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#openstack-nova - 2017-01-24
15:37:41 andreykurilin mriedem: no, please take a rest. you are on vacation
15:37:47 andreykurilin I'll do it
15:38:10 mriedem it's morning and i've got a caffiene headache but ok
15:38:29 mriedem *caffeine
15:38:36 bauzas mriedem: you okay if I'm tagging a 7.1.0 with the help of andreykurilin ?
15:38:50 bauzas once all the fixes are done of course
15:38:55 mriedem bauzas: that's fine
15:39:19 mriedem alex_xu: cdent: artom: gmann: where are we on the device tags thing?
15:39:20 bauzas mriedem: client libraries freeze is thursday as well ?
15:39:27 mriedem bauzas: yes client release freeze is thursday
15:39:34 bauzas ok
15:40:06 cdent mriedem: I don't know, haven't revisited since I lit the fire...
15:40:27 mriedem it's a time that i wish we could just fix the bugs in the api w/o the microversion
15:40:33 artom mriedem, nowhere as far as I can tell - what's the plan? We document before ocata FF and unfuck it in Pike?
15:41:03 artom If so I can submit the documentation patch
15:41:05 mriedem (a) this version works, but (b) x-y don't work, except z, so (c) we'll fix it all in microversion 2.50
15:41:11 artom But I wasn't sure we had consensus on that
15:41:15 robcresswell diana_clarke: Thanks for the response on the horizon discussion, that was useful
15:41:49 mriedem artom: if we're not going to fix it with a microversion in ocata we can document it probably whenever before ocata rc1
15:42:23 artom mriedem, do we have time to squeeze it in in 2 days? I can write the code...
15:42:28 artom (The new microversion I mean)
15:42:52 mriedem artom: we probably don't have the review bandwidth in 2 days
15:43:16 mriedem alternatively we microversion it for a bug fix and it's not tied to FF since it's not a feature, it's a bug fix
15:43:23 diana_clarke robcresswell: np, I know the whole approach is somewhat sub-optimal, but I'm not sure how else we could have proceeded.
15:43:28 mriedem i thought we did that with the vm status microversion in newton
15:43:41 artom mriedem, oh right, I forgot FF != halt all evarything
15:44:33 artom mriedem, if I have your PTLness backing me on this, I can drive it as a microversion bugfix before ocata release
15:44:36 artom ;)
15:44:46 cdent I think bugfix sounds like the right approach
15:44:52 cdent gives some time to do it right
15:44:56 cdent and it _is_ a bugfix
15:45:30 robcresswell diana_clarke: Yeah, understood
15:45:38 mriedem especially this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304510/64/nova/api/openstack/compute/block_device_mapping.py i'd really like to just fix that w/o a microversion,
15:45:49 mriedem but that probably goes against everything we've always said
15:47:06 artom mriedem, I don't think we can. For all intents and purposes, there's no tag in >=2.33. And adding an API parameter is a new microversion...
15:48:05 mriedem yes i know, but 2.33->2.43 or whatever with no bdm tag support, and then it's back in, is just super terrible UX
15:48:11 cdent bauzas: are your placement changes in a good state to review now?
15:48:18 bauzas cdent: it is indeed
15:48:23 cdent on it
15:48:45 bauzas cdent: I need to write a grenade change for fixing the related jobs but that shouldn't be impacting my WIP
15:48:46 artom mriedem, I totally agree on that point... And to be fair, I can't think of any core that would stop working
15:49:03 bauzas cdent: FWIW, there is now only one patch left, I abandoned the fixture one
15:49:10 cdent k
15:49:16 artom Tags were optional, so if you tried to use them in 2.33 it would break, but no one filed a but so no one noticed
15:49:32 artom But if you weren't using them re-adding them as an optional parameter doesn't break anything
15:49:43 artom Hrmm, maybe we *can* just silently re-add them
15:49:53 artom Same logic goes for networks
15:50:33 bauzas dansmith: quick question on grenade, do you think it's a valid approach to just source the placement lib, and call out the appropriate functions, or try to modify local.conf to include placement?
15:50:34 mriedem i doubt anyone noticed because (a) most clouds aren't at newton yet and/or (b) no one is using them, yeah
15:50:47 dansmith bauzas: source and use existing functions
15:50:58 mriedem however,
15:50:59 bauzas dansmith: that would mean local.conf wouldn't be accurate then
15:51:25 mriedem 2.1 and microversions is all about correcting mistakes, and in the old 2.0 API we always said we couldn't fix things regardless of the wart
15:51:29 bauzas dansmith: if that's not a necessary requirement, I'm fine
15:51:33 mriedem unless we used extensions or some garbage like that
15:51:38 dansmith bauzas: oh, thought you meant nova.conf.. I still think that's okay and consistent, FWIW
15:52:13 bauzas dansmith: the fact is that the grenade-upgrade local.conf wouldn't be valid in case the deployer wants to unstack/stack
15:52:20 mriedem andreykurilin: ping me when your requirements change is up to change the minimum back to 6.0 and blacklist 7.0
15:52:27 cdent mriedem: sounds like you should join the thread about api compatbility/stability seeing as you have opinions ;)/2
15:52:45 andreykurilin mridem: it is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424705/
15:53:14 mriedem cdent: well i lean toward the microversion fix
15:53:24 mriedem just because it's the "right thing to do"
15:53:34 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: handle uninited fields in notification payload https://review.openstack.org/415857
15:54:18 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: numa: add numa constraints for emulator threads policy https://review.openstack.org/385023
15:54:21 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: return a CPU overhead if isolate emulator threads requested https://review.openstack.org/385364
15:54:21 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: objects: add new field cpuset_reserved in NUMACell https://review.openstack.org/400874
15:54:22 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: numa: fit instance topology with cpus reserved onto cores https://review.openstack.org/400875
15:54:22 artom mriedem, it *is* more transparent
15:54:23 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: update overhead to take into account vCPUs https://review.openstack.org/385024
15:54:27 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make emulator threads to run on the reserved pCPU https://review.openstack.org/400878
15:54:28 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: numa: take into account cpus reserved https://review.openstack.org/400876
15:54:29 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova: numa: update numa usage incording the cpu reserved https://review.openstack.org/400877
15:54:55 artom Yeah, anyone can dig through the git logs and review history, but putting it in the API version history is more accessible if folks start wondering wtf
15:55:45 lyarwood mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/399735 could use another review if you have time today
15:57:26 mdbooth lyarwood: Yep. It takes me almost 10 minutes to make a moka of coffee, I'll do it then :)
16:02:00 mriedem sfinucan: "While this doesn't cause any issues currently, it is a latent bug that has caused issues downstream." - in other words, it's currently causing issues :)
16:02:34 sfinucan mriedem: You got it :)
16:03:25 sfinucan I meant "this doesn't cause issues with upstream-only code", of course
16:05:00 andreykurilin mriedem: btw, are you ok about putting 7.1.0 to u-c ?
16:05:32 mriedem sfinucan: is it blowing up another out of tree scheduler filter or something?
16:05:40 mriedem sfinucan: or you're just not allowed to talk about it?
16:05:46 mriedem andreykurilin: yes
16:05:52 andreykurilin nice
16:06:57 mriedem sfinucan: dansmith: ok +W
16:07:02 sfinucan mriedem: Aye, we've a downstream only workaround to handle that long running "nova doesn't recalculate CPU topologies on live migration" bug
16:07:05 mriedem thanks for not ramming that in all red hat cores
16:07:43 andreykurilin johnthetubaguy: your comment about transmitting --os-user-id in case of token auth made gates to fail :( it requires more changes in novaclient's code. will recent a fix soon
16:08:45 sfinucan We check for CPU pinning info in the topology and compare it against the free host cores. The pinning info should only exist in a live migrate case, but that bug broke the assumption and broke scheduling :)
16:09:00 sfinucan mriedem: Thanks for the review. I can go sleep now, heh
16:09:01 dansmith yea, it's pretty nasty
16:13:02 mdbooth lyarwood: I've still got a -1 on its parent, right?
16:13:53 mdbooth Or is it direct on master now? Gerrit doesn't make this clear.
16:14:02 mdbooth At a glance, anyway.
16:14:46 lyarwood mdbooth: yeah it really doesn't, it's direct on master now
16:14:54 mdbooth k
16:15:06 lyarwood mdbooth: there's an additional workaround in there so it can be btw
16:15:10 openstackgerrit Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [CLI] Fix token auth type https://review.openstack.org/424256
16:15:37 lyarwood mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399735/18/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py
16:16:11 mdbooth lyarwood: How's your xpath-fu?
16:16:38 lyarwood mdbooth: not great but that's a copy paste from the original

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