| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2018-03-16 | |||
| 19:08:55 | mriedem | *space | |
| 19:09:01 | mriedem | my typing has been really terrible lately | |
| 19:09:06 | mriedem | talking to sean-k-mooney too much | |
| 19:21:14 | mriedem | same g-api failed to start error in that job http://logs.openstack.org/08/553608/4/check/neutron-tempest-linuxbridge/0a5acff/logs/subnode-2/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2018-03-16_19_15_53_511 | |
| 19:24:41 | mriedem | looking at devstack-gate, when it sets up multinode connectivity between the two hosts, it looks like it runs some ansible playbooks and those all assume ovs | |
| 19:25:27 | superdan | mriedem: assume how? | |
| 19:26:21 | mriedem | https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/master/playbooks/roles | |
| 19:29:20 | mriedem | although it looks like those are only used for nova-net multinode | |
| 19:29:24 | mriedem | or if using dvr | |
| 19:29:27 | mriedem | which this job isn't | |
| 19:38:08 | mriedem | the subnode code is trying to hit g-api on the primary node, not the subnode where g-api is also running | |
| 19:48:44 | superdan | aaaand, etherpad discussions fail. | |
| 19:49:40 | superdan | fried_rice: we might need a way to draw a cut line on a long series and say "this is what we expect to get done during this window".. it'd be nice if that was always a whole blueprint, but maybe that's not always realistic | |
| 19:50:05 | fried_rice | superdan: Yes, exactly so. | |
| 19:50:28 | fried_rice | For two reasons: 1) reviewer bandwidth, 2) reasonable expectation to have the whole series completely ready at the same time. | |
| 19:50:56 | fried_rice | There was a time when the upt series was over a dozen patches tall. | |
| 19:50:58 | superdan | entirely possible that early patches will be reviewed to oblivion making later patches irrelevant until substantially changed | |
| 19:51:05 | fried_rice | Yes, that also. | |
| 19:51:20 | superdan | well, the point of this is to maintain focus so we can chew through long series easier, | |
| 19:51:43 | superdan | so maybe it just needs to be "have approximately two weeks of stuff to review at the head of your series" | |
| 19:51:53 | superdan | nobody will ever be able to measure that of course | |
| 19:52:04 | fried_rice | No, but we'll get better at it with practice. | |
| 19:52:06 | superdan | and hopefully most blueprints will wholly fit into two weeks, but.. | |
| 19:52:10 | fried_rice | "Bottom N patches of bp X" | |
| 19:52:18 | fried_rice | kind of thing. | |
| 19:52:23 | mriedem | it's likely a discussion that happens when talking about the next thing to go into a slot, | |
| 19:52:27 | superdan | well, aim for whole blueprints, but for special problem children like you... | |
| 19:52:31 | mriedem | for single-patch small bp's, it's not an issue | |
| 19:52:56 | superdan | yeah | |
| 19:53:32 | mriedem | "is bp x ready for a slot? if so, are you going to be around for the next 2 weeks to respond to reviews? if so, i see that it's 20 patches already, what is the reasonable target?" | |
| 19:54:38 | mriedem | this shouldn't be all that process heavy | |
| 19:54:51 | mriedem | says the guy that loves process | |
| 19:54:55 | superdan | yeah for serious | |
| 19:55:11 | mriedem | hey, | |
| 19:55:13 | superdan | I expect we wing this for a cycle, and decide either to scrap it, or it becomes clear what some of the rules should be | |
| 19:55:16 | mriedem | when it's not *my* process i don't care as much | |
| 19:55:20 | superdan | heh | |
| 19:57:00 | jgwentworth | I'll ping gibi_ and bauzas next week to add their feedback to this too | |
| 19:58:17 | jgwentworth | since they're on PTO this week | |
| 19:58:38 | superdan | jgwentworth: might want to clean up the pad a bit and move discussion to the bottom or something | |
| 19:58:39 | jgwentworth | and it's friday late for them | |
| 19:58:42 | superdan | it's a fairly confusing read right now | |
| 19:59:09 | fried_rice | I'm done mucking with it; have at r. | |
| 19:59:09 | fried_rice | ++ | |
| 19:59:12 | superdan | a summary at the top or somethimg | |
| 19:59:27 | jgwentworth | yeah, I was debating whether to copy-paste the whole thing into a -discussion etherpad (should have done that first) and leave this as the trimmed down thing | |
| 19:59:48 | fried_rice | jgwentworth: I meant to mention, wouldn't mind if the definition was the first thing. | |
| 19:59:55 | fried_rice | ("What is a runway?") | |
| 20:00:01 | jgwentworth | oh, yeah, okay | |
| 20:15:20 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Update contributor guide for Rocky https://review.openstack.org/550288 | |
| 20:15:30 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Removed unnecessary parantheses in yield statements https://review.openstack.org/550379 | |
| 20:38:51 | mriedem | cfriesen: any idea if you can live migrate between compute hosts with different libvirt virt_types today? like qemu->kvm and back? | |
| 20:41:32 | mriedem | that pair might work, but i'm pretty sure something like kvm->xen wouldn't | |
| 20:52:40 | jgwentworth | superdan: this is a patch having to do with the hypervisor_type in the libvirt driver. it looked reasonable to me but I wasn't 100% sure whether filtering hypervisor_type by virt_type changes the semantics of hypervisor_type/capabilities. I'd appreciate your input about it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531347/ | |
| 21:10:52 | oomichi | hi, I have a question about Date(2012-09-27), Version(2012.1) on OpenStack Doc like https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/cli/nova-api-metadata.html | |
| 21:11:34 | oomichi | They make me feel the doc seems super old, I am not sure we need to update or remove them | |
| 21:12:14 | mriedem | oomichi: those have always annoyed me too | |
| 21:12:38 | oomichi | mriedem: hehe, let me check the other projects too | |
| 21:12:46 | mriedem | i'm not sure if they are needed for man page builds | |
| 21:12:51 | mriedem | or were just originally informational | |
| 21:13:37 | mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/man/cinder-manage.html | |
| 21:13:45 | mriedem | cinder doesn't have the version or date in theirs | |
| 21:14:07 | oomichi | mriedem: cool, thanks for picking it up | |
| 21:14:32 | oomichi | it would be nice to send a mail to get answer from doc team | |
| 21:14:34 | cfriesen | mriedem: I've never tried live migration between different libvirt types...I'd expect it to fail. | |
| 21:14:37 | oomichi | will do that | |
| 21:15:02 | mriedem | apparently there is a whole spec http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/man-pages.7.html | |
| 21:15:15 | mriedem | but i'm sure we don't follow the actual man page spec closely | |
| 21:15:24 | oomichi | btw cinder's "Manual group:cloud computing" seems a little odd | |
| 21:15:35 | mriedem | likely copied from nova | |
| 21:15:38 | mriedem | when cinder was split out | |
| 21:15:55 | mtreinish | oomichi, mriedem: it looks like it's just a table in the rst: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/cli/nova-api.rst#n9 | |
| 21:15:57 | smcginnis | Any man page specific stuff probably hasn't been touched since then. | |
| 21:16:53 | mtreinish | the man pages are just sphinx rendering the rst: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/source/conf.py#L137 with the manpage builder | |
| 21:17:17 | mtreinish | I just spent a bunch of time reformatting: https://stestr.readthedocs.io/en/latest/MANUAL.html to be a proper manpage when using that sphinx builder | |
| 21:17:32 | mtreinish | I can give you a hand with that if it's something you'd want to do | |
| 21:19:20 | oomichi | mtreinish: I might want to remove them (Date, Version) if we can | |
| 21:19:51 | mtreinish | yeah, I don't think that table adds anything. I think just push a patch to delete it, or change it to a comment so it doesn't render in the output | |
| 21:21:44 | oomichi | mtreinish: thanks, let me try | |
| 21:24:32 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: SchedulerReportClient.update_from_provider_tree https://review.openstack.org/533821 | |
| 21:24:33 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Fix nits in update_provider_tree series https://review.openstack.org/531260 | |
| 21:24:33 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use update_provider_tree from resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/520246 | |
| 21:24:34 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make generation optional in ProviderTree https://review.openstack.org/539324 | |
| 21:24:34 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Move refresh time from report client to prov tree https://review.openstack.org/535517 | |
| 21:24:35 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add nested resources to server moving tests https://review.openstack.org/527728 | |
| 21:26:02 | oomichi | mriedem: mtreinish: cinder team has removes Date and Version on the same reason which we feel: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325465/ | |
| 21:32:03 | openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up man page and remove version/date https://review.openstack.org/553903 | |
| 21:33:03 | openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova master: Remove version/date from CLI documantation https://review.openstack.org/553903 | |
| 21:33:32 | oomichi | mriedem: ^^^: done | |
| 21:40:02 | mriedem | +2 | |
| 21:40:17 | mriedem | POST_FAILURE on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553794/ so it's going to have to get rechecked | |
| 21:57:47 | mriedem | cfriesen: found the code that won't allow it | |
| 21:58:09 | mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/live_migrate.py#L210 | |
| 21:58:11 | mriedem | in the conductor task | |
| 21:58:18 | mriedem | also checks the version | |
| 22:00:38 | fried_rice | jgwentworth, superdan: Are we rolling out runways yet? I put one in the queue :) | |
| 22:01:46 | oomichi | thanks | |
| 22:01:50 | jgwentworth | fried_rice: heh, you're ready2rock. gonna ping gibi and bauzas on monday and see if they have anything to add/change before unleashing it to the dev ML | |
| 22:02:20 | fried_rice | cool cool. Meanwhile, same patches are in the rocky priorities etherpad, so I figger I'm covered :) | |
| 22:02:27 | jgwentworth | speaking of, while you're here oomichi if you have any feedback about our rough draft about runways for rocky https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-rocky | |