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#openstack-nova - 2019-03-05
20:12:52 mriedem artom: hence why it had to be reverted from that hard reboot change
20:13:00 mriedem this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553035/
20:13:01 artom dansmith, yes
20:13:25 aspiers mriedem: haha, well my first version of that venn diagram was quite different, you can blame^Wthank efried for a lot of that second version
20:13:37 mriedem linuxbridge also had some problems with that in the neutron lb job because something about polling for changes and it would miss them and not send the event
20:13:42 melwitt I concur, thanks aspiers++
20:13:48 artom mriedem, ah, so the note is just worded poorly to say "ODL will only send us vif-plugged if the host has changed"
20:13:51 dansmith mriedem: ah, yeah that's the thing I was expecting to find in there, forgot that had to be reverted too
20:13:53 aspiers thanks melwitt :)
20:14:04 artom ... which obviously it doesn't on hard reboot
20:14:05 mriedem artom: it is worded perfectly
20:14:38 artom Nuh uh, communication is only perfect if the thickest of idiots understand it. I didn't understand this. QED.
20:14:49 mriedem of course the port binding host *does* change during live migration,
20:15:03 mriedem but that happens after / during the guest transfer, not as a result of plug_vifs during pre_live_migration
20:15:06 mriedem which is what that config is used for
20:15:53 mriedem also, let me say, that i'm afraid sean-k-mooney might be dead or something because this entire conversation is the kind of thing he stays up until 3am for
20:16:01 artom Seriously.
20:16:23 aspiers LOL
20:16:25 artom RIP sean I guess. We'll do a minute of silence i Denver.
20:18:21 artom mriedem, wait, so why is that note even there? It's talking about not sending events when the host binding doesn't change.
20:18:30 artom That doesn't apply to live migration...
20:18:52 jaypipes mriedem: was I not supposed to +2 something?
20:20:47 aspiers jaypipes: hopefully +2 is OK, W+1 might not have been though :)
20:21:16 artom So, I think I should ignore the whole Neutron backend thing for now. It's out of scope, and I shouldn't introduce new bugs by ignoring it because it's currently ignored anyways. We can continue to wait for events in the same situations as currently, we just need to change the timing of the waits.
20:23:20 melwitt poor wording, that reminds me, I was supposed to update the consoleauth reno (or was it nova-status?) yet again to make more sense. I need to find IRC log from that convo with imacdonn
20:29:22 imacdonn melwitt: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2019-02-20.log.html#t2019-02-20T18:46:52
20:29:58 edmondsw mriedem yeah, I agree with you and efried. Should be fine, except that we do need to go update the OOT driver as well, so the heads up is definitely appreciated.
20:30:16 melwitt imacdonn: thanks, you're awesome
20:30:22 imacdonn :)
20:32:05 mriedem artom: ...
20:32:18 mriedem artom: it's saying where this config is used, might not make sense for all networking backends (ODL),
20:32:27 mriedem because the config is only for vif plugging, not port binding host changes,
20:32:34 mriedem ODL doesn't send events for the former, but does for the latter,
20:32:38 mriedem but the latter is not where that config is used
20:32:49 mriedem port binding happens during/after the guest transfer,
20:32:57 mriedem we're waiting for the event before starting the guest transfer
20:33:09 mriedem because if the dest plug fails or something, we don't want to start transferring the guest
20:33:57 mriedem dansmith: check my comments on takashin's fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636271/ - should i just not care about a functional test for live migration or stack it up on top myself if i care?
20:34:06 mriedem i'm probably reaching
20:34:27 mriedem jaypipes: see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638680/
20:35:05 dansmith mriedem: I dunno, the real change is in that object loader, which seems pretty well covered by two operations, so .. seemed like enough to me
20:35:21 artom mriedem, ah, got it, I think. Sorry, am slow.
20:35:28 dansmith I pulled it down and poked at it too, both fail in the expected way...
20:35:33 mriedem dansmith: yeah ok, i just don't like being told it's not an issue for live migration :)
20:36:04 dansmith well, I don't think stacking one on top is a problem if it makes you feel better
20:36:33 mriedem it won't fill the hole inside
20:36:44 dansmith hah
20:36:59 artom mriedem, oh, ODL *doesn't* send events for binding host changes
20:37:27 mriedem WRONG
20:37:35 artom DAMMIT
20:37:41 mriedem it *only* sends events in that case
20:37:42 dansmith ARGH
20:37:55 artom That note is damn confusing, I'm not backing down from that >_<
20:38:14 mriedem is it time for a truth table in that config option note?
20:38:27 mriedem if x and y but not z = False?!
20:38:38 artom ...
20:39:17 artom OK, sorry, it's fine.
20:39:23 artom I misread mriedem's line here.
20:39:51 artom I mean, mostly fine, it could be worded better.
20:40:57 dansmith but, the note is for an operator,
20:41:04 dansmith and all they need to know is ODL is not okay
20:41:16 dansmith it's not meant to explain the inner workings of both services, like you want it to, right?
20:41:21 artom Yeah
20:41:50 artom I just think explicitly saying what "OK" (or "will not currently work") would have been better
20:42:33 artom I need to be off anyways
20:42:41 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Fix an error when generating a host ID https://review.openstack.org/639936
20:43:31 mriedem for those that *need* to know the inner details, the bug report is linked
20:44:12 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add detection of SEV support from QEMU/AMD-SP/libvirt on AMD hosts https://review.openstack.org/633855
20:46:32 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add detection of SEV support from QEMU/AMD-SP/libvirt on AMD hosts https://review.openstack.org/633855
20:55:24 sean-k-mooney mriedem: :) i was having dinner but i see ye were dicussing how odl breaks all the things when it comes to vif-plugged events
20:57:54 sean-k-mooney artom: by the way i straed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/635083/ to recored which ml2 driver bound a port so we can use it in nova for thing and i intend to add another feature that report when each ml2 driver sends events. e.g. on portbinding vs when the backend wires it up
21:04:50 mriedem easy bug fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638821/
21:04:53 sean-k-mooney artom: what im hpoing we can do in train is take all the guess work out of when the event will be sent and have neutron tell us but i need to bring this up with the neutron folks and work with them to create a spec.
21:08:25 sean-k-mooney i know we made the DriverBlockDevice inherit from dict to make tanstioning to it simpler but at some point it would be better to bit the bullet and just make it a reall nova object/ovo
21:45:04 openstackgerrit Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: Validate PCI aliases early in resize https://review.openstack.org/641131
21:45:38 cfriesen mriedem: ^
21:46:07 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add new "supports_amd_sev" capability to libvirt driver https://review.openstack.org/638680
21:49:24 mriedem cfriesen: comments inline
21:50:15 cfriesen mriedem: wasn't sure whether to copy the other docstring or refer to it. :)
21:51:07 cfriesen will update based on other comments...do you think I should test that pci is not validated by default?
21:51:47 mriedem well, if you changed validate_pci=True, i'm guessing some existing tests for create/rebuild would fail b/c they haven't mocked something out?
21:52:03 mriedem if so, then you probably don't need an explicit test for that
21:52:19 cfriesen works
21:59:09 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: De-cruftify the finish_resize methods https://review.openstack.org/635349
21:59:10 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: neutron: make migrate_instance_finish call setup_instance_network_on_host https://review.openstack.org/635343
21:59:10 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Delete the obj_as_admin context manager https://review.openstack.org/635351
21:59:11 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use errors_out_migration decorator on finish_resize https://review.openstack.org/641138
21:59:11 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Temporarily mutate migration object in finish_revert_resize https://review.openstack.org/641137
22:05:45 mriedem dansmith: you might want to gander at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1818239
22:05:46 openstack Launchpad bug 1818239 in nova (Ubuntu) "scheduler: build failure high negative weighting" [High,Triaged]
22:18:49 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix WeighedHost logging regression https://review.openstack.org/641143
22:18:50 mriedem super easy regression fix that i've now seen in 2 reported bugs ^
22:29:45 mriedem someone want to send the bw provider microversion change to it's watery grave? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636360/
22:30:16 dansmith mriedem: I think I give up
22:30:46 mriedem on that build failure weigher? heh i know
22:30:55 mriedem "this seems bad if you have build failures...."
22:31:29 mriedem coreycb: maybe you and/or jamespage want to talk with us about bug 1818239
22:31:30 openstack bug 1818239 in nova (Ubuntu) "scheduler: build failure high negative weighting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818239
22:31:34 dansmith it also seems to assume that you can deploy with the completely standard config and expect everything to be fine, regardless of size or the bits of config you want to tweak
22:31:48 dansmith totally cool with charms defaulting it off

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