| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-10-20 | |||
| 15:01:49 | bauzas | I guess my devstack shell was just in transient state, because when I sshed it with another window, I got the PATH right | |
| 15:57:03 | dougszu | Any hints on debugging libvirt /qemu live migrate failures? I have one where even with debug logs, there is no obvious failure. | |
| 21:45:01 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Revert "Add upgrade check for compute-object-ids linkage" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898741 | |
| 23:04:19 | opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.2: Revert "Add upgrade check for compute-object-ids linkage" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898953 | |
| 23:13:07 | opendevreview | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.1: Fix exception catch when volume mount fails https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898954 | |
| #openstack-nova - 2023-10-21 | |||
| 01:58:20 | opendevreview | efineshi proposed openstack/nova master: Don't allow to evacuate when it is in evacuate state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898200 | |
| 02:01:27 | opendevreview | efineshi proposed openstack/nova master: Don't allow to evacuate when it is in evacuate state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898200 | |
| #openstack-nova - 2023-10-23 | |||
| 02:24:57 | hamburgler | example, to pass the nova availability zone to cinder when it's creating the volume? when using a volume as the boot device, nova does not seem to pass the az name to cinder. Yes I can create a volume in the az off an image, and follow up by attaching it to a new server, but this is an additional step, and seems like broken or missing functionality? each az for example has it's own ceph backend and works fine, and | |
| 02:24:57 | hamburgler | Heyo :), was wondering is there a way when creating an instance - such as with 'openstack server create --flavor 04eefe73-e27c-4981-9d28-171dac2a8c34 --availability-zone az2 --block-device source_type=image,uuid=d739b3eb-29cb-445f-97e3-7df07fd2555b,destination_type=volume,volume_size=20,volume_type=premium,delete_on_termination=false,boot_index=0 --network=7ee05a21-629f-490e-bdaf-fa64e291012b vm_in_az2' for | |
| 02:24:58 | hamburgler | works with ephemeral provisioning which points to each respective ceph cluster, but when it comes to volumes with server create it always defaults to the default availability zone. Do not want to use cross az attachment. TIA :) | |
| 07:31:07 | bauzas | hamburgler: do you know the existence of https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#cinder.cross_az_attach ? | |
| 07:31:18 | bauzas | by default, the value is True, so we don't verify the Cinder ZE | |
| 07:31:21 | bauzas | AZ* | |
| 10:03:32 | bauzas | eeek, someone emptied the whole ptg etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-caracal-ptg | |
| 10:08:11 | johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I was just going to ask about that, I found this looks better, but I forget how you restore it: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-caracal-ptg/timeslider#13560 | |
| 10:08:30 | bauzas | we need an infra admin in order to do it | |
| 10:08:39 | johnthetubaguy | ah, OK | |
| 10:08:50 | bauzas | I just asked in the -infra chan | |
| 10:10:23 | bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I could copy/paste but I think we'll loose the colors | |
| 10:10:36 | johnthetubaguy | yeah, I was thinking the same | |
| 10:11:24 | bauzas | I gonna send an email | |
| 10:11:43 | bauzas | every single cycle, our etherpad got trashed | |
| 10:11:48 | bauzas | I'm just done with that | |
| 10:12:02 | bauzas | this time, this is the first time it's trashed *before* | |
| 11:27:13 | gibi | bauzas: maybe somebody hates nova :) | |
| 11:34:00 | bauzas | gibi: well if someone hates nova, I'm happy to discuss with them to know why | |
| 11:48:32 | gibi | sure, but they are passive agressives :D | |
| 11:49:36 | bauzas | emptying an etherpad isn't really a passive argument | |
| 11:51:05 | bauzas | "I passively did cut all my neighbor' trees because they're too close to my fence' | |
| 12:10:11 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: fyi, stephenfin is on pto today, fortunetly our ptg session start tomorrow but they likely wont be at the ptg for all our sessions | |
| 12:10:40 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: ill check with him tomorrow and we can figoure out what session they want to attened/when they are free | |
| 12:14:53 | bauzas | ok | |
| 12:23:38 | sean-k-mooney | i orginaly tought we were starting today so i was going to suggest moving there topic later in the week but they will be back this enveing so its not an issue | |
| 12:24:20 | bauzas | sean-k-mooneysee my email about the proposed schedule for this week, I also added some worth discussions to know | |
| 12:25:08 | sean-k-mooney | can you add those times to the etherpad? | |
| 12:25:35 | sean-k-mooney | i skimmed that eairler but i really dont like doing schduling over the mailing list | |
| 12:25:56 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: my email's schedule is just a copy/paste from the itself etherpad :) | |
| 12:26:10 | bauzas | so you'll those in that lieu | |
| 12:26:35 | sean-k-mooney | you dont have any of the times in the etherpad | |
| 12:26:38 | sean-k-mooney | im looking at it now | |
| 12:26:53 | bauzas | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-caracal-ptg#L40 | |
| 12:27:04 | bauzas | I don't wanna do like cinder and hardcut times | |
| 12:27:08 | bauzas | for every single topic | |
| 12:27:18 | sean-k-mooney | on they are at the topic not on the topics | |
| 12:27:19 | bauzas | I'm just giving a strawman proposal for the time we need | |
| 12:27:36 | sean-k-mooney | honelyst i would not look there for times | |
| 12:27:46 | bauzas | that's something we do since Yoga | |
| 12:27:52 | sean-k-mooney | but ok i guess. | |
| 12:27:53 | bauzas | even before IIRC | |
| 12:28:06 | bauzas | we purge the list like we want | |
| 12:28:10 | bauzas | and how long we need | |
| 12:28:11 | sean-k-mooney | we used to also put times later on and rearrge the topics | |
| 12:28:24 | bauzas | but I'm providing some kind of high-level view for people wondering | |
| 12:28:44 | bauzas | and then, courtesy list is there for convenience | |
| 12:30:06 | sean-k-mooney | by th eway when you type Nova (Placement) sessions | |
| 12:30:15 | sean-k-mooney | i assume this is just talking about placement | |
| 12:30:24 | sean-k-mooney | or nova placement interaction | |
| 12:31:00 | bauzas | fixed | |
| 12:31:02 | bauzas | good spot | |
| 12:31:04 | sean-k-mooney | thanks | |
| 12:31:53 | bauzas | I thought I had the day for doing other things but no | |
| 12:32:05 | bauzas | my whole afternoon is packed with sessions | |
| 12:36:34 | sean-k-mooney | other then the ci comunity sesssion im not sure if ill attende anything today. i would normally sit in the kolla room but i dont really have much interafction with kolla anymore | |
| 12:37:32 | sean-k-mooney | i might join the rbac session too but again i dont really hav emuch to add there im more intersted in how far we are to the secure rbac goal | |
| 12:38:03 | sean-k-mooney | on the nova side we still have some work on the service user i think although the cve acceleartated that a bit | |
| 12:38:04 | bauzas | I'll just attend to act more as a liaison | |
| 12:38:23 | bauzas | yep, gmann had a series on it | |
| 12:38:57 | sean-k-mooney | idealy by now it shoudl be possibel to do everythign other services need to do on nova's api vai the service user | |
| 12:39:01 | bauzas | but anyway, that's a good session for me to remember where we are and where we go | |
| 12:39:02 | sean-k-mooney | but im not sure we are there yet | |
| 12:39:22 | sean-k-mooney | based on the orginal timeline also we should be looking at the manager role which we have not started on | |
| 12:39:35 | bauzas | for board session about AI generated content, I'll just attend because I'm asked to | |
| 12:39:56 | sean-k-mooney | when is that | |
| 12:39:59 | bauzas | but honestly I don't think this is a sortable problem by both the time we have and the people who're in | |
| 12:40:45 | bauzas | if this is just saying "dude, you shall add a git commit tag that'd say you were lazy enough to use an AI bot", then I doubt that people will opt into it :) | |
| 12:41:21 | bauzas | and if this is about making sure we don't hit copyrights on materials, that's not something I can solve | |
| 12:41:31 | bauzas | this is more a licensing problem than a gerrit problem | |
| 12:41:57 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop remaining deprecated upgrade_levels option for nova-cert https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898613 | |
| 12:42:01 | bauzas | so I guess the whole hour will just be about defining the scope of that discussion :) | |
| 12:42:03 | sean-k-mooney | ai generated content is not copyrightable at least under us law | |
| 12:42:36 | sean-k-mooney | more boadly it was establised as a leagl precidnet a few years ago that copyright can only be created for works crated by a human | |
| 12:42:42 | bauzas | yeah I know and that's why I think this is not something solvable on our level | |
| 12:42:58 | sean-k-mooney | that was esablised after a chim too a selfie with a photograper camra | |
| 12:43:18 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: the problem is more about AI generated content that infrigues copyrights due to its training model | |
| 12:43:53 | bauzas | but again, not something TC can solve or even the board IMHO | |
| 12:43:56 | sean-k-mooney | well they person who submits the patch is atesting that they have the rights to the code that is submited | |
| 12:44:35 | sean-k-mooney | so in practic today that falls on the commiter to ensure they commit they authered with or without assicance is compient with the liscenes ectra | |
| 12:44:45 | bauzas | sure, I guess the board session will be about identifying threats | |
| 12:44:59 | sean-k-mooney | to be clear this would also apply to any non api generated content form variios tools | |
| 12:45:28 | bauzas | yeah I had the color word in my mind | |
| 12:45:56 | bauzas | any assistance to writing some code implies that it doesn't infrigue the copyright | |
| 13:25:36 | artom | https://ptg2023.openinfra.dev/a/ is completely broken for me | |
| 13:26:28 | artom | https://imgur.com/a/52vtguD | |
| 13:26:45 | bauzas | artom: you shouldn't be looking at this website | |
| 13:27:06 | artom | There are many things I shouldn't be doing ;) | |
| 13:27:15 | bauzas | https://ptg.opendev.org/ptg.html is the source | |
| 13:28:03 | artom | Thanks - annoying that that link is completely undiscoverable | |
| 13:28:15 | artom | So Nova "proper" doesn't start until tomorrow, then | |
| 13:43:46 | gibi | artom: yepp | |
| 13:44:09 | gibi | today is rbac, tc, board, and similar discussions are expected | |