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#openstack-nova - 2026-06-03
10:20:10 sean-k-mooney at which point we wont need the privsep hack
10:26:35 sean-k-mooney frickler: so the next issue after you fix the first-boot being interupted is apparently gettign shceulded to a rax xen host where the cirrors image that 11 seconds for the intram to start 19 cectd for /etc/init.d/rc.sysinit: and 58 second to get to the longin prome when we only wait 15 seconds for the system to boot...
10:27:09 sean-k-mooney so i dont think we can fix randaom slow nodes but thats progress at least
10:30:14 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, but if you are running in threaded mode, why pyroute has this issue?
10:30:39 sean-k-mooney im not sure it does have it in threaed mode
10:30:56 sean-k-mooney but we supprot both modes and we only enabeld threadign by defautl this cycle
10:31:21 sean-k-mooney as in its only been that way for like 2 months
10:32:02 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: i have not had time to look at the actual issue in quite a whiel
10:32:15 sean-k-mooney but perhaps there are other approch we coudl take
10:32:23 sean-k-mooney is there a way to repoduce this issue locally?
10:32:39 sean-k-mooney my understanding was it was only seen in ci intermitently
10:34:18 ralonsoh no, that happens always in the CI when bumping pyroute to 0.9.6
10:34:35 ralonsoh I'm not sure exactly in what command
10:36:31 sean-k-mooney oh ok if its reptable can we trigger ti with tempest locally in devstack
10:36:56 sean-k-mooney im askign because if we can i can maybe take a look at it in a vm and see if i cna debug it a bit
12:04:16 opendevreview Joan Gilabert proposed openstack/nova master: WIP : Add mtty support to nova-next https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/922140
12:45:09 opendevreview Ashish Gupta proposed openstack/nova master: tests: file-backed SQLite with WAL in threading mode for Database and CellDatabases Fixtures https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/988583
13:31:29 opendevreview Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/os-vif master: Make ``PyPyroute2._lookup_interface`` private https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/991292
13:32:23 opendevreview Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/os-vif master: Make ``PyRoute2.exists`` privileged in the OVS library https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/991293
13:34:58 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Deserialize JSON properties from volume_image_metadata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991351
13:34:58 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add reproducer for bug #2117544 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991350
13:36:43 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Deserialize JSON properties from volume_image_metadata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991351
13:50:25 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova-specs master: libvirt: AMD SEV-SNP support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/983376
14:40:00 Uggla I guess there is a dependency resolution issue with grenade and stable/2025.1 https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/23ff7cd6c0e649a9b83bb7df6f9dfc7b
14:40:19 Uggla elodilles are you aware of ^
14:50:20 elodilles Uggla: yes, rpds-py does not support python 3.10 anymore. on QA channel it was discussed the other day and the plan is to release tempest and pin it for jobs that still uses Ubuntu Jammy 22.04 that has python3.10 by default
14:52:05 Uggla elodilles thx, so I will wait the fix.
14:56:44 elodilles +1
14:59:52 gmaan elodilles: Uggla which job failing, I can fix that as i sent in email
15:00:50 Uggla gmaan it is nova-grenade-multinode
15:01:50 Uggla gmaan you can see it from here : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/988154
15:02:27 elodilles gmaan: i can update this patch with your fix to unblock the gate https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/989579
15:02:30 elodilles o:)
15:02:59 Uggla Reminder upstream bug triage in ~30mn
15:03:15 gmaan elodilles: Uggla ohk grenade on 2025.1 which i suggest to remove it :) but if you are fixing it is ok
15:03:31 elodilles Uggla: sorry, i didn't have enought time for bug triaging this time, so i'll just listen in today :S
15:04:01 elodilles gmaan: yes, yes, that we agreed to remove o:)
15:05:30 elodilles gmaan: my fix was about to land when the upper-constraints were bumped and struck again on the grenade o:)
15:06:20 Uggla elodilles, no worries, tbh I do not expect much this week on the triage due to review activities.
15:28:38 Uggla Upstream bug triage: https://meet.google.com/zjr-rxus-hzj
16:11:06 sean-k-mooney that in 20 minutes right?
16:11:39 sean-k-mooney oh no it was na hour ago
16:12:31 sean-k-mooney is it 15:30 UTC ?
16:23:34 melwitt sean-k-mooney: yes 15:30 UTC
17:28:08 gmaan elodilles: commented on grenade job fix,. you still needs to pin the tempest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/989579
17:28:28 gmaan tempest change to support that is merged so no depends-on needed anymore
17:44:30 opendevreview Ghanshyam Maan proposed openstack/nova stable/2025.1: [CI][stable-only] nova-grenade-multinode fix https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/989579
18:04:47 sean-k-mooney so while debuging with the new cirror image i noteice something intersting
18:04:56 sean-k-mooney https://tinyurl.com/2k63h77v
18:05:29 sean-k-mooney while it does not alwasy cause a failure https://paste.opendev.org/show/b5V9zieRqmJVFjyb5uz9/
18:06:04 sean-k-mooney nova is trigging that traceback like 50 times a day
18:06:31 sean-k-mooney or rather the volume_snapshot_delete assisted volume snapshto test
18:06:42 sean-k-mooney is triging that often
18:07:50 sean-k-mooney if i remove t he filter on nova that tirggerd 2341 times in the last 10 days
18:08:21 sean-k-mooney that with lvm or cephs as the backend
18:09:30 sean-k-mooney it looks like if hte snapshot is not foudn we explosde bcuase we dont have the type info info
18:14:06 melwitt that is a very old issue
18:14:42 sean-k-mooney it felt familar
18:14:58 sean-k-mooney i dont see a bug report for it quickly so im going to file one
18:15:05 melwitt yeah I'm looking for it, sec
18:15:17 melwitt ok that works too
18:15:44 sean-k-mooney https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2155187
18:16:54 sean-k-mooney i kind fo hate "standard tracebacks" in logs
18:17:15 sean-k-mooney that partly why i try to pretnt os-brick is not a thing
18:17:35 dansmith agree, tracebacks in logs for normal occurrences is extremely uncool
18:17:49 dansmith we had an effort like ten years ago to get rid of them all
18:17:56 dansmith but as you say, brick is like a traceback generator :)
18:18:04 melwitt yeah. I know there was a fix proposed for this exact problem and I can't remember why it stalled out. and I can't even find it right now
18:18:30 sean-k-mooney we have drefinlly fixed other case wehre we asuem a key was alswasy present
18:18:50 sean-k-mooney i dont recall if it was this exact one but we have had that class of issue with the cinder path a few times
18:19:12 sean-k-mooney what i find intersting about this is we seam to mostly handel this internally
18:19:44 sean-k-mooney as in its a key error but of the 2200 or so hits only like 180 of those failed
18:20:05 melwitt it was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2033541 and this https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/900783
18:20:07 sean-k-mooney so at least in the volume delete path this is just ugly in the logs
18:20:32 sean-k-mooney ah cool i can close it as a dupe then
18:20:45 melwitt (that was what I was thinking of)
18:20:51 melwitt is the one you saw with ceph also?
18:21:23 sean-k-mooney yep
18:21:26 melwitt I swear google is working less and less. launchpad search found me that when google couldn't
18:22:06 melwitt you might consider closing the older one as a dupe, it clearly is not getting searched easily haha
18:22:14 sean-k-mooney https://tinyurl.com/2k63h77v
18:22:37 sean-k-mooney so that the case where the trace happend but the job passes
18:22:58 sean-k-mooney but if you weiden that out
18:23:17 melwitt yeah. it absolutely happens all the time. and there was/is a patch proposed but it got stalled out for reasons i don't remember and I think that discouraged everything
18:23:18 sean-k-mooney its present in cidner cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest devstack-plugin-nfs-tempest-full
18:23:25 sean-k-mooney and cinder-tempest-lvm-multibackend
18:23:27 sean-k-mooney job
18:23:44 sean-k-mooney so it seam to be backend indepenent
18:23:54 sean-k-mooney if for any reason the snapshot is not found
18:23:56 sean-k-mooney it will explode
18:24:00 melwitt yeah it is the arbitrary dict thing which really sucks
18:24:16 sean-k-mooney well in my case there was a 404
18:24:17 melwitt some backends use X keys some use Y keys and it's a wild west
18:24:36 sean-k-mooney i..e the snapshot was not found in cinder durign the delet test
18:24:47 melwitt there's no standard for that payload, last I checked
18:24:48 sean-k-mooney and then we didn have the info a as a reult
18:25:06 sean-k-mooney melwitt: ya i have noticed that too
18:25:21 sean-k-mooney i.e. tht the payload is very backend secific
18:25:31 melwitt I remember digging into it a bit and getting really discouraged
18:25:47 melwitt yeah. and I think they are not documented either. so I'm not sure what the first step in the right direction is even

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