| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-04-25 | |||
| 06:55:54 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for limits endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/458805 | |
| 06:55:55 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | |
| 07:14:44 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.43 - List/Show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430839 | |
| 07:14:48 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.43 - List/Show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430839 | |
| 07:25:24 | zioproto | dansmith: hello | |
| 07:25:36 | zioproto | you around | |
| 07:25:38 | zioproto | ? | |
| 07:45:48 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for limits endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/458805 | |
| 07:46:10 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for hosts endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459231 | |
| 07:47:31 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | |
| 07:49:00 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1684861 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Mitaka -> Newton: Database online_data_migrations in newton fail due to missing keypairs" [Undecided,Invalid] | |
| 07:49:00 | zioproto | dansmith: have a look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1684861/comments/4 | |
| 07:49:39 | openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(2) https://review.openstack.org/459569 | |
| 08:33:09 | zioproto | hello I have a question on the nova datamodel | |
| 08:33:31 | zioproto | is possible to have an instance in the table instances, but there is no corresponding entry in the table instance_extra ? | |
| 08:36:50 | bauzas | p!spy | |
| 08:37:36 | zioproto | bauzas: ? | |
| 08:38:10 | bauzas | zioproto: https://anticdent.org/purple-irc-bot.html | |
| 08:38:39 | bauzas | zioproto: oh, about the question about instance_extra ? | |
| 08:57:52 | zioproto | no no the spy thing :) | |
| 08:58:07 | openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(3) https://review.openstack.org/459593 | |
| 08:58:49 | cdent | bauzas, zioproto you can also do it in a private message to purplerbot, then nobody has to see you ego surfing. If you do that then you need to include the channel | |
| 09:00:03 | huanxie | Hi all, could you help review my fix on live migration problem with XS7.1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439960/ , thanks a lot | |
| 09:11:00 | openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | |
| 09:20:22 | openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | |
| 09:40:16 | openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | |
| 10:13:35 | stian__ | Why is there two seperate databases for nova? Eg. nova and nova_api? | |
| 10:26:07 | bauzas | stian__: see https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/cells.html#proposal for explanations | |
| 10:26:21 | stian__ | thanks | |
| 10:28:28 | openstackgerrit | fengzhr proposed openstack/nova master: Modify the description of flat_injected in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/458789 | |
| 10:37:56 | BobBall | mikal: That's weird - not seen that before. pool_states is clearly in the code tree. It's also curious that http://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/66/459166/1/check/dsvm-tempest-neutron-network/13ee311/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz fails for Citrix CI but not for Jenkins?? | |
| 10:40:27 | openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Claims in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/437424 | |
| 10:47:10 | asettle | cdent: you pinged yesterday? | |
| 10:47:53 | asettle | Ah, more install guide shenanigans | |
| 10:48:00 | cdent | asettle: I was invoking you in a discussion about the install guide docs for placement and the bug that Br[yi]an made the other day | |
| 10:48:18 | asettle | Hahhaha Brian :p | |
| 10:48:26 | asettle | Yes, just reading scroll back | |
| 10:48:29 | asettle | Jeez this never ends hey | |
| 10:48:33 | cdent | indeed | |
| 10:48:46 | asettle | I'm thinking we just scrap cells and placements and everythign and just have nothing and then there can be no complaints | |
| 10:48:47 | asettle | perfect. | |
| 10:48:57 | cdent | my late father in law is a Bryan so I try not to assume :) | |
| 10:49:10 | asettle | Of course :) | |
| 10:50:28 | cdent | as usual I think the fundamental problem here was lack of communication between nova-people, docs-people and packaging-people. and what communication did happen was a-b-c instead of everyone to everyone | |
| 10:50:47 | openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | |
| 10:52:31 | asettle | cdent: awesome -.- | |
| 10:52:32 | openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | |
| 10:53:07 | cdent | asettle: quite | |
| 10:53:51 | asettle | Ahhhh weeellllllll | |
| 10:55:16 | johnthetubaguy | cdent: its amazing how well we manage to avoid / miss / stop everyone <-> everyone communication :( | |
| 10:56:03 | cdent | johnthetubaguy: yes. I would argue it is because we've decome to dependent on IRC (and thus synchrony) and that leaves everyone that's not there out | |
| 10:56:29 | cdent | decome is an interesting word that I think I will use more often, once I figure out what it means | |
| 10:56:35 | asettle | I could probably easily see that happening. Sadly, it's easy to become insular even when you're trying to be open. | |
| 10:56:46 | johnthetubaguy | cdent: yeah, I think you are right, I was reflect on that doing the "making us more global" doc | |
| 10:56:48 | asettle | cdent: it fits perfectly. Makes you look smart. | |
| 10:56:52 | asettle | I'm a writer, I should know. | |
| 10:57:37 | cdent | A writer™ | |
| 10:58:02 | zioproto | dansmith: ping ? | |
| 10:58:06 | johnthetubaguy | cdent: something like relaying on tribal knowledge, and IRC as a way to get hold of it? | |
| 10:58:18 | cdent | pretty much | |
| 10:58:19 | asettle | cdent: I should get a shirt with that. | |
| 10:58:39 | cdent | asettle: the number of t-shirt ideas I've had going in to this summit has been _huge_ | |
| 10:58:44 | johnthetubaguy | zioproto: as a head up, he is on the west coast of the US, although he does tend to get on IRC quite early | |
| 10:58:45 | cdent | but I've failed to execute on any of them | |
| 10:58:54 | asettle | The best one I have for the moment is "Worked in devstack. Docs problem now." | |
| 10:58:57 | johnthetubaguy | cdent: need one of the velcro t-shirts | |
| 10:58:59 | asettle | Which is hilarious and horrifically sad. | |
| 10:59:26 | cdent | asettle: and sadly is pretty much exactly the problem that we started the conversation with | |
| 10:59:34 | asettle | Yes. Basically. | |
| 10:59:39 | asettle | ANd here we are, two months later. | |
| 11:00:05 | cdent | we'll figure it out, but it make take a while | |
| 11:00:05 | asettle | Ah well, now I hang out more often in the nova channel than I like to admit | |
| 11:00:42 | johnthetubaguy | I was talking through an idea on those deployment docs... could we pull out the packages and add in pip install, and let the package folks replace the bits they don't need | |
| 11:01:07 | johnthetubaguy | I am thinking make docs in a way developers think, but re-use them for the packages | |
| 11:01:13 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: don't get me started on that convo dude. I don't disagree with you one bit, but there is more people out there using the package docs than you would like to believe. | |
| 11:01:17 | johnthetubaguy | now I am not sure its feasible... | |
| 11:01:26 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: doesn't work like that. Developers don't think the way that our users and operators do. | |
| 11:01:32 | johnthetubaguy | asettle: right, not saying we don't need the package docs | |
| 11:01:40 | asettle | That is very apparent from the complete disconnection between the communities. | |
| 11:01:59 | johnthetubaguy | asettle: oh, very much so, but I packages are keeping us apart here | |
| 11:02:00 | cdent | I wonder, given the constriction in contributors, if package-related docs isn't the problem of the distros. In upstream we install from git or pip? | |
| 11:02:10 | johnthetubaguy | cdent: thats where I am thinking | |
| 11:02:24 | sdague | johnthetubaguy: there is a big problem with that, in that python doesn't handle a bunch of constructs natively that you need for system packages | |
| 11:02:30 | cdent | it's also aligned with the large swathes of people who puppet or ansible | |
| 11:02:32 | sdague | like CONF_DIR or SHARE_DIR | |
| 11:02:32 | zioproto | johnthetubaguy: thanks ! | |
| 11:02:39 | asettle | Hmm. To be honest, I don't know. Might be a able to find out johnthetubaguy and cdent | |
| 11:02:42 | johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I mean theres a lot of hand rolling needed | |
| 11:03:03 | johnthetubaguy | like I say, it totally may not be feasible, but it keeps coming up | |
| 11:03:11 | johnthetubaguy | I think the output has to be package docs, thats what the users needs | |
| 11:03:26 | johnthetubaguy | I am really thinking about how we get something in between thats closer to devs | |
| 11:03:26 | asettle | Well, I mean, it all comes down to this though - even if we decide to go a different route with the docs, we need the peoople to do it, which - we do not have., | |
| 11:03:48 | cdent | asettle: yeah | |
| 11:03:51 | sdague | johnthetubaguy: I guess I'm coming in late, what's the current issue? | |
| 11:03:52 | johnthetubaguy | asettle: very true, the bootstrap of any of these needs people | |
| 11:03:57 | asettle | I would love to say that this conversation can really go somewhere this release, but I can't guarantee anything. I just lost 4 cores including myself (in theory) | |
| 11:04:06 | johnthetubaguy | sdague: we suck at updating the package docs | |
| 11:04:21 | asettle | johnthetubaguy: Okay can you please write that on a piece of paper and sign that and send it to me? I'dl ike to frame that :p | |
| 11:04:57 | cdent | another option, which is dire, but may represent the reality of lack of people: don't do docs | |
| 11:04:58 | johnthetubaguy | asettle: sure | |