| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-08-31 | |||
| 14:16:39 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: deprecating does not force them to migrate | |
| 14:16:40 | JayF | I tested it with my lessee patch which also raised the microversion | |
| 14:16:43 | JayF | sean-k-mooney: that's a good point | |
| 14:16:48 | bauzas | JayF: ahah ! | |
| 14:16:57 | JayF | bauzas: I am planning on dedicating a day or two during RC to testing this, migrating nodes around, etc | |
| 14:17:00 | sean-k-mooney | we will have the option until the 2024.2 release at a minium | |
| 14:17:06 | JayF | bauzas: just always forget how hectic this week in with my Ironic hat on :) | |
| 14:17:20 | JayF | s/in/is/ | |
| 14:17:22 | dansmith | oh I just +Wd it.. | |
| 14:17:25 | bauzas | JayF: I don't see at all what you mean :p | |
| 14:17:31 | dansmith | I thought it was critical to get the deprecation into place this cycle, | |
| 14:17:37 | dansmith | I haven't looked at the patches above | |
| 14:17:58 | bauzas | the two next ones are quite easy to review | |
| 14:18:08 | sean-k-mooney | well i would like to do it this cycle but with new skip level porcess it actully has less of an impact | |
| 14:18:08 | bauzas | the last one (the reshuffle) is the hardest | |
| 14:19:00 | johnthetubaguy | dansmith: FWIWI, that was my take too, tell people its broken, do active-passive if you can, keep using the old way if you must. | |
| 14:19:09 | dansmith | yeah | |
| 14:19:18 | bauzas | I thought we agreed on that even in the spec | |
| 14:19:37 | johnthetubaguy | (It might have just been in PTG chat we said that) | |
| 14:19:45 | bauzas | yeah | |
| 14:19:52 | sean-k-mooney | that why i was onderign why it had 2 +2s and no +w and why i ask | |
| 14:20:15 | sean-k-mooney | anyway im going to review the next two patches now before my next meeting | |
| 14:20:16 | JayF | Probably because of my request, but you all are right that a deprecation won't force operator action immediately. | |
| 14:20:16 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: I just forgot to hit the +W | |
| 14:20:31 | opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: Delete dangling bdms https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882284 | |
| 14:20:42 | johnthetubaguy | JayF: we can always tweak the wording in the release note if we don't land the second half this cycle | |
| 14:20:44 | sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: JayF everythign is in place for the shards on the ironic side yes? | |
| 14:21:09 | JayF | sean-k-mooney: very yes :) We released it last cycle, specifically ahead of any of the nova work :D | |
| 14:21:11 | sean-k-mooney | im assuming so since these do not have depends on | |
| 14:21:16 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 14:21:18 | johnthetubaguy | I think so, the API has been shipped. | |
| 14:21:52 | JayF | johnthetubaguy: if you wanted to test this yourself in devstack; I recently updated our doc here to have a plug+play devstack config (our old doc had bitrotted) https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/contributor/devstack-guide.html#ironic-with-nova this is the config I'll start from when I play with it in RC | |
| 14:22:10 | auniyal | bauzas, it was not failing by default - missed one test :-( | |
| 14:22:15 | auniyal | its done now | |
| 14:22:35 | johnthetubaguy | JayF: I was trying to get a minion to do that, but I failed, that looks handy though :) | |
| 14:22:53 | JayF | johnthetubaguy: well, my goal was to make that doc minion-friendly ;) | |
| 14:23:30 | sean-k-mooney | JayF this is goinng to create 3 ironic vms on the host this is run on right | |
| 14:23:48 | JayF | sean-k-mooney: yes, fronted by virtualbmc in this case (because it's ipmi) | |
| 14:24:05 | sean-k-mooney | i know there was test automation in ci to do that | |
| 14:24:12 | sean-k-mooney | i was not aware devstack could actully do that | |
| 14:24:21 | JayF | It's all in the devstack Ironic plugin | |
| 14:24:30 | sean-k-mooney | ya that makes sense | |
| 14:24:42 | ozzzo_work | What's the best way to determine whether a VM is locked? | |
| 14:24:58 | sean-k-mooney | ozzzo_work: you can tell in the api with a server show | |
| 14:26:35 | ozzzo_work | I'm on Train. Was that added in a later version? | |
| 14:27:17 | sean-k-mooney | i dont think so but i dont think it is shown in openstack client by default | |
| 14:27:29 | ozzzo_work | I'm comparing "server show" output from locked and unlocked VMs, and I can't find a difference | |
| 14:27:49 | sean-k-mooney | is there a --long option for that command | |
| 14:28:06 | ozzzo_work | no | |
| 14:28:34 | ozzzo_work | aha I can see it with "nova show" | |
| 14:28:59 | johnthetubaguy | Maybe also try update to the very latest openstack CLI and SDK so it uses the latest microversion by default, it was added in 2.9 apparently: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/api-microversion-history.html#id8 | |
| 14:29:52 | sean-k-mooney | you can do "openstack sever list --locked" | |
| 14:30:08 | sean-k-mooney | https://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/latest/cli/command-objects/server.html#cmdoption-openstack-server-list-locked | |
| 14:42:11 | ozzzo_work | ah very nice, ty! | |
| 15:40:59 | opendevreview | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/nova master: Replace -- as 3-4 char in hostname with - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/893072 | |
| 16:20:04 | alaysd | Hey everyone | |
| 16:38:07 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: fyi i put a -2 on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/893072 for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2033401 | |
| 16:38:43 | sean-k-mooney | this is an api change so it would need a spec but in general im not sure we want to do any mroe vlaidation fo hostname with all the pain we had last time | |
| 16:38:53 | bauzas | NOOOOOOOOO | |
| 16:39:33 | bauzas | (not no because of your -2 but because of the rathole we entered when we went with supporting FQDNs | |
| 16:40:10 | sean-k-mooney | right so if we add even more santaisation to ensure we comply with https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5891#section-4.2.3.1 | |
| 16:40:26 | bauzas | my personal take : fix it with docs | |
| 16:40:28 | sean-k-mooney | it will break someone who does not care about it | |
| 16:40:51 | sean-k-mooney | im not enven sure it needs to be in our docs but we could jus tadd a note | |
| 16:41:04 | bauzas | change as much as you want on clients (incl SDK and OSC), API-ref and the likes, but please please please, never ever touch this again | |
| 16:41:18 | sean-k-mooney | but basically i think we shoudl leave this up to the user to do | |
| 16:41:40 | bauzas | we have api-reference | |
| 16:41:49 | bauzas | and I know 1% of our users read it | |
| 16:42:16 | bauzas | but that's the place where we can put 'doh, we don't support rfc5891' | |
| 16:42:23 | sean-k-mooney | ya a note in api-ref would be ok but it woudl basically say. if you do not follwo the relvente RFCs for hostname formats thigns might break | |
| 16:42:37 | sean-k-mooney | its not that we dont suport it | |
| 16:42:39 | bauzas | true, nova is just passing thru the hostname | |
| 16:42:49 | bauzas | so you're due to respect this | |
| 16:42:51 | sean-k-mooney | its that we dont auto manage names that are invlaid to make it pass | |
| 16:43:12 | opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: Allow swap resize from non-zero to zero https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/857339 | |
| 16:51:40 | bauzas | cores, there are two series that still require love from you in order to be accepted in time for the FF : https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:ironic-shards+project:openstack/nova+is:open and https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bp%252Funified-limits-nova-tool-and-docs | |
| 16:51:58 | bauzas | both have all their changes at least having a single +2 | |
| 17:19:38 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: this is already approved but we shoudld track this for rc1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883344 | |
| 17:19:42 | opendevreview | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage ironic-compute-node-move https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/886989 | |
| 17:20:00 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: I'll start creating an etherpad | |
| 17:21:01 | sean-k-mooney | its running in zuul now so we can just keep an eye on it but i tought this was already merged | |
| 17:21:16 | opendevreview | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Make compute node rebalance safter https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887151 | |
| 17:22:26 | johnthetubaguy | melwitt: bauzas sorry, my rebase broke the functional tests without me noticing, I fixed that up now. | |
| 17:22:43 | bauzas | johnthetubaguy: already sent back to the gate | |
| 17:23:01 | johnthetubaguy | thank you. | |
| 17:23:52 | melwitt | dual wielding | |
| 17:23:55 | sean-k-mooney | so given how close this is if it does not merge today i would be open to an FFE for the ironic shard stuff | |
| 17:25:05 | bauzas | we don't need to define a RFE process | |
| 17:25:36 | bauzas | the ironic shard one can be late approved IMHO, one core is already giving his go, and two patches of 4 are already +W | |
| 17:25:52 | bauzas | eventually, the change surface is quite restricted to the ironic driver | |
| 17:26:14 | sean-k-mooney | well more just indrectly noting that today is thehnicall feature freeze | |
| 17:26:35 | sean-k-mooney | but as you note it had +2 across the borad | |
| 17:26:36 | bauzas | so, provided JayF or other ironic folks can hardly stress-test this thing and can provide bugfixes those 2 weeks, I'm good | |
| 17:26:49 | melwitt | this patch has only one +2 but was +W'ed, was that intentional? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887151 | |
| 17:26:51 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: I'm very well aware of today's FF :) | |
| 17:27:07 | johnthetubaguy | in perfect timing, I am going to the beach tomorrow... (obvs to celebrate feature freeze with an ice cream) | |
| 17:27:22 | bauzas | melwitt: doh, my fault ! | |
| 17:27:28 | sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: nice | |
| 17:27:35 | sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: enjoy it | |
| 17:27:49 | sean-k-mooney | im also not planning to be here at this time tomrorrow evening | |