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#openstack-nova - 2017-10-27
13:49:19 mriedem superdan: is there any specific reason that nova.objects.base.obj_to_primitive doesn't convert datetimes to primitives?
13:49:39 superdan mriedem: um
13:49:46 belmoreira mriedem if in ocata the resource tracker still reports the allocations, means that in my upgrade procedure I move to the global placement just before upgrade to pike. In that case I would not need to merge the dbs.
13:51:08 mriedem belmoreira: so you're going to update nova.conf on all of the computes to point at global placement, take down the control plane and wait for the periodic task to do the inventory and allocation population?
13:51:19 mriedem s/control plane/api
13:51:56 mriedem belmoreira: to be clear, the resource tracker will continue to update allocations in placement as long as there is at least 1 <pike compute
13:52:02 superdan oh _that_ obj_to_primitive
13:52:11 mriedem it's just once all computes are >= pike we stop doing that
13:52:21 mriedem superdan: yeah i expected that to turn the entire object and it's fields into primitives
13:52:39 superdan mriedem: that is really obj_to_dict() for doing unholy things.. it doesn't serialize an object
13:52:50 mriedem ok - was trying to figure out why we needed this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515539/1/nova/scheduler/utils.py@a83
13:52:57 mriedem when we had already converted objects to primitives above
13:53:01 mriedem guess it's not what i thought it was
13:53:12 mriedem like the bears in that cardinals game in the late 90s
13:53:20 mriedem with the dennis green post-game conference
13:53:23 mriedem leakypipes: ^
13:53:25 superdan because someone wants a dict that looks like the object, probably for compat
13:53:56 superdan I would confirm, but a83 is not a line number
13:54:06 mriedem it's the left side of the diff
13:54:38 belmoreira mriedem yes, and then upgrade control plane/compute nodes to pike, and do the cellsV2 mappings. All of this in downtime of course. maybe it will be more error prone and easier than the DB merging
13:54:59 mriedem belmoreira: "less" error prone?
13:55:18 superdan oh sure enough
13:55:30 mriedem ok i'll just return the to_primitive call with a note
13:55:38 belmoreira s/more/less :)
13:56:02 leakypipes mriedem: not sure why the jsonutils call is there :(
13:56:41 superdan belmoreira: the merging should be easy I would think.. tbh that seems less concerning that running ocata computes for a period of time to build new placement data, but it's your call.. I assume you'll test it
13:56:47 mriedem leakypipes: i meant the football reference!
13:56:58 mriedem i need at least one football person in this channel
13:57:00 mriedem clarkb:
13:57:08 leakypipes mriedem: sorry, you lost me at hello on that one.
13:57:11 superdan mriedem: I'm still a big confused, because that's jsonutils, not obj_to_primitive
13:57:45 mriedem superdan: i removed the jsonutils.to_primitive becaues it's calling that on a request_spec dict, which i thought had already-serialized items in it,
13:57:55 mriedem because of the obj_to_primitive calls that happen above for the instance and flavor
13:58:00 mriedem so i thought it was a redundant call and removed it
13:58:06 mriedem leakypipes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w
13:58:20 superdan mriedem: oh I see.. dear god
13:58:32 superdan mriedem: those are dictified instance and flavor not a serialized instance
13:58:40 mriedem let'em off the hook jay
13:59:07 leakypipes mriedem: :) ok, gotcha now.
13:59:29 superdan I think what we've learned here is that football references have no place in a nerd hangout
13:59:30 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup build_request_spec https://review.openstack.org/515539
14:01:15 leakypipes superdan: a lesson learned. it's a game of inches. sometimes you just need to go for it on fourth and ten.
14:01:24 belmoreira superdan if the data it's correctly recreated I would prefer to let the resource tracker do it. At the end should be faster than all the work required for the DB merging. Yes, I will test and let you know. Thanks
14:03:33 mriedem leakypipes: pretty risky unless you're in the red zone under the 2 minute warning and behind by over 3
14:03:40 mriedem then you have no choise
14:03:41 mriedem *choice
14:04:23 leakypipes mriedem: right. though that's just a hail-mary pass to superdan at that point.
14:05:31 mriedem belmoreira: ok - the key thing being that you leave one compute at ocata until all of the other pike computes have reported their information
14:06:04 mriedem belmoreira: and you'd need some tooling to verify that is done, like querying placement for all active instances to make sure they show up with allocations
14:08:41 belmoreira mriedem ok. thanks
14:09:04 bauwser mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515530/2/nova/conductor/manager.py@831 are you sure we can't have a rebuild where host=None ? I thought it was
14:09:18 mriedem bauwser: not for "rebuild"
14:09:27 bauwser mmmm
14:09:38 bauwser okay, then nevermind my -1, I'll changeit
14:09:49 mriedem bauwser: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L2948
14:09:56 mriedem rebuild wants to bypass the scheduler
14:10:15 bauwser that was my only concern, I was wanting to make sure that we were rebuilding by using the right image, which is image_ref
14:10:23 bauwser I mean, the target image
14:10:25 mriedem see the plethora of comments in the rebuild_intsance method i added recently about all of the fun conditionals and in what cases we get there from the voodoo in the api
14:10:32 bauwser yeah
14:10:33 mriedem bauwser: yeah that's a long-standing bug
14:10:45 mriedem "new image for rebuild!? sure, what the hell, we trust you!"
14:11:02 bauwser yeah :(
14:11:16 bauwser I thought we were checking the image even for a rebuild
14:11:39 bauwser the evacuate is a special case because we can pass a destination as a target on the CLI
14:11:53 bauwser while rebuild is not
14:12:05 mriedem https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1667667
14:12:07 openstack Launchpad bug 1667667 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Rebuilding instance ignores image's property hw_disk_bus" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to 赵明俊 (falseuser)
14:12:19 bauwser I wonder what a true use ris
14:12:23 bauwser user is*
14:12:45 bauwser wait, you said we use instance.host right?
14:12:52 mriedem bauwser: for "rebuild"
14:12:54 bauwser so, we're *always* rebuilding on the same host ?
14:12:54 mriedem yes
14:12:59 mriedem for "rebuild" yes
14:13:04 bauwser WAAAAAAAAT
14:13:11 bauwser a world is failling down to me
14:13:17 mriedem rebuild != evacuate
14:13:21 bauwser that I know
14:13:40 bauwser I just thought we were just finding another host unless you allow the rebuild on the same host
14:13:57 mriedem that wasn't the bug, it was this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1664931
14:13:59 openstack mriedem: Error: malone bug 1664931 not found
14:16:27 bauwser mriedem: okay, looks like I just forgot
14:16:38 bauwser mriedem: then, we need to tackle ^
14:16:53 bauwser the patch is still valid in my mind
14:17:40 mriedem fried_rice: sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492247/
14:19:16 fried_rice mriedem These get handled by passing them to KSA.
14:19:35 fried_rice mriedem But I'll see if cfg.DeprecatedOpt has a way for me to fill out 'since' and 'reason'.
14:19:36 mriedem fried_rice: the options themselves aren't called out as deprecated,
14:19:39 mriedem or when they were deprecated
14:19:52 mriedem fried_rice: you'd mark the nova opts as deprecated
14:19:55 mriedem in their definition
14:19:59 mriedem as normal
14:20:15 fried_rice ah, okay, will do.
14:20:23 mriedem but, i'm not done with this review yet,
14:20:24 mriedem so hold up
14:22:19 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Factor out duplicated notification sample data https://review.openstack.org/452818
14:22:20 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Deduplicated instance.(un)pause notification samples https://review.openstack.org/452820
14:22:20 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Factor out duplicated notification sample data (2) https://review.openstack.org/452819
14:22:21 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Deduplicate instance.power-off notification samples https://review.openstack.org/475860

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