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#openstack-nova - 2018-01-19
14:32:53 leakypipes alex_xu: never mind. it's not a dependent patch, it's just in the same topic. damn gerrit... :(
14:33:32 sean-k-mooney fried_rice: differnet entityes are creating the resouce providers but the nova sechduler/conductor will be claiming both on behalf of the instance
14:33:48 fried_rice sean-k-mooney Sure, you *could* have it set up that way. Or, you know, not.
14:33:58 fried_rice sean-k-mooney At the moment, this is not a danger.
14:34:05 fried_rice sean-k-mooney In the future....
14:34:28 fried_rice Certainly for the general case usage of the placement API.
14:34:36 sean-k-mooney we could technically make the neutron port the owner of the vif which would then result in two owners
14:35:09 sean-k-mooney *vif allocation
14:35:22 fried_rice The solution would be fairly simple I think: just add the generation for each RP to PUT /allocations/{consumer_uuid} and POST /allocations
14:37:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: create vGPU for instance https://review.openstack.org/528832
14:38:05 fried_rice Basically, it works as long as all the allocations for a given consumer are always only managed by one thread at a time. Which is a constraint that happens to be true today, but certainly isn't documented as a limitation of using the API.
14:38:49 sean-k-mooney leakypipes: alex_xu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535642 seams to add suport for required to get /allocation_candiates but i dont see support for the Resouce1..,Required1 syntax needed for different traits per resouce. is there a followup patch for that
14:39:16 leakypipes sean-k-mooney: yes, we're not targeting that for queens. fried_rice has a patch up for that.
14:40:17 fried_rice leakypipes Quit saying that. We *are* targeting it for Queens, until something changes. We have an approved blueprint and 95% of the code merged.
14:41:05 leakypipes fried_rice: I won't hold up non-granular requests with traits for granular requests.
14:41:15 leakypipes fried_rice: does that sound more accurate?
14:41:23 sean-k-mooney leakypipes: ya i saw fried_rice's patch i assumed it superceeded alex's instead of building on it.thats problematic but ok. ill cherry pick fried_rice patch if i need it.
14:41:24 fried_rice leakypipes Agree with that (see -dev ml)
14:42:20 fried_rice sean-k-mooney ditto (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126393.html)
14:43:11 sean-k-mooney so how does required work wiht nrp
14:43:28 fried_rice sean-k-mooney The reason my patch doesn't build on alex_xu's is because mine is 2.5 months older :)
14:44:31 fried_rice sean-k-mooney You get candidates such that a) all resources come from providers in the same tree, and b) the union of all the traits on providers you actually get resources from is a superset of the traits you asked for.
14:45:11 sean-k-mooney fried_rice: ok the union is the important bit
14:45:13 fried_rice sean-k-mooney Which is obviously limited e.g. you can't say I want one VIF with trait CUSTOM_PHYSNET_A and one with CUSTOM_PHYSNET_B -- for that you would need granular, period.
14:46:17 sean-k-mooney yes but i can say one vif and one cpu with CUSTOM_PHYSNET_A and cpu_trait_x
14:46:43 fried_rice sean-k-mooney Yes. And you'd better hope that your CPU doesn't have trait CUSTOM_PHYSNET_A
14:46:54 fried_rice (silly example in this case)
14:47:12 sean-k-mooney why what would happen if it did?
14:47:19 fried_rice You could still get a vif from physnet B and placement will think it did its job.
14:47:28 sean-k-mooney ah
14:47:30 sean-k-mooney ok
14:48:29 sean-k-mooney well without traits at all we would get to the compute node try to bind the port and get a vif_binding_failed from neutron then hit the retry loop until we hit max retries or got lucky
14:48:43 fried_rice heh, yeah
14:49:01 fried_rice Oh, I'm not disputing that having traits support is better than not having traits support.
14:49:31 fried_rice Just that single-request-group has limitations no amount of trait-finagling will overcome.
14:49:49 sean-k-mooney fried_rice: ya i know but that example is precisly the one im trying to avoid in my poc as a first pass use of traits
14:50:04 openstackgerrit Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: hacky negotiation of ironic microversion https://review.openstack.org/535786
14:50:04 fried_rice sean-k-mooney Well, that's why we need granular :)
14:50:40 sean-k-mooney the minimal support will work for the simple case e.g. all interfaces on same physnet which is enough for demos
14:50:46 fried_rice yuh
14:50:59 fried_rice on the same physnet and same everything else that matters.
14:51:36 sean-k-mooney well we can have multiple physnets in the cloud and show that placement found the correct node
14:51:48 fried_rice Yup.
14:51:59 sean-k-mooney we would have had to use availablity zones with out tratis to do the same thing
14:52:26 sean-k-mooney or atleast some host_aggregate based filter
14:52:32 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: QEMU native LUKS decryption for encrypted volumes https://review.openstack.org/523958
14:52:45 fried_rice And you can *probably* even ask for multiple vifs on separate subnets in the same request. As long as you only want one of each. And don't share those traits with any other provider. Which is probably doable.
14:53:16 fried_rice brb
14:54:01 sean-k-mooney ill cross that bridge when i come to it but ya granular resouce requests in queens will support all of these usecase more cleanly/correctly
14:54:08 sean-k-mooney * in rocky
15:01:48 openstackgerrit Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: hacky negotiation of ironic microversion https://review.openstack.org/535786
15:02:44 leakypipes alex_xu: review done.
15:14:59 rabel hm. why is a PUT to /os-quota-sets/default working? this does not make sense in my brain
15:25:52 leakypipes fried_rice: just confirming... mgoddard's patches for "Call get_traits() in the resource tracker" and "Add get_traits() method to ComputeDriver" are obseleted with the update_provider_tree() work, correct?
15:26:53 fried_rice leakypipes Eventually, but when I asked him about it, apparently he's wanting to move forward more quickly than that.
15:27:16 fried_rice leakypipes Right now he's working toward what's described in his blueprint.
15:27:33 fried_rice leakypipes And that stuff will coexist with update_provider_tree until it doesn't.
15:28:11 leakypipes hmm, ok
15:28:17 fried_rice leakypipes Though xen is counting on using update_provider_tree, and I just found out vmware is as well.
15:28:48 leakypipes fried_rice: yeah, my preference for sure would be to have everyone on update_provider_tree()
15:28:49 leakypipes asap
15:28:51 fried_rice leakypipes I didn't love the idea of that redundant/extra compute driver method coming into existence for such a limited use and (hopefully) limited time...
15:28:54 fried_rice yeah, same
15:29:02 leakypipes k, at least we're on the same page.
15:29:11 leakypipes fried_rice: your series is looking great
15:29:18 fried_rice Thanks!
15:29:27 leakypipes I'm hoping we can get gibi or stephenfin on it.
15:30:41 fried_rice Late on a Friday... and both of them forgot their Friday nicks...
15:31:32 leakypipes fried_rice: well that is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
15:32:09 fried_rice ikr
15:32:19 fried_rice At least figleaf is on board
15:34:01 rgerganov fried_rice, i am trying to implement update_provider_tree for the vmware driver and I'll be happy to work with you on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520246 and the rest
15:34:04 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup redundant want_version assignment. https://review.openstack.org/535801
15:34:34 fried_rice rgerganov Ah, I was looking for rado - is that not also you?
15:34:57 rgerganov fried_rice, well i was also looking for efried but found fried_rice :)
15:34:58 fried_rice gibi You can redeem yourself by reviewing the series behind leakypipes
15:35:13 fried_rice rgerganov I make no apologies for my Fun Friday nickname
15:36:27 fried_rice rgerganov I'm going to need to rebase the top of the series to account for some stuff takashin did for including request IDs in deletion calls.
15:37:00 fried_rice Which leaves me in kind of a bind because the bottom of the series is close to mergeable, and I don't want to rebase it and set back the review process.
15:37:16 fried_rice Though I guess if I do it now, as long as it's auto-rebase-able, I keep reviews...
15:37:40 rgerganov fried_rice, yeah understood
15:38:16 finucannot leakypipes: What was this now?
15:38:45 fried_rice finucannot Welcome!
15:38:49 leakypipes finucannot: starting here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533244/
15:39:12 fried_rice finucannot Please and thank you.
15:39:21 finucannot Yup, I'll tackle that this evening
15:40:21 gibi finucannot: I'm also started looking at it, but I don't know when and where I run out of steam
15:41:17 fried_rice gibi finucannot Thank you for whatever you can manage.
15:41:24 leakypipes gibi: where's giblet today? :P
15:41:47 leakypipes \o/
15:41:52 giblet leakypipes: sorry, I always forget
15:42:20 fried_rice giblet finucannot leakypipes I'm going to rebase the series real quick to get rid of the merge conflicts on the top few patches...
15:42:34 giblet fried_rice: thanks for the headsup
15:42:37 leakypipes ok dokey
15:43:04 fried_rice leakypipes Your +2s will ride. Only the _delete_provider patch was manual.
15:43:11 leakypipes ack
15:43:12 fried_rice Here it comes.
15:43:17 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: ProviderTree.data => ProviderData https://review.openstack.org/533244
15:43:18 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Track associated sharing RPs in report client https://review.openstack.org/526539
15:43:18 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: SchedulerReportClient.set_traits_for_provider https://review.openstack.org/532564

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