| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-02-14 | |||
| 16:01:03 | bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | |
| 16:01:32 | bauzas | who's around ? | |
| 16:01:48 | elodilles | o/ | |
| 16:01:55 | bauzas | . | |
| 16:02:20 | auniyal | o/ | |
| 16:02:23 | bauzas | .. | |
| 16:03:11 | bauzas | I can start a monolog, and people can join meanwhile | |
| 16:03:16 | gibi | o/ | |
| 16:03:24 | bauzas | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | |
| 16:03:30 | bauzas | #info No Critical bug | |
| 16:03:36 | bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 17 new untriaged bugs (-11 since the last meeting) | |
| 16:03:43 | bauzas | great numbers | |
| 16:05:10 | bauzas | artom: thanks for that | |
| 16:05:18 | gibi | oh wao | |
| 16:05:23 | gibi | kudos artom | |
| 16:06:02 | bauzas | next in the roster is Uggla but he's on PTO till next week | |
| 16:06:30 | bauzas | and next in the queue is sean (I'll avoid to highlight him, he needs rest :) ) | |
| 16:06:44 | bauzas | so, I can try to triage a few bugs this week | |
| 16:07:03 | bauzas | I mean, this isn't like I'm already doing a shit ton of bugs checks | |
| 16:07:38 | bauzas | #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster | |
| 16:07:51 | bauzas | #info bug baton is being passed to bauzas this week | |
| 16:07:52 | gibi | bauzas: thansk | |
| 16:08:07 | bauzas | #topic Gate status | |
| 16:08:11 | bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | |
| 16:08:15 | bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures | |
| 16:08:26 | bauzas | that was (and that still is) an hectic week | |
| 16:08:43 | bauzas | tl;dr: our gate was blocked but we eventually merged the fix | |
| 16:09:19 | bauzas | but now we continue to have a ton of CI false positives with vif plugged events missed and other funs | |
| 16:09:40 | bauzas | I must to admit I beg people to share my pain | |
| 16:10:17 | gibi | I do share your pain | |
| 16:10:21 | opendevreview | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova stable/train: libvirt: At start-up rework compareCPU() usage with a workaround https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/873722 | |
| 16:10:21 | gibi | for some degree | |
| 16:10:25 | bauzas | anything now to raise except complaining that you do lots of rechecks ? | |
| 16:10:37 | gibi | one thing | |
| 16:11:11 | gibi | please be aware that upper constraints bumps cannot be merged at the moment due to failures | |
| 16:11:16 | bauzas | oh that | |
| 16:11:20 | bauzas | forgot to mention | |
| 16:11:21 | gibi | so even though we released os-traits 2.10 | |
| 16:11:26 | gibi | we cannot use that yet in placement and nova | |
| 16:11:47 | bauzas | yeah, tbc, that's not only the nova master gate which is broken broken (c) elodilles | |
| 16:12:07 | bauzas | the requirements project do has its own pain, and tempest too | |
| 16:12:09 | gibi | yeah as far as I see every u-c bump is blocked | |
| 16:12:15 | bauzas | correct | |
| 16:12:29 | bauzas | we discussed that in #openstack-requirements earlier today | |
| 16:12:35 | bauzas | there is a fix in the air | |
| 16:12:37 | bauzas | but, | |
| 16:12:42 | elodilles | it seems virtualenv release came just in time | |
| 16:12:43 | bauzas | there is another open issue | |
| 16:13:02 | bauzas | elodilles: yeah, that's lovely, a perfect Murphy timing | |
| 16:13:36 | elodilles | bauzas: could have been worse -> more closer to release date :) | |
| 16:13:47 | bauzas | not sure it changes anything tho | |
| 16:14:03 | bauzas | but let's jump to the next topic | |
| 16:14:11 | bauzas | fwiw, looking at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/recheck-weekly-summary | |
| 16:14:32 | bauzas | I can still see around 18% of rechecks that are bare rechecks | |
| 16:14:39 | bauzas | this is desesperating | |
| 16:14:56 | bauzas | I mean, we know we have CI failures | |
| 16:15:15 | bauzas | but if you just call 'recheck' without further info, you basically piss off your problems | |
| 16:15:46 | bauzas | and you make looking that you don't care about the CI, then why should we care about your own patches then ? | |
| 16:15:55 | gibi | nova is on 13.5% that is an improvement from the last 90 days (18.5%) | |
| 16:16:22 | bauzas | I'd like to be optimistic | |
| 16:16:30 | bauzas | I know that debugging a CI failure is tricky | |
| 16:16:56 | bauzas | but if you don't make the effort to try looking, then basically that means you don't care | |
| 16:17:25 | bauzas | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | |
| 16:17:29 | bauzas | all greens | |
| 16:17:36 | bauzas | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | |
| 16:17:42 | bauzas | (that's a wish) | |
| 16:17:49 | bauzas | #info STOP DOING BLIND RECHECKS aka. 'recheck' https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures | |
| 16:17:54 | bauzas | (that's a formal ask) | |
| 16:18:15 | bauzas | next topic for the fun ? | |
| 16:18:23 | gibi | one thing about CI | |
| 16:18:27 | bauzas | sure | |
| 16:19:00 | gibi | maybe we should make an dedicated effort next cycle to fix up CI first before we jump on adding new features | |
| 16:19:19 | gibi | maybe, asking people with feature proposals to take a gate bug first | |
| 16:19:20 | bauzas | gibi: that's litterally already in the PTG agenda :) | |
| 16:19:25 | gibi | bauzas++ | |
| 16:19:42 | bauzas | well, I was less harsh | |
| 16:19:56 | bauzas | but I opened a bullet point about CI failures and I had some ideas | |
| 16:20:09 | bauzas | I wrote some email yesterday | |
| 16:20:26 | bauzas | if people want recognition, I offer them a Great Way to Be Recognized | |
| 16:20:35 | gibi | cool | |
| 16:21:24 | bauzas | moving on then (fwiw, I like your idea to somehow ask people to show some dedication to upstream while they propose) | |
| 16:21:31 | kashyap | gibi: Fixed the thing in the above train backport too: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/873722 | |
| 16:21:35 | bauzas | this is actually a great jump to the next topic | |
| 16:21:36 | kashyap | (Err, sorry; there's a meeting going on) | |
| 16:21:40 | bauzas | kashyap: in a meeting | |
| 16:21:47 | kashyap | Yep, yep; saw that | |
| 16:21:55 | bauzas | moving on | |
| 16:22:00 | bauzas | #topic Release Planning | |
| 16:22:07 | bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/antelope/schedule.html | |
| 16:22:10 | bauzas | #info Antelope-3 is in 2 days | |
| 16:22:26 | bauzas | #info FeatureFreeze is in 2 days | |
| 16:22:36 | bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-antelope-blueprint-status Blueprint status for 2023.1 | |
| 16:22:44 | bauzas | here, I'm also a bit grumpy | |
| 16:23:03 | bauzas | we approved a couple of blueprints but despite this, a very few of them are actually reviewable | |
| 16:23:34 | bauzas | the os-bricks issue prevents one to correctly get reviewed, but alas, the series is even not fully complete | |
| 16:23:58 | bauzas | os-traits, not os-brick my bad | |
| 16:24:17 | bauzas | so, yeah, back to gibi's proposal, I think we may be harsher next cycle | |
| 16:24:32 | gibi | don't forget this was a shorter cycle | |
| 16:24:35 | bauzas | and ask people to show some evidence of work | |
| 16:24:42 | bauzas | gibi: that's a valid point | |