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#openstack-nova - 2019-07-03
18:32:48 sean-k-mooney we talked about it a little today in our squad call
18:33:02 sean-k-mooney im going to simplfy it and proably add a depency on some of the placmenet stuff
18:33:24 sean-k-mooney i will likely make memory bandwith depend on the numa in placment spec
18:33:38 sean-k-mooney i would like to keep cache not depenent on tha tbut may on same tree
18:34:34 sean-k-mooney well it depends i have to see is there a way to us more of the plamcent stuff
18:35:05 sean-k-mooney it significantly incresase the risk we wont have CAT in train however
18:35:53 efried I'm addressing similar concerns in the providers.yaml spec
18:36:47 sean-k-mooney ill admit i have nto really been following that one. i kindof got burt out on that topic last cycle
18:37:05 sean-k-mooney is it approching agreement or still in flux
18:37:36 efried Dakshina has me convinced that there's a reason to do cache in child providers. But only to ensure that one request group gets all its cacheways from one package -- *not* because we can do anything about affinity.
18:37:40 efried however
18:37:44 efried in tree
18:37:59 efried we can do affinity after GET /a_c via the NUMATopologyFilter
18:39:54 efried was gonna say that couples the filter to libvirt, but that's already dismally true anyway.
18:40:26 efried sean-k-mooney: I haven't posted those comments yet, but will ping you once I have.
18:41:06 sean-k-mooney ok. im goign to leave the rebasing it so that we can continue the disucssion in one place
18:41:19 sean-k-mooney are you off for the 4th of july weekend?
18:41:29 sean-k-mooney i assume yes
18:41:49 efried and dansmith, I'll review tetsuro's same_subtree patch. I have the broad strokes from an earlier iteration, but it's now been squashed and reworked a little bit, so I need to refresh and see how far off it still is. And if it's as close as I think, I'll take a stand on the vgpu affinity spec.
18:42:05 dansmith thanks
18:42:06 efried sean-k-mooney: yes, I'll be off Th & F
18:42:31 efried Friday is my 22nd anniversary :)
18:43:19 dustinc efired: congrats!
18:43:20 sean-k-mooney 22nd, surly not wedding? unless you were married quite young
18:43:24 dustinc efried..
18:44:03 sean-k-mooney as in before its legal.
18:44:12 efried hehe. I was married at 20
18:44:30 efried so it was legal to marry, just not legal to buy alcohol :P
18:44:45 efried thanks dustinc
18:45:26 sean-k-mooney well congrats and i always get confused about how the us legislates for mimium ages for things
18:45:39 efried you're not the only one
18:46:20 dustinc can active duty still buy beer/wine at 18 on base?
18:46:23 dustinc gets even more confusing
18:46:25 efried 21 for alcohol is country-wide at this point. Louisiana was (I think) the last one to capitulate in the late '90s (from 18) when the fed cut off their road funding.
18:47:13 sean-k-mooney you can drive from 16 and get a gun licence at 16 or 18 right and marry at like 16-18 depending on the state
18:47:17 efried sean-k-mooney: I grew up near London, where the official age was 18 but not enforced at all. I was pubbing from 14.
18:47:21 sean-k-mooney and vote at 18 too right
18:48:06 dustinc the problem with voting here is you can vote at 18 but nobody does until 60 sigh...
18:48:08 efried vote at 18, yes, that was a big deal ~20y ago. Driving depends on the state, but it's 16 in most places. You can get an exception for "hardship" or farming (which are the same thing to me :P )
18:48:16 efried that's not a problem
18:48:34 efried the problem with voting is that you are allowed to do so despite being completely ignorant
18:48:49 dustinc that doesn't change with age
18:48:55 efried swhat I'm sayin.
18:49:01 dustinc gotcha :)
18:49:23 dustinc voting is really complicated in some states too
18:49:29 sean-k-mooney ya you can get a work vechles lices that allows you do drive a tracker or combin haveser at 16 in ireland but need to be 18 to get a car license which is ... odd
18:49:41 dustinc my state votes by mail, others you have to stand in line for hours
18:50:00 dustinc do you have graduated licensing for motorcycles?
18:50:06 sean-k-mooney yes
18:50:30 dustinc we get 18 year olds buying a 1000cc for their first bike here
18:50:31 dustinc so annoying
18:51:25 sean-k-mooney http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Third%20Directive/bikes_chart_3rd_directive_V2.pdf
18:51:30 efried In the UK didn't they pass a thing where you have to have a decal of some sort for the first year after you get your license, so other motorists are warned that you still suck?
18:51:52 sean-k-mooney http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Learner-Drivers/Motorcyclists/Licence-categories-explained/
18:52:29 sean-k-mooney efried: thats in ireland
18:52:35 sean-k-mooney you have N placnete for novice
18:52:47 sean-k-mooney *plates
18:53:39 sean-k-mooney i like the metric system but i really dont understadn inutitivly how much 11KW is vs horsepower
18:54:41 dustinc about 14hp according to google..dunno how you can even get around with so little
18:55:01 dustinc a common starter bike here is 250cc twin and they make around 35hp I think
18:55:05 dustinc and are sooo slow
18:55:08 sean-k-mooney what does a 125cc engin normally put out
18:55:45 dustinc not sure, guessing 11kw/14hp is probably pretty typical
18:55:58 dustinc we just don't have many street-legal 125cc here
18:56:13 sean-k-mooney ya that is the smalest license you get when your 16
18:56:24 sean-k-mooney so its mainly scotters and dirt bikes
18:57:05 sean-k-mooney that said i was not expecting thise to qualify https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/advice/new-riders-and-training/top-10-a1-licence-friendly-bikes-2018
18:57:15 dustinc it should be that way here, maybe start at 250cc since 125cc is hard to find, but people starting out on 110hp 600cc sport bikes (or worse...180-200hp liter bikes) is common and causes lots of accidents..and then expensive insurance and stupid laws
18:59:00 sean-k-mooney i guess you really dont need the same level of raw horse power vs a car. anyway i better finish up my email and sign off for the evening o/
19:00:09 dustinc you guys get some cool little bikes there...
19:00:49 sean-k-mooney unfortunetly i dont have a bike license so cant ride any of them
19:01:20 sean-k-mooney i have though about getting it but mainly since i never drive my car and have been thinink of gettin rid of it but still should have somthing
19:02:14 qqmber sean-k-mooney: I just ceated a new instance and in this one worked (attaching a new volume)... Crap... maybe the instance is screwed :(
19:03:13 sean-k-mooney qqmber: it might be related to your iscsi backend
19:03:37 sean-k-mooney do you have issue conencting to it form other vms on the same host
19:03:49 qqmber that's what I'll try now
19:04:09 sean-k-mooney you could also try moving the vm to anohter host and see if that fixes it
19:04:18 sean-k-mooney but it could be that its not propely exported
19:04:21 mriedem dansmith: efried: i was out getting my quarterly sheering, do i need to weigh in on this numa affinity spec thing? b/c i don't really want to.
19:04:38 mriedem *shearing
19:04:39 mriedem sorry
19:05:26 efried mriedem: Apparently we all have to take a stand one way or another, or dansmith won't be our friend anymore.
19:05:32 dansmith mriedem: if you want, but I think I nudged efried in enough of a direction that it won't matter
19:05:34 efried wait
19:06:09 mriedem i haven't reviewed the latest updates on sylvain's spec
19:06:21 dansmith efried: not all of us, just you (have to take a stand)
19:06:23 mriedem nor do i really have much skin in this game
19:08:56 mriedem does france vacation season end before or after FF....
19:09:17 dansmith does it end...at all?
19:10:23 mriedem touche
19:11:56 mriedem fyi for anyone following along, there is 1 queens change to merge https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens+label:Code-Review=2 and then i'll be doing a release
19:12:42 sean-k-mooney i was expecting that to auto merge whne the parent did
19:12:43 qqmber sean-k-mooney: one (maybe) important point... the instance with the (apparent) problem was migrated from one host to another (I shutdown the instance first)
19:12:58 mriedem sean-k-mooney: it would have if not for gate failures
19:13:35 sean-k-mooney mriedem: ya i just clicked in an notice the job that failed faild before the test ran
19:13:44 sean-k-mooney qqmber: did you confimr the migration
19:14:19 sean-k-mooney if not the instace might still be pointing at the source node.
19:16:48 qqmber yes, I did
19:17:10 qqmber is there any way to confirm that? (I'm 99.9999999% sure I did)
19:17:16 sean-k-mooney ok i was just wondering if the instace.host could still be set to the old host

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