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#openstack-nova - 2017-04-26
09:53:50 bauzas I'm not that seasoned with docs
09:53:59 bauzas although I patched docs in 2013 :p
09:54:28 bauzas but IIRC, it was far less complicated, either you deployed with Ubuntu or Fedora
09:55:35 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in floating_ip files https://review.openstack.org/459791
09:55:50 bauzas johnthetubaguy: asettle: so I guess if it's that simple, we should just have variable doc depending on which distro they use nope?
09:56:05 johnthetubaguy alex_xu: cool, glad we got that deprecation sorted, makes those docs much simpler ^
09:56:10 asettle bauzas: the variables are easy. We can manage that. We already do. So. Yep?
09:56:17 johnthetubaguy bauzas: thats what we do
09:56:41 bauzas asettle: could we then just try to have that reviewed by most of the distros ?
09:56:56 bauzas and having endpoints different between them ?
09:57:11 bauzas idk, just seems to me the easiest solution
09:58:14 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in migrate_server.py https://review.openstack.org/459711
09:58:36 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in migrate_server.py https://review.openstack.org/459711
10:04:02 cdent asettle, bauzas, johnthetubaguy did you resolve the above discussion satisfactorily? I tend to agree with johnthetubaguy: make the docs match the packages and leave it at that (for now)
10:04:16 asettle cdent: uh not quite. I think bauzas lost me with his last comments.
10:11:44 Dinesh_Bhor johnthetubaguy, sfinucan: Hi, if you get time then please take a look at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457890/
10:12:00 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(2/4) https://review.openstack.org/459569
10:15:58 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.soft_delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/460029
10:22:57 sfinucan Dinesh_Bhor: I'd seen that but I'm not 100% sure if we can do it. Comments now left saying as much
10:26:59 Dinesh_Bhor sfinucan: ok, will wait for others to take a look at it. thanks you so much
10:41:07 cdent johnthetubaguy: if you're willing and able this looks good to go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455710/
10:41:18 cdent or alex_xu
10:49:31 cdent thanks sdague, you're up early
10:53:20 sdague cdent: not that early :)
10:53:33 cdent anything before noon is early to me
10:53:51 sdague cdent: I just went through the devstack nova wsgi patch about what the transition plan needs to be
10:54:04 cdent it's a bit messy...
10:56:32 openstackgerrit Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance-exists notification https://review.openstack.org/403660
10:58:12 openstackgerrit Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.exists notification https://review.openstack.org/403660
10:58:15 cdent i'll need to digest that sdague, I was thinking it might be possible to have grenade from-ocata to switch to uwsgi hosting the api, but I guess there's stuff that's relying on the URL for the API saying the same?
10:59:20 cdent another way to achieve the same thing would be to run uwsgi, but on a port (when in grenade)
10:59:26 cdent (as I've done for the metadata service)
11:00:11 sdague cdent: so in every transition we made here before we've left the configuration the same, we've not modeled a transition between 2 different service modes
11:00:56 sdague because I think that's really a post upgrade decision. Get onto the new code, then transition from one run mode to the other.
11:02:10 cdent yeah, I've never understood that because that means two events that are effectively upgrades. If I were deploying I'd change both at the same time (assuming some out of band testing beforehand)
11:07:19 sdague cdent: I wouldn't. I would validate the same configuration path worked as before before changing that out.
11:08:44 cdent different strokes. but that's fine. I'll have to stick a lot of stuff back into lib/nova, but that's also fine.
11:23:11 jaypipes *yawn*
11:23:13 jaypipes morning.
11:24:17 ralonsoh jaypipes: good morning. Flash question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451777/6/nova/objects/pci_device_pool.py
11:24:34 ralonsoh jaypipes: do we need to bump the version of an object if the parent is updated?
11:24:51 jaypipes ralonsoh: no
11:24:54 ralonsoh thanks
11:25:06 jaypipes ralonsoh: flash answer :)
11:25:08 ralonsoh that's all, enjoy your coffee
11:25:14 jaypipes hehe
11:41:43 jaypipes moshele: mornin. just approved the hw-tc-offload os-vif patch. excellent work on that.
11:42:23 moshele jaypipes: thanks :)
12:45:34 alex_xu nova api meeting is in 15 mins at #openstack-meeting-4
12:50:55 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova master: numa: fix an uninitialized local variable https://review.openstack.org/458848
12:52:21 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/os-vif master: Require OVS 2.8 (presumed) and kernel 4.8 for offload https://review.openstack.org/460093
12:52:22 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/os-vif master: Standardize README https://review.openstack.org/460094
12:53:04 sfinucan jaypipes. moshele: noddy doc fixes ye should check out ^
12:53:14 sfinucan sean-k-mooney too ^
12:53:30 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: about your comments here, I am just quoting from the api-ref, which seemed the correct thing to do: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459711/3
12:55:33 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: Yup, I get your reasoning. I'd rather have it "correct" in one place myself but I'm not too worried to hold it up on that
12:55:47 sfinucan the reno/left over vars were what the hold up was for
12:56:07 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: left over vars? I thought that was the other patch
12:56:25 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: I might be mixing up patches. Oops
12:56:35 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: no worries, I keep doing that too
12:57:37 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: my grammar is fairly terrible, so they all read the same to me, I just don't want to flip flop between different wordings
12:58:03 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: Hmm, could I be super-nitty and ask you to fix it? :/
12:58:07 sfinucan I can do it too
12:58:17 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: I can fix it up, thats fine
12:58:26 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: just wanted to be sure thats the way you want it
12:58:41 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: Ideally, yes :)
12:58:47 sfinucan I tend to write those things in imperative mood, present tense
12:58:51 sfinucan like a command
12:58:59 sfinucan ditto for commit message, fwiw ;)
13:00:19 alex_xu nova api meeting is running
13:00:59 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: yeah, I don't really know the difference really, never got taught any of that, except a small amount in french and german, its kinda frustraighting they culled all that for a few years over here, I should probably go back and read up on all that at some point.
13:01:55 kashyap johnthetubaguy: Git itself uses the "imperative mood"
13:02:03 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Sensibly wrap policy help messages https://review.openstack.org/460097
13:02:20 kashyap Merge branch 'blah'
13:02:22 sfinucan johnthetubaguy, sdague: You were asking for this ^
13:02:24 sfinucan ?
13:02:30 kashyap (Revert "Foo", etc)
13:02:51 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: I don't know where I learnt it, though I'm guessing school
13:03:10 kashyap Speaking of grammar, /me _just_ gave a "level-3" exam of his 4th language, Dutch
13:03:34 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: yeah, its stuff they brought back in just after I left school, I believe
13:03:34 kashyap And _just_ managed to pass (52% in writing; 71.% marks in speaking)
13:04:02 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: We did things like cursive writing (? the one where you join letters etc.) in England, but I don't recall them teaching any of that in Ireland :/
13:04:23 mriedem alex_xu: api meeting?
13:04:27 sfinucan My siblings' writing is absolutely awful
13:04:34 sfinucan mriedem: Yup, openstack-meeting-4
13:04:51 mriedem cursive is old news
13:04:59 sfinucan kashyap: Congrats, dude :) That's outrageously impressive
13:05:10 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: oh, funky, they did a slightly strange course at mine I think, missed out the useful bits!
13:05:20 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: I don't remember its name now
13:05:47 kashyap sfinucan: Duh, that 52% in writing was danglingly close! The goddmaned thing trips me up is the "inversion" (which is same in Dutch and German)
13:05:52 kashyap E.g: "If I am sick, I go to the doctor", it becomes: "If I am sick, go I to the doctor"
13:05:57 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: I blame Thatcher
13:06:04 sfinucan Always blame Thatcher
13:07:11 kashyap sfinucan: But yeah, not complaining; tomorrow night (right after work) starts my level-4 -- "maintain the momentum" :P
13:07:13 sfinucan kashyap: It's be "If I sick am", no?
13:07:13 sdague sfinucan: yeh, though is that going to destroy intentional formatting?
13:07:34 kashyap sfinucan: That, too!
13:07:37 sfinucan i.e. Wenn ich krank bin,
13:07:39 sfinucan ...
13:07:54 sfinucan yada yada random guttural words

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