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#openstack-nova - 2023-06-27
16:46:48 sean-k-mooney yep so after some other discussion i woudl just prefer you retrined the number of instance * -1.0
16:46:54 sean-k-mooney and default to 1.0
16:47:11 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yeah and I understand your concern but my point is that I don't want to have a max-instances value that would be the same for all hosts
16:47:14 sean-k-mooney that is a prefernce not a blocker
16:47:34 sean-k-mooney yep which is why i provided two suggestion orginally
16:47:52 gibi hm, how the -1 relates to the max-instance?
16:48:05 sean-k-mooney it does not
16:48:11 sean-k-mooney i provided 2 suggestsions
16:48:22 sean-k-mooney return max_instace- current
16:48:32 sean-k-mooney or return current * -1.0
16:48:32 bauzas sean-k-mooney: okay, so you would be okay if _weigh_object() would just do -1 * host_state.num_instances ?
16:48:42 sean-k-mooney yep
16:48:50 sean-k-mooney tottaly fine with that
16:48:52 gibi The -1.0 one works for me. I would not complicate it with the max-instance
16:49:23 bauzas sean-k-mooney: as I said in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/886232/comment/565abda0_70ab7fde/ we already have negative values for spreading
16:49:29 bauzas https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#filter_scheduler.io_ops_weight_multiplier
16:49:43 sean-k-mooney yep i pointed that out to you in the review
16:50:02 sean-k-mooney and noted that its unforturneate because its teh opisctie behavior of the cpu ram and disk weighers
16:50:17 sean-k-mooney and i didnt want to proliferate that by adding more useage
16:50:33 sean-k-mooney but as i also said its just a prefrence if other dont mind then fine
16:50:37 bauzas okay, if really you want it to be positive, then I'll just multiply by -1.0
16:51:01 bauzas but I'm not sure it's really a problem to have a negative value for spreadinh
16:51:23 bauzas anyway, looks to me an implementation nit
16:51:24 sean-k-mooney it just makes it harder to reason about
16:51:35 sean-k-mooney if it would not break peopel i would change the io_ops_weigher
16:51:39 bauzas do people agree on having https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/num-instances-weigher to be specless ?
16:51:40 sean-k-mooney but its really not worth it
16:51:41 dansmith I wasn't aware we had any sort of weigher convention where one value means pack or spread
16:51:47 dansmith bauzas: yes, specless
16:51:55 sean-k-mooney ya specless is good with me
16:52:00 bauzas cool, then we'll revisit this conversation in gerrit
16:52:09 dansmith I've heard you say that, but I've never heard that before
16:52:09 sean-k-mooney ack
16:52:10 bauzas anyone fancy to review the code itself
16:52:18 dansmith I guess I'll have to go look at the existing weighers and see
16:52:23 bauzas dansmith: I can't remember it too
16:52:42 bauzas in general our weighers have different default values
16:52:45 gibi +1 on specless
16:52:59 bauzas like https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#filter_scheduler.build_failure_weight_multiplier
16:53:03 dansmith bauzas: yeah I thought they were all pretty much individually contextual
16:53:09 bauzas which defaults to 1000000.0
16:53:10 sean-k-mooney in generall they all spread by default and positive measn spread. those are the two ruels of tumb i learend early on
16:53:21 bauzas anyway
16:53:28 sean-k-mooney if we broke that at some poin thats unfortunet btu its what we are stuck with
16:53:39 bauzas #agreed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/num-instances-weigher is approved as a specless bp
16:53:47 gibi \o/
16:53:55 bauzas I guess we can continue this in gerrit :!)
16:53:57 bauzas :)
16:54:34 bauzas okay, so I don't see any other item
16:54:42 bauzas anyone wanting to discuss on something ?
16:55:41 bauzas thanks :)
16:55:50 Uggla_ :)
16:56:01 bauzas I guess I'll need to stop sooner than later
16:56:06 bauzas anyway
16:56:09 bauzas thanks all
16:56:11 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-06-27-16.01.log.html
16:56:11 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-06-27-16.01.txt
16:56:11 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-06-27-16.01.html
16:56:11 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue Jun 27 16:56:11 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:56:11 bauzas #endmeeting
16:57:10 bauzas three machines and two screens running in a 9m2 room doesn't help with the temperature FWIW :)
17:30:14 gmann bauzas: sean-k-mooney elodilles gibi: about EM, TC will be discussing about EM as concept and how to solve the issue of maintenance expectation. Oldest/er EM branch(es) moving to EOL as per normal process/some blocker or project decision is all good to go.
17:35:24 elodilles gmann: ack, thanks for the info!
17:35:59 dansmith ++
17:37:14 gibi gmann: thanks
17:42:17 NobodyCam Good morning Nova folks, Would anyone happen to know if there is a list of status messages emitted by Nova??? I am look to see if there are events for rescue
17:45:12 NobodyCam I found them "rescue.start" & "rescue.end"
17:48:02 dansmith NobodyCam: this might help: https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/doc/notification_samples
17:49:42 NobodyCam Thank you dan. that is very helpful!
17:49:53 NobodyCam s/d/D/
18:39:13 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/os-vif stable/wallaby: Move mtu update request into ovsdb transaction https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/887017
18:39:14 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/os-vif stable/wallaby: set default qos policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/886778
19:21:01 opendevreview Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test reimage-timeout change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887112
19:22:25 dansmith bauzas: this ^ is the end of the chain to fix that rebuild timeout issue (we think)
19:24:24 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/xena: Reproduce live migration rollback w/o multi port bindings error https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/843336
21:48:44 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/xena: Fix LM rollback w/o multi port bindings extension https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/843337
22:23:50 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Propose tooling and docs for unified limits https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/887014
#openstack-nova - 2023-06-28
00:17:59 NobodyCam hey hey Nova folks, Off the wall question, should meta-data service(MDS) work in rescue mode. I have been testing rescuing a ironic node and it all seems to work, with the exception that I am unable to reach the MDS via curl.. so I was hoping that someone would know if it should work from rescue mode. The MDS work perfectly for the initially deployed image.
07:11:18 opendevreview Pierre Libeau proposed openstack/nova master: Remove port creation with device_id https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/861172
09:22:44 plibeau1 sean-k-mooney: hello thx for your help on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/861172 I have follow your recommendation if you have time to give me your feedback
09:38:09 sean-k-mooney ack i just skimmed it and it looks ok but ill try and find time to review it again later today
09:38:52 sean-k-mooney looks like it passed zuul so this is not breaking anything so thats good
09:51:47 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Make compute node rebalance safter https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887151
11:20:27 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Limit nodes by ironic shard key https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/886980
11:24:19 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Limit nodes by ironic shard key https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/886980
11:26:14 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Make compute node rebalance safter https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887151
11:26:14 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage ironic-compute-node-move https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/886989
13:14:44 ykarel sean-k-mooney, hi can you please revisit https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/868419
13:34:02 sean-k-mooney oh yes i touhgt we had merged that already
14:00:12 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Make compute node rebalance safter https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887151
21:14:00 opendevreview Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Test reimage-timeout change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887112
21:14:23 dansmith ugh, looks like we meant to register the reimage timeout in the compute group but ended up with it in DEFAULT
#openstack-nova - 2023-06-29
07:12:11 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/os-vif stable/yoga: set default qos policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/886710
07:26:19 Uggla_ bauzas, did you had a chance to look at my serie again ?
07:57:35 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/os-vif stable/yoga: set default qos policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/886710
08:22:31 opendevreview Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: Bump MIN_{LIBVIRT,QEMU} for "Bobcat" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/887255
08:23:57 kashyap Cc: sean-k-mooney --^ (No rush :))
08:27:19 kashyap (Maybe I can remove still one more constant. Me looks)
09:43:59 opendevreview Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/os-vif stable/xena: set default qos policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/886716
11:50:04 opendevreview Yamato Tanaka proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Do exact-matching when finding one instance by name https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/887268

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