| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-03-06 | |||
| 17:25:39 | mriedem | so, ibm pulled out from translating log messages and now they just don't care, | |
| 17:25:55 | mriedem | from what i remember, i18n of the non-debug log messages was a product priority for ibm several years ago, | |
| 17:26:04 | dansmith | yep | |
| 17:26:06 | mriedem | i.e. ibm products based on openstack required log translation | |
| 17:26:18 | mriedem | so rather than do all of that in-house, we pushed and pushed those teams to upstream the translation work | |
| 17:26:23 | mriedem | now i guess they have dropped out | |
| 17:26:25 | mriedem | so no one cares anymore | |
| 17:26:36 | dansmith | so wait, just to be clear.. 1. PowerVM 1.0, 2. DB@, 3. Log translation.. do I have that right? :) | |
| 17:26:50 | dansmith | heh, DB2 I mean | |
| 17:27:08 | mriedem | i think most ibm products would also have specific codes for errors/warnings/info in user-facing or translated messages | |
| 17:27:19 | mriedem | so the problem of identifying an error on the internet just involves the code | |
| 17:28:30 | cdent | you seen this mriedem? http://172.99.106.155/exceptions/#/ | |
| 17:28:47 | mriedem | nope | |
| 17:28:50 | cdent | (tangentially related) | |
| 17:29:05 | cdent | something ediardo has been working on | |
| 17:29:33 | cdent | with an eye to perhaps connecting it to the links that ought to show up in the structured error responses | |
| 17:29:40 | ediardo | o. | |
| 17:29:44 | ediardo | o/ | |
| 17:30:24 | openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova master: Implement interface attach/detach in ironic virt driver https://review.openstack.org/419975 | |
| 17:35:30 | ediardo | Hi cdent! | |
| 17:39:25 | mriedem | sdague: dansmith: replied on that dev ML thread on the i18n stuff. i don't care too much either way, but i will be super annoyed if in a year some workgroup comes back and says they want those again now. | |
| 17:39:51 | mriedem | or are pissed that they were dropped without adequate warning | |
| 17:40:10 | mriedem | edmondsw: powervc might actually care about that ^ | |
| 17:40:17 | dansmith | *nod* | |
| 17:40:38 | ediardo | The demo in the link above has class names that help users to search for specific errors/warnings found in logs | |
| 17:40:38 | mriedem | edmondsw: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113383.html | |
| 17:41:02 | ediardo | classnames are the same, messages could be translated but the classname stays the same | |
| 17:44:54 | dansmith | is it just me or is the flood of garbage before a test run getting worse lately? | |
| 17:57:17 | openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/cells/test_cells_manager.py https://review.openstack.org/399036 | |
| 17:59:10 | mriedem | dansmith: i think you need a new blog post that explains soft delete | |
| 17:59:36 | mriedem | and all of the different meanings that term has :) | |
| 18:01:05 | dansmith | mriedem: hah | |
| 18:17:26 | johnthetubaguy | dansmith: melwitt: I think the ops folks were wanting some help with this session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-cellsv2 | |
| 18:17:37 | johnthetubaguy | I haven't managed to track down why its happening | |
| 18:18:01 | mriedem | what is that for? | |
| 18:18:06 | dansmith | is that for some meetup/ | |
| 18:18:13 | johnthetubaguy | thats the ops thing in milan, next week I think | |
| 18:18:23 | johnthetubaguy | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | |
| 18:18:28 | johnthetubaguy | has the extra info | |
| 18:19:04 | dansmith | okay but what sort of help? | |
| 18:19:12 | mriedem | is someone moderating that session? | |
| 18:19:14 | mriedem | on cells v2? | |
| 18:19:25 | mriedem | 3/16 at 9:40am | |
| 18:19:47 | dansmith | italy time? | |
| 18:19:52 | mriedem | i reckon | |
| 18:20:13 | johnthetubaguy | mrhillsman will know whats going on with that | |
| 18:20:28 | johnthetubaguy | yeah, italy (and France) time | |
| 18:20:52 | mriedem | i'll ask in operators | |
| 18:20:58 | johnthetubaguy | I offered to try and remote in somehow, should there be no other option for Nova representation | |
| 18:21:32 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: there is a live-migration one as well | |
| 18:21:49 | johnthetubaguy | one of the OSIC folks testing it was going to moderate that one | |
| 18:22:06 | mriedem | no one has reached out for help from the nova team on this, at least not me | |
| 18:22:15 | mriedem | so i don't know what level of coordination is expected for the ops meetup | |
| 18:22:21 | mriedem | or if it's ops people self-moderating | |
| 18:22:35 | mriedem | but i thought the forum was where the nova team talks about the new fancy stuff to the ops people | |
| 18:22:57 | mriedem | i assume a live migration session at the ops meetup is about info sharing | |
| 18:23:00 | mriedem | best practices, etc | |
| 18:23:14 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I thought that too | |
| 18:23:26 | mriedem | and i doubt anyone there will be new enough to have cells v2 | |
| 18:23:47 | johnthetubaguy | we have previously had Nova folks at most of the ops summits, but a little bit by chance, I did the manchester one, for example | |
| 18:24:01 | mriedem | and sdague was in NY | |
| 18:24:06 | johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah I assumed that too, not sure why | |
| 18:24:08 | mriedem | and melwitt i think | |
| 18:24:20 | mriedem | well this is kind of last minute | |
| 18:24:25 | johnthetubaguy | yeah | |
| 18:24:40 | mriedem | cells v2 is going to be presented at the summit, | |
| 18:24:55 | mriedem | dansmith has a talk for it specifically, and i will be bringing it up in my talk about the new and notable in ocata | |
| 18:24:57 | johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats the right way to get that info | |
| 18:25:14 | johnthetubaguy | I duno what they want from the cells v2 session | |
| 18:25:21 | mriedem | i'm ignoring the fact that some operators are probably not going to be going to the summit b/c they traded for the ops meetup or PTG | |
| 18:25:42 | johnthetubaguy | the videos help some | |
| 18:26:46 | mriedem | sure, i just read an article from the register last night that linked to alaski's talk on cells v2 in austin | |
| 18:28:29 | mriedem | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/01/under_octata_deep_dive/ | |
| 18:28:31 | mriedem | oh octata | |
| 18:28:39 | mriedem | the release that was | |
| 18:29:07 | mriedem | also, side note, but i'm a bit worried about the amount of unicorn promises made in ^ about what you can do with placement in octata | |
| 18:29:13 | mriedem | jaypipes: you might find ^ interesting | |
| 18:29:46 | mriedem | they jumped the gun on qualitative traits-based scheduling by at least a release | |
| 18:30:02 | cdent | youch | |
| 18:30:47 | cdent | let's play startup: any press is better than no press | |
| 18:31:00 | mriedem | plus it's press for alaski | |
| 18:31:11 | mriedem | i also noticed "The Cola lifecycle management environment" | |
| 18:31:15 | mriedem | i wonder if that was meant to be kolla | |
| 18:31:39 | jaypipes | mriedem: that's what happens when you interview non-ATCs about technical stuff. | |
| 18:31:55 | cdent | "lifecycle management environment" | |
| 18:31:57 | cdent | that's a lovely phrase | |
| 18:32:17 | mriedem | you don't have to pick between slicing or dicing anymore | |
| 18:32:24 | cdent | \o/ | |
| 18:32:50 | alaski | oh man. I don't want people watching me speak | |
| 18:33:28 | cdent | hope you had a clean shirt | |
| 18:33:49 | mriedem | he looked great | |
| 18:34:36 | cdent | of course he did | |
| 18:37:55 | dims_ | go alaski ! | |
| 18:41:29 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Detach volumes on _rebuild_default_impl failure https://review.openstack.org/442105 | |
| 18:42:12 | mriedem | jgriffith: you should take a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304715/13/specs/pike/approved/scaleio-ephemeral-storage-backend.rst@73 | |
| 18:42:27 | openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/cells/test_cells_manager.py https://review.openstack.org/399036 | |
| 18:42:29 | jgriffith | mriedem looking | |
| 18:42:34 | jgriffith | oh dear | |
| 18:42:34 | mriedem | jgriffith: that's saying it's going to take 2-3 releases to add a cinder imagebackend to nova | |
| 18:42:43 | mriedem | and because of that, we shouldn't wait on adding the scaleio imagebackend | |