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#openstack-nova - 2018-01-26
14:18:54 sean-k-mooney im also wondering is there a way we could integrate mypy with ovo but that for another day
14:19:20 finucannot sean-k-mooney: Cool :) There's a spec there too because I think this would take a while to do (not that we need to check everything - only the most egregious stuff) so that's probably worth a look at
14:19:23 efried rgerganov No
14:19:59 efried rgerganov Also, we really don't want you to be accessing _Provider members directly.
14:20:21 sean-k-mooney ya i was going to start with the spec then read the ptaches you wrote once i had the context for why you were doing it :)
14:20:32 finucannot sean-k-mooney: And o.v.o uses a lot of magic and can definitely wait for a while :) I have started looking at oslo.config though
14:20:39 finucannot Mostly to test out pyannotate, mind
14:21:13 efried rgerganov I think the best way to find the root of the compute node tree is to use the nodename parameter we pass you in update_provider_tree.
14:21:39 efried rgerganov ...as a parm to .exists, .data, .has_*_changed, .update_*, etc.
14:22:22 rgerganov efried, then I think we need a find() method in the provider tree
14:22:37 efried rgerganov You can't have one :)
14:22:51 efried rgerganov We used to have it, but we took it out. Tell me what you are trying to do, what you need it for.
14:23:22 rgerganov efried, how do I find the provider for the compute node? iterate over all roots?
14:23:59 efried rgerganov From update_provider_tree? We pass you a nodename parameter. That ought to do the trick.
14:24:13 rgerganov efried, no it does not
14:24:13 efried rgerganov All the ProviderTree methods accept a name_or_uuid to identify the provider you're looking for.
14:25:01 efried rgerganov Can you tell me a little more about what you're trying to do with the root provider record?
14:25:09 rgerganov efried, first of all I want to remove all existing childs and add them again to avoid complicated synchronizations
14:25:18 rgerganov efried, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536348/4/nova/virt/vmwareapi/driver.py
14:25:57 rgerganov efried, sorry, this is the latest one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536348/5/nova/virt/vmwareapi/driver.py
14:26:34 efried rgerganov And this doesn't do the right thing? ==> provider_tree.update_inventory(nodename, root_rp_inv, None)
14:26:49 rgerganov efried, but how do I add a new child?
14:27:02 rgerganov I need the uuid of the parent
14:27:05 rgerganov not the name
14:27:28 efried oic, yeah. Probably wouldn't be a horrible idea for us to change that to name_or_uuid. Let me check if there's any reason we can't do that...
14:27:45 efried rgerganov But in the meantime, you can use provider_tree.data(nodename).uuid
14:28:19 rgerganov efried, ok, what about removing all the childs without using _Provider methods
14:28:38 rgerganov is this OK? root_rp.children.clear()
14:29:04 efried no, you'll have to do something like:
14:30:20 efried descendants = set(provider_tree.get_provider_uuids(nodename)) - set([provider_tree.data(nodename).uuid]); for desc_uuid in reversed(descendants): provider_tree.remove(desc_uuid)
14:31:11 rgerganov why so complicated?
14:33:10 izombie artom: are you around?
14:33:18 efried rgerganov Well, to be perfectly honest, we didn't anticipate that you would want to prune all descendants of the root. I'm still not convinced it's really necessary, but if it is, there's a way to do it.
14:33:40 efried rgerganov As far as why we don't let you have access to the internals, it's for thread safety.
14:34:06 rgerganov efried, but the virt driver get a copy of the tree, right?
14:35:07 efried rgerganov Keep in mind that we've designed this thing with a certain set of use cases vaguely in mind. As real consumers start really consuming it, and we encounter real use cases that run up against awkwardness, we can sure look into adding convenience methods for oft-seen usages.
14:35:59 efried rgerganov In update_provider_tree, yes, you don't have to worry about thread safety on the provider_tree parameter. You own it. But we don't have a separate ProviderTreeWhereThreadSafetyIsNotAnIssue class at the moment.
14:36:19 rgerganov ok
14:36:38 artom izombie, yeah
14:36:47 efried up to the point of that in-flight patch, SchedulerReportClient was the only thing using ProviderTree, and it does need to worry about thread safety (sort of :)
14:37:02 izombie The issue I was speaking of yesterday.
14:37:26 izombie artom: It was with the project-id, it wasn't according to the new regex pattern ;)
14:37:30 artom izombie, err, refresh my memory?
14:37:49 izombie artom: was trying to list nova servers and I was hitting 404..
14:38:02 artom izombie, oh, right
14:38:10 efried rgerganov Feel like proposing that change for new_child to accept name_or_uuid for the parent?
14:38:18 rgerganov efried, yes
14:38:42 rgerganov efried, I will submit patch for it
14:38:46 artom izombie, err, cool? I'm not sure what you mean by new regex pattern
14:39:13 efried rgerganov You could *almost* cheat and pass in the name as it stands :) But that won't quiiite work all the way.
14:39:15 rgerganov efried, I also think that removing all child providers is pretty valid use case
14:39:16 izombie artom: so project mapper has introduced some change in the way project id's are supposed to be
14:39:51 efried rgerganov I would need to understand more about why that's necessary. And in any case you'll have to get it past Jay :)
14:39:56 efried Which reminds me...
14:40:02 fried_rice It's FRIDAY!
14:40:08 artom izombie, I'll be honest, I'm not following
14:40:12 izombie artom: the regex expects a hex sort of value, but our's was simple characters. hence the project id was never fetched and directly passed to routes to find a match
14:40:19 fried_rice niiice
14:40:44 radio_gaga fried_rice, you familiar with the vmware driver?
14:40:56 fried_rice radio_gaga Not at all, sorry.
14:41:00 radio_gaga fried_rice, basically one nova-compute manges a compute cluster in vcenter server
14:41:22 izombie artom: okay, this code might help you gain context https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/__init__.py#L156-L158
14:41:24 radio_gaga fried_rice, a compute cluster may be divided into resource pools
14:41:42 radio_gaga fried_rice, now we want to create a nested RP for each resource pool under the compute cluster managed by nova
14:41:50 fried_rice radio_gaga And you don't have n-cpu running on those other ("slave"?) nodes in the cluster?
14:42:06 radio_gaga fried_rice, no
14:42:10 fried_rice k
14:42:20 radio_gaga fried_rice, the thing is that resource pools can be dynamic
14:42:21 fried_rice what's a "resource pool"?
14:42:24 artom izombie, ah, thanks - first time looking at that bit of the API code :)
14:42:43 radio_gaga fried_rice, it's just a group of compute resources
14:42:59 radio_gaga fried_rice, the point is that those resource pools can by dynamic
14:43:34 fried_rice radio_gaga Okay, so the hierarchy is: compute-host-where-service-is-running => resource-pool => slave-compute-node
14:43:35 radio_gaga fried_rice, and it would be a lot easier if we delete all child RP and create them again instead of trying to synchronize what's in the provider_tree and what's in vcenter
14:44:44 izombie artom: :) Necessity!
14:45:56 fried_rice radio_gaga Well, you could always provider_tree.remove(nodename)
14:46:10 fried_rice and then rebuild the whole shebang including the root.
14:46:29 fried_rice .remove(nodename) will implicitly whack everything under him.
14:46:39 radio_gaga fried_rice, hm, actually that will do the job
14:46:47 radio_gaga fried_rice, cool thanks
14:47:08 radio_gaga fried_rice, I will try it just in case :)
14:47:17 fried_rice radio_gaga But have you considered having all your compute nodes as roots, and tagging them with traits to identify their resource pool?
14:48:34 radio_gaga fried_rice, having them under one root is a better model because this is the same model in vCenter; you divide one big compute cluster into resource pools
14:50:01 fried_rice radio_gaga As you wish, just another possibility. Or have the slaves all be children directly under the root, and still tag 'em with resource pool trait name.
14:50:41 radio_gaga fried_rice, yeah, that's what I am trying to accomplish right now
14:51:12 fried_rice radio_gaga Point is, then you don't need to whack all the pools and rebuild them - you can just walk the children and reassign their traits.
14:51:49 leakypipes radio_gaga: awesome Friday nick :)
14:51:59 radio_gaga leakypipes, thanks :)
14:52:44 radio_gaga leakypipes, we were discussing changing provider_tree.new_child to accept name_or_uuid instead of uuid
14:52:59 fried_rice leakypipes IMO an oversight, easily corrected. Agree?
14:53:19 fried_rice leakypipes correction: parent_name_or_uuid instead of parent_uuid
14:53:30 radio_gaga yeah, right
14:54:29 leakypipes fried_rice: how about just "parent"
14:54:34 fried_rice sure
14:54:36 leakypipes fried_rice: and make it accept either.
14:54:37 ameeda can you please review this when you available ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528385/
14:54:43 fried_rice radio_gaga is going to propose it
15:02:39 tssurya superdan, mriedem, melwitt : regarding the solution we discussed for nova list displaying only the uuid when a cell DB is down, there is this issue that we end up displaying all the instance uuids in that cell (including the deleted ones)...since we take it from the mappings, :(
15:03:05 tssurya any ideas on how to differentiate the deleted ones using api info ?
15:03:16 melwitt there isn't a way

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