| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2022-09-01 | |||
| 16:43:59 | gibi | I don't want to blame, I want to find something I or we can do different next time | |
| 16:44:27 | jhartkopf | this ^ | |
| 16:44:30 | bauzas | everyone has different review sensitiveness | |
| 16:44:54 | bauzas | for me, I mostly care about upgrades and controler/compute relationship | |
| 16:45:01 | bauzas | but I miss other things | |
| 16:45:19 | bauzas | the point is, we're humans | |
| 16:45:37 | bauzas | artom: you're Quebecian | |
| 16:45:43 | bauzas | there is a default fail | |
| 16:46:02 | gibi | I don't want to believe that this is OK as is. :) | |
| 16:46:06 | artom | You want a Maurice Richard riot v2.0? Because that's how you get a Maurice Richard riot v2.0. | |
| 16:46:08 | gibi | I want to improve! | |
| 16:46:48 | sean-k-mooney | well i guss where this should have been hashed out comes back to the spec | |
| 16:46:56 | bauzas | yup ^ | |
| 16:47:15 | sean-k-mooney | and the first red flag should have been when the quetion of how to regenerate teh config drive came up | |
| 16:47:21 | sean-k-mooney | after the spec was merged | |
| 16:48:26 | gibi | dansmith: we would need a bit more than deadlines we would need to inject deadlines that forces a patch series to be ignored for 2 months or so | |
| 16:48:45 | dansmith | to not be? | |
| 16:49:08 | sean-k-mooney | we did actully have such a deadline in the past | |
| 16:49:19 | gibi | dansmith: to be. If the deadline only means I can try the same deadline two weeks from now then that does not force me to push for this particular deadline | |
| 16:49:20 | dansmith | I think part of the problem is that jhartkopf has to wait 6mon (minimum) before he has a consumable release with this in it | |
| 16:49:24 | sean-k-mooney | it was called the non-priorty feature propsal deadline | |
| 16:49:30 | dansmith | gibi: yeah that's true | |
| 16:49:39 | sean-k-mooney | which requried any feature not marked as a priorty to be propsed by m2 | |
| 16:49:47 | dansmith | gibi: two weeks is probably too infrequent to be pressure-inducing | |
| 16:50:01 | gibi | dansmith: true, I defaulted to scrum | |
| 16:50:04 | dansmith | we should probably retro this later, I have other m3 stuff I need to do | |
| 16:50:56 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: that fulfills the big-enough-pain-to-miss requirement. :) | |
| 16:51:44 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: I guess it introduced another issue, selecting priorities. But that was maybe less of a problem | |
| 16:52:07 | gibi | and we did see that having priorities would help with the rebuild bfv series | |
| 16:52:16 | gibi | * would have helped | |
| 16:52:50 | gibi | so I'm not against discussing the reintroduction of non-priority feature freeze as one possible option | |
| 16:52:51 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 16:53:03 | bauzas | noted. | |
| 16:53:05 | sean-k-mooney | so way back we used to requrie non priorty feature to merge by m2 | |
| 16:53:18 | sean-k-mooney | we then relaxed it for the to be proposed by m2 | |
| 16:53:18 | JayF | As a mostly-outside observer, this sounds mostly like the standard "10 gallons of work has to fit in a 5 gallon bucket" problem :) | |
| 16:53:21 | sean-k-mooney | and then removed it | |
| 16:53:25 | bauzas | remember, we discussed this at the PTG when I pointed out I was off for three weeks | |
| 16:54:06 | gibi | I have to drop, but thanks for the above discussion | |
| 16:54:10 | bauzas | but anyway, I personnally feel another deadline wouldn't have changed the situation | |
| 16:54:28 | gibi | lets continue this on the PTG as part of a retro | |
| 16:54:36 | bauzas | yet again, this was a design concern, being missed at the design state | |
| 16:54:36 | sean-k-mooney | sure | |
| 16:54:40 | bauzas | stage* | |
| 16:54:43 | dansmith | to be clear, my point about deadlines was that moving to yearly releases would make this a lot worse, not necessarily that more deadlines than we have would *solve* it | |
| 16:54:53 | bauzas | dansmith: oh yeah | |
| 16:54:58 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: yep it would | |
| 17:13:30 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: thanks for the link | |
| 17:38:35 | opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/nova stable/xena: nova-live-migration tests not needed for Ironic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/855469 | |
| 18:14:03 | opendevreview | Rico Lin proposed openstack/nova master: Add traits for viommu model https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844507 | |
| 18:14:52 | ricolin | sean-k-mooney: bauzas sorry, a pep8 error, can you approve it again, thanks | |
| 18:15:58 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Heal missing simple PCI allocation in the resource tracker https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/851359 | |
| 18:16:06 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Heal PCI allocation during resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852396 | |
| 18:16:13 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Heal allocation for same host resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854822 | |
| 18:21:46 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Handle PCI dev reconf with allocations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852397 | |
| 18:21:54 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Allow enabling PCI tracking in Placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850468 | |
| 18:25:40 | dansmith | ricolin: I got you | |
| 18:28:49 | ricolin | thanks dansmith | |
| 18:52:43 | bauzas | ricolin: dansmith: done too | |
| 19:15:04 | bauzas | fwiw, I'm setting Implemented against all blueprints that have their API changes merged but waiting for client patches | |
| 19:15:24 | bauzas | nova in launchpad != novaclient and osc | |
| 19:29:10 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Ignore plug_vifs on the ironic driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/821351 | |
| 19:32:00 | bauzas | fwiw, procedural -2 on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/816157/16 | |
| 19:35:08 | JayF | Intersesting failure case in stable/yoga CI, I think it's probably something that's actually-broken, but not by my patch: https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_8b1/854257/2/gate/openstack-tox-py39/8b1323f/testr_results.html | |
| 19:35:49 | JayF | Given that all tests that were comparing the contents there are all failing in a similar way, with no human-readable changes | |
| 19:36:02 | sean-k-mooney | JayF i have hit that too | |
| 19:36:07 | sean-k-mooney | on complete unrelated path | |
| 19:36:19 | sean-k-mooney | i cant repodcue it locally for what its worth | |
| 19:36:25 | JayF | are you suggseting I just retry then? | |
| 19:36:44 | sean-k-mooney | let me check if my other one pass after a retry | |
| 19:36:54 | JayF | I can do that, I usually don't pull that lever if it looks nonrandom like this one does, but I don't know enough about nova failure cases to be certain | |
| 19:38:05 | sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/855025 failed agian | |
| 19:38:13 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: same issue | |
| 19:38:19 | sean-k-mooney | and its only on py39 | |
| 19:38:25 | sean-k-mooney | the py36 test passes | |
| 19:38:41 | bauzas | gibi: sean-k-mooney: others, you may be interested in the antelope timeframe https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753/5/doc/source/antelope/schedule.rst | |
| 19:38:47 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: so its a real blocker | |
| 19:39:07 | bauzas | gibi: sean-k-mooney: this sounds a shorter development cycle | |
| 19:39:39 | sean-k-mooney | so its seams to be repoducabel in ci | |
| 19:39:39 | sean-k-mooney | i had t fail on all patches in a 5/6 patch sereis and on the recheck of the first patch | |
| 19:39:39 | sean-k-mooney | not realted to your patch at all | |
| 19:45:34 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: i am not sure ill have time to look at that this week but we likely should track that as a stable gate bug. ill try and follow up with elodilles about it next week | |
| 19:46:01 | JayF | When you say "track that as a stable gate bug", what does that mean in practice for Nova? | |
| 19:46:11 | JayF | I know in Ironic, e.g., we have an etherpad we track that in | |
| 19:46:34 | JayF | I'm happy to document the issue; I can't sit here and ask for a bajillion stable reviews without being willing to help with CI somewhat :D | |
| 19:46:40 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: we have an etherpad and we file a bug with gate blocker in the title | |
| 19:46:50 | JayF | Where could I find a link to that etherpad? | |
| 19:46:56 | sean-k-mooney | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci | |
| 19:47:02 | JayF | ty | |
| 19:48:23 | JayF | bugs in nova are launchpad, not storyboard? | |
| 19:48:41 | JayF | yep looks like it, filing it and will update the etherpad | |
| 19:48:54 | sean-k-mooney | yep launchpad | |
| 19:49:21 | sean-k-mooney | we have as gate-failure tag | |
| 19:56:10 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add vIOMMU device to guest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/830646 | |
| 19:57:08 | sean-k-mooney | JayF: https://tinyurl.com/mr3pjzyn | |
| 19:57:24 | JayF | What login would I use for that? | |
| 19:57:29 | JayF | I've not used opensearch yet | |
| 19:57:35 | sean-k-mooney | openstack openstack | |
| 19:57:56 | sean-k-mooney | its basically the same | |
| 19:58:42 | sean-k-mooney | so only 8 hits 6 are me i think but i feel like that might be a limaitaiotn of the query | |