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#openstack-nova - 2024-02-15
18:47:56 sean-k-mooney so removign instances form the dict that are not on this host and dont have a migration assocated with the host would be ok i think
#openstack-nova - 2024-02-16
06:31:02 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/os-traits master: Add traits for TPM models https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/909107
06:31:32 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Detect vtpm support by libvirt https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/908508
06:51:59 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Report available TPM models https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909183
06:55:22 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Report available TPM models https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909183
07:42:18 opendevreview Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova master: Add support for showing requested az in output https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/904568
08:47:54 opendevreview Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova master: Add support for showing requested az in output https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/904568
09:10:35 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop unused parameter type validation method https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909189
09:35:40 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute older than Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909190
09:40:29 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909190
09:46:42 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909190
09:53:32 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909190
09:53:33 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909192
10:17:25 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909192
14:16:08 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909192
14:33:32 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
14:37:26 opendevreview Artem Vasilyev proposed openstack/nova stable/zed: libvirt: stop enabling hyperv feature reenlightenment https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909098
14:41:54 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
14:51:04 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
14:51:05 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
14:57:57 stephenfin melwitt, bauzas: Mind hitting this small doc fixup? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/903675/1/doc/source/user/security-groups.rst
15:05:17 bauzas dansmith: sean-k-mooney: you'll see a new revision for my patches without the periodic, but I'll add it on Monday
15:05:30 dansmith ack
15:06:08 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Reserve mdevs to return to the source https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/904209
15:06:09 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Modify the mdevs in the migrate XML https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/904258
15:18:32 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop logic for compute service version < 33 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909218
15:19:28 mnaser small ping again for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909082 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909086 (i need to work these back to zed so appreciate if we can get em in earlier :D)
15:21:07 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop unnecessary mocking of get_minimum_version_all_cells https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909219
15:23:47 mnaser thank you stephenfin ! :)
15:23:53 greatgatsby_ Hello. We've hit a bit of a snag and are trying to figure out how to work around it. After upgrading the kernel on some of our computes, they no longer have the xsaves kernel feature, which is preventing us from migrating VMs to the upgraded computes. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
15:24:12 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
15:24:13 mnaser greatgatsby_: ah if i can tell you how many times we've been bit by this exact one.
15:24:28 mnaser i assume you are running ubuntu right
15:25:24 greatgatsby_ hahaha, at least we're not alone! We contemplating some crazy cups and ball game, but it's getting scary. Yes, upgrading from ubuntu 20.04 default kernel.
15:25:48 mnaser greatgatsby_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1903822
15:26:19 mnaser there is a long outstanding patch here - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/762330
15:26:29 mnaser maybe you can try that in your env that might be fix it for you
15:27:00 greatgatsby_ thanks a lot for the help, reading now
15:28:20 mnaser we've found biting the bullet with a cold migration is what we've ended up doing in those scenarios
15:28:39 greatgatsby_ that's an option we're considering too, unfortunately
15:28:49 greatgatsby_ thanks again for the help
15:29:07 mnaser np, good luck o7
15:59:12 bauzas mnaser: sorry, was afk :)
15:59:21 mnaser no woooorries :)
15:59:27 bauzas mnaser : fwiw, if you need to ask for a bugfix, you can use our etherpad :
15:59:37 bauzas https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-caracal-status#L174
15:59:51 bauzas then, I'll accept it :)
16:00:12 mnaser oh cool, didnt know about this etherpad
16:01:48 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
16:10:54 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
16:12:17 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
16:15:18 bauzas accepted :)
16:15:47 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909190
16:15:48 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
16:15:48 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909192
16:15:49 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
16:21:28 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909192
16:21:29 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
16:21:29 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
16:24:05 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
16:24:58 dansmith um
16:25:21 dansmith I see no reason to drop service version checks.. am I alone?
16:41:43 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909202
16:41:44 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909204
16:41:45 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
16:42:54 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop logic for compute service version < 33 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909218
16:48:27 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
16:58:49 artom That +/- line count is mighty alluring, but I do understand the robustness concern.
17:00:42 dansmith artom: we could drop a lot of checks and meet that requirement :)
17:00:59 dansmith artom: we're also talking about downstream effects of one of these checks specifically right now...
17:01:32 artom dansmith, yeah, I think you and I are on the same page about this
17:01:59 artom I understand the sentiment, but am concerned about the side effects
17:08:43 tkajinam we may keep some of these, but some checks even call neutron to get port details for no use
17:09:33 dansmith tkajinam: that's fine, those are expensive.. separating those from the service version checks would be much better IMHO
17:10:00 tkajinam If we prefer not removing these then I'm fine. then I'll remove all TODO comments because these shouldn't be done
17:11:44 artom I mean I think there's a balance that something like Victoria is _probably_ fine
17:12:07 artom But the more recent we go, the more it's a case of "well, it _might_ be happening somewhere"
17:12:53 tkajinam I have a few topis I need to bring to PTG so will add this topic there, too, to discuss the strategy.
17:13:16 tkajinam yeah. I understand that point and that's why I'm making per-release change instead of removing these by a single shot
17:14:00 artom Though most of our customer are still running a train-based release, so perhaps even Victoria should be off limits
17:14:18 artom I think the upstream operator survey mostly aligns with that, too
17:14:58 dansmith yeah, and people are also still skipping lots of releases on each upgrade, which makes keeping the older checks in the newer code more relevant than they may seem
17:16:38 tkajinam I agree with that stetement though I'm not too sure skipping releases during upgrade immediately means mixing versions with huge gap really during operation
17:17:12 tkajinam anyway I think we can discuss details during PTG. I'm almost done about the series of patches so these may show the amount of codes we may drop if we do cleanup completely.
17:17:56 dansmith tkajinam: it does if you miss some computes during the upgrade, which we hear about regularly
17:18:11 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.1: libvirt: Stop unconditionally enabling evmcs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909228
17:19:00 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.1: libvirt: stop enabling hyperv feature reenlightenment https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909229
17:21:02 tkajinam yeah but even in that case I'm unsure why they can't complete upgrade before getting it back to the cluster.
17:21:19 tkajinam ... with keeping all my experience tripleo thrown away
17:30:13 dansmith they can, of course, but the point of these checks is so that nova notices these sorts of things
17:34:24 tkajinam nova already has version check and reject starting services in case services with too old versions exist. That'd be the first guard. operators can disable the check but they should aware of the risk of doing it, unless they expect nova should take care of any versions, or we should remove that check if that does not meet the real requirement.
17:34:50 tkajinam (I don't intend to get conclusion here. just dumping some of my thoughts which I may bring during PTG.
17:35:33 tkajinam s/unless they expect/without expecting that/
17:37:17 dansmith are you talking about the check that a service doesn't regress the current minimum? that only helps if you restart the old services, which doesn't happen by definition if your upgrade tool skips them
17:37:52 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup logics to detect nova-compute <= Zed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/909220
17:41:34 tkajinam I was talking about the service version check at startup (based on https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/service.py#L256 ). I agree it may not work for case where old services may be kept running during upgrade
17:42:02 tkajinam though it blocks the case that a user attempts to get old node joining back to the cluster.
17:46:45 dansmith Yep, that's the thing we had to add the knob to disable because it gets in the way of large upgrades, so it's not uncommon to see that turned off :)
17:47:03 dansmith we added it as a hard fail and immediately had to backport the knob because it was too strict for lots of real-world situations
18:33:12 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: docs: Further tweaks to the CPU models document https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/784066

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