotz experienced this, and so did bmoss | |
| 10:20:00 | johnthetubaguy | using the install guide, it doesn't work right now, right? | |
| 10:20:02 | bauzas | asettle: do you have ways to reproduce that so you could throw me the exception ? | |
| 10:20:04 | asettle | I've just text Brian now to see if he can shoot me his logs (I'm sure his wife will be hatin') | |
| 10:20:06 | andymccr | johnthetubaguy: yes sir - we now do a "api_db version" before attempting the sync - if it's 0 --> sync, if it's not --> don't sync just create cell. | |
| 10:20:21 | andymccr | (and sync later) | |
| 10:20:30 | asettle | bauzas: not at the moment, no. Will work on getting you more information. I don't have the instance up, Brian does. Let me get back to you :) | |
| 10:20:47 | asettle | (I hope?) | |
| 10:20:51 | bauzas | Brian is ET-based ? | |
| 10:20:55 | asettle | bauzas: Australia | |
| 10:21:01 | bauzas | meh okay | |
| 10:21:07 | asettle | So, complete opposite timezone. | |
| 10:21:12 | bauzas | not sure we could get him | |
| 10:21:26 | johnthetubaguy | andymccr: I wonder if the docs have that issue, they seem to not do api_db sync | |
| 10:21:37 | asettle | It's after 8pm - not too late. | |
| 10:21:42 | andymccr | johnthetubaguy: hmm maybe | |
| 10:21:53 | andymccr | johnthetubaguy: on a new build you need it first | |
| 10:23:28 | asettle | bauzas: he's awake ;) he's just turning on his computer to send me the logs for you | |
| 10:23:54 | asettle | "I updated the patch (with the comments from mriedem_away) but haven't tested the revision yet. I'll send you my nova logs." | |
| 10:24:00 | asettle | So, hopefully we can see what the original problem was, and move from there. | |
| 10:24:09 | bauzas | \o/ | |
| 10:24:16 | bauzas | I'll have to bail out for a couple of hours | |
| 10:24:34 | bauzas | but I'll be back around 1pm UTC | |
| 10:24:55 | asettle | bauzas: no problem :) thank you for offering ot help. I've sent out to the ML too. Hopefully we can get some people looking at it too. | |
| 10:26:08 | asettle | Sorry andymccr and johnthetubaguy - not ignoring you both :P | |
| 10:26:15 | asettle | Getting the error logs from bmoss rn | |
| 10:28:43 | asettle | Ugh *head desk* | |
| 10:28:48 | asettle | And it was such a nice day too | |
| 10:29:57 | bauzas | alex_xu: around ? | |
| 10:30:20 | bauzas | alex_xu: not understood your point in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440580/3/specs/pike/approved/scheduler-hints-in-server-details.rst@34 | |
| 10:30:52 | johnthetubaguy | asettle: do we tell people to always install the controller first, and then the compute node? | |
| 10:31:47 | bauzas | "controller" is a pure non-nova thing :) | |
| 10:31:50 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: good question, lemme just check historically. | |
| 10:31:53 | asettle | Yes, we do. | |
| 10:32:01 | johnthetubaguy | OK, thats good | |
| 10:32:06 | bauzas | but yeah I remember the old docs, and it's the case | |
| 10:32:18 | asettle | Yep | |
| 10:32:22 | asettle | Controller -> Compute | |
| 10:32:27 | bauzas | asettle: is the problem due to an upgrade or a greenfields install ? | |
| 10:32:36 | asettle | bauzas: greenfields, I believe. | |
| 10:32:50 | bauzas | because instructions are fairly different | |
| 10:32:52 | asettle | We just test the install instructions, we don't test upgrades. | |
| 10:32:53 | bauzas | for cells | |
| 10:33:04 | asettle | bauzas: that documentation for upgrades should belong in the upgrade docs, no? | |
| 10:33:11 | bauzas | asettle: yup | |
| 10:33:20 | asettle | Yes, okay, I'm not going crazy then. | |
| 10:33:31 | bauzas | just wanted to verify that bmoss is following the fresh install procedure, that's it | |
| 10:33:59 | bauzas | because he's pointing to some internal BZ that mentions upgrades and TripleO hence my confusion | |
| 10:34:13 | bauzas | both are totally separate things | |
| 10:34:40 | asettle | bauzas: yes he should be. The whole idea behind doing the install guide testing ist hat you have to do a full manual install (which is also why we don't have people racing to do it) | |
| 10:36:19 | bauzas | yeah, I followed it in 2012 :p | |
| 10:36:32 | bauzas | using .deb packages :blushes: | |
| 10:37:11 | bauzas | glad to see it continuing even if not a lot of people are crazy pants enough to install OpenStack by hand :) | |
| 10:37:26 | bauzas | oh | |
| 10:37:35 | lyarwood | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391597/ - pretty simple ~1k LOC removal change in favor of os-brick code if anyone has time this morning | |
| 10:37:36 | bauzas | asettle: my reply to your email was bounced | |
| 10:37:52 | bauzas | asettle: because openstack-docs@ is moderated | |
| 10:37:57 | asettle | bauzas: by me! | |
| 10:38:00 | asettle | Let me add you in | |
| 10:38:10 | bauzas | strange, why are you moderating it ? | |
| 10:38:14 | johnthetubaguy | oh, did not know there was a docs ML | |
| 10:38:16 | asettle | bauzas: cause i'm the PTL :p | |
| 10:38:31 | bauzas | well, in general, our lists are open | |
| 10:38:32 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: yeah we're weird like that. I dunno why we have it. | |
| 10:38:50 | asettle | Hence why I added the dev list into it, and the docs for others. I don't know the historical reason we have a separate ML | |