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#openstack-nova - 2017-02-03
21:07:06 dhellmann that's my assumption, too, but I don't know for sure. ttx would, but he's offline today due to travel.
21:07:44 cmartin mriedem: I see, so a flight in the afternoon should be fine?
21:07:49 mriedem cmartin: yup
21:07:57 superdan cmartin: you'll be begging to leave by then
21:07:58 cmartin mriedem: thanks that is what I needed to know!
21:08:17 cmartin mriedem: lol we will see, but it will be nice to go back home and sleep in my own bed
21:18:14 EmilienM mriedem: so when I disable wsgi, multinode job is passing :-)
21:18:25 EmilienM mriedem: I'll check baremetal jobs how it goes
21:18:27 mriedem EmilienM: yeah because of the service version thing
21:18:32 EmilienM awesome
21:22:20 cburgess @superdan lol
21:22:41 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: resolved final todos in libvirt conf https://review.openstack.org/429042
21:23:18 superdan cburgess: what?
21:24:00 cburgess superdan It was just funny your statement about begging to leave. I don't know why. Probably years of seeing the look on your face by Friday afternoons.
21:24:23 superdan cburgess: oh, heh, yeah
21:24:44 cburgess superdan I was trying to come up with something witty about Dan wanting to stab people by Friday afternoon but I failed.
21:25:17 cburgess With regard to PTG, are we planning any time of team dinner like we have done in the past?
21:25:46 superdan cburgess: heh
21:26:48 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: deprecate key_manager.fixed _key opt https://review.openstack.org/428992
21:27:22 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: WIP conf: remove invalid TODOs https://review.openstack.org/428811
21:28:15 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate two more nova-net options https://review.openstack.org/412390
21:29:03 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Resolve TODOs in 'database' https://review.openstack.org/393695
21:30:21 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: add min parameter to scheduler opts https://review.openstack.org/428355
21:30:50 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: resolved TODOs in compute configuration https://review.openstack.org/426793
21:30:58 mriedem cburgess: like team dinner from the midcycles?
21:31:04 cburgess Yeah
21:31:15 mriedem hmm, the midcycles are usually somewhere where the host person knows where to go...
21:31:16 cburgess Granted those are semi planned anyways.
21:31:19 mriedem right
21:31:26 melwitt superdan: based on dtp-afk's questions, I'm wondering what the right thing to do for cells v1 is at this point. when they map hosts, how do they pick which cell database to pull them from?
21:31:26 mriedem it's always like last minute
21:31:30 cburgess Yeah
21:31:32 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: mark glance.api_servers opt as required https://review.openstack.org/428241
21:31:46 mriedem cburgess: i'd like to do something like that at least one night...
21:31:47 cburgess There are lots of places options in and around ATL. Lack of transportation might limit us though.
21:31:48 melwitt superdan: assuming we're not having them create one cell per cells v1 cell yet
21:32:03 cburgess mriedem Yeah its been good the times I've been able to go.
21:32:05 mriedem i wonder if there is anywhere downtown near the hotels people are staying at
21:32:09 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: config options: remove libvirt imagecache https://review.openstack.org/378497
21:32:37 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: remove deprecated image url options https://review.openstack.org/397800
21:32:42 mriedem i'll throw it on the etherpad so i don't forget about it
21:32:43 cburgess ATL does have decent subway (MARTA) but it can still be a pain. I can ask around amongst some friends and see if they know of anything (grew up in ATL).
21:33:30 mriedem isn't dhellmann and/or markmcclain in ATL?
21:33:46 mriedem i have to assume they have a backyard...
21:33:47 cburgess markmcclain Is yeah. I'm not sure about dhellmann, but sounds right.
21:33:57 mriedem and southern charm
21:34:02 mriedem / hospitality
21:34:03 cburgess LOL
21:35:41 superdan melwitt: they use their nova-cell.conf file, per cell yeah
21:36:03 superdan melwitt: we bypass the lookups now, but that's what we were doing before and it worked other than that the timing of noticing the replicated statuses was then off
21:36:27 superdan melwitt: is this on the step by step thing?
21:36:28 melwitt superdan: okay, so at this stage we do want to tell them to go ahead and create a cell v2 per cell v1 cell
21:36:41 superdan melwitt: yeah and that's what we do in devstack
21:36:52 superdan otherwise the work to convert later will be messy
21:36:57 melwitt superdan: no but I'm asking to know if I should add it. sounds like I do need to. I had been thinking we were doing just a cheat of a single cell
21:37:14 melwitt yeah. okay
21:37:22 superdan melwitt: you mean from the api cell's database?
21:37:40 superdan there's no reason to do that since they'll all be wrong when they want to go use them
21:37:51 melwitt superdan: I guess so. but that wouldn't make sense because there's no compute hosts in there
21:38:11 melwitt I hadn't thought it through
21:38:17 superdan yeah
21:39:17 melwitt okay, I'll add a new section for cells v1 people, I think that would be most clear
21:39:28 superdan melwitt: okay
21:39:34 melwitt thanks
21:39:48 superdan melwitt: maybe in another patch so we have a better chance of getting this in while we noodle over the cellsv1 stuff?
21:40:18 melwitt superdan: okay, if you think that's best
21:40:32 superdan whatever you want
21:41:17 melwitt I'm not opinionated about it. I hadn't thought of doing a follow up
21:41:39 superdan I'd just like that bit to be in rc2 and I wouldn't want to miss that if we're messing around with cellsv1 stuff that's all
21:41:57 melwitt yeah
21:42:05 superdan the mainline bit I mean
21:42:14 melwitt right
21:46:08 melwitt superdan: I'm trying to think of how the scheduling works with where we're at now. we're not yet pulling compute hosts from all cells or anything for choosing a host ... and cells v1 doesn't care about that since it chooses a cell first. so I guess that's how I had been thinking things could be gotten away with by setting up only one cell for cells v1
21:46:59 melwitt but doing that would be like, arbitrarily picking a cell to convert over and then later you'd have to do the rest, so not a great idea anyway
21:47:02 superdan melwitt: yeah, but I think we're okay because we choose a cell first, then go to a nova-scheduler that only knows about the lower levels
21:47:12 superdan no, I don't think we'll be able to do that unfortunatel
21:47:17 superdan not from v1 to v2 anyway
21:47:21 mriedem hmm, if you have a cell mapping per cell v1 cell, and the scheduler was checking all cell mappings, then it could hit something in another cell v1 cell couldn't it?
21:47:32 superdan no
21:47:35 mriedem if that were the case, i guess we'd just do if CONF.cells.enabled
21:47:36 superdan because scheduler is at the cell level
21:47:52 superdan and there's a cells scheduler that hasn't been touched in ages that knows nothing of this stuff
21:48:10 mriedem "scheduler is at the cell level"
21:48:20 mriedem cells v1? - there are multiple levels, can you clarify?
21:48:23 superdan if cells.enabled is false in the api cell, then it will start rpc'ing to the global schedule
21:48:27 melwitt superdan: don't think we'll be able to what? didn't catch what part you were referring to
21:48:28 mriedem i thought the cells scheduler was at the top level cell in cells v1?
21:48:35 superdan mriedem: yeah, in cellsv1 the scheduler is at the lower levels
21:48:43 superdan mriedem: no there's a special scheduler up there, regular scheduler down below
21:48:50 mriedem right
21:49:03 superdan melwitt: won't be able to have a cell-by-cell conversion from v1 to v2
21:49:18 superdan melwitt: but it'll be more of a "turning stuff off" kind of procedure I think, if we get the mappings in place ahead of time
21:49:50 superdan these are not friday afternoon questions
21:50:01 superdan ask me shit like "is it beer o clock yet" or something
21:50:12 melwitt superdan: heh, sorry. I blame dtp for asking me to think about stuff by asking about cells v1 step-by-step
21:50:18 mriedem scheduler is global in cells v2 world right?
21:50:22 superdan mriedem: yeah
21:50:33 mriedem so computes in multiple cells v2 cells are reporting into placement,
21:50:41 mriedem scheduler asks placement for an RP, gets one, sends that to conductor,
21:50:45 mriedem which is mapped to a cell via hostmappings,

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