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#openstack-nova - 2017-02-03
19:52:51 figleaf (which is what we should have done from the outset)
19:52:53 johnthetubaguy figleaf: if it were not 7.50pm, sure
19:53:25 johnthetubaguy basically, we start with updating the inventory
19:53:37 johnthetubaguy then we have to check if the allocations match what should be in the inventory
19:53:49 johnthetubaguy thats not the case if its new, or we are hitting the upgrade bump
19:54:02 johnthetubaguy in that case we need to fix up the allocations, thats all good
19:54:12 johnthetubaguy but there is no need to update the inventory, its already been done
19:55:05 figleaf johnthetubaguy: so you're saying that they inventory always has to be correct? IOW, it's always the allocations that are out of whack?
19:55:30 johnthetubaguy I am saying the inventory is always updated before we update the allocations
19:58:16 figleaf johnthetubaguy: that could well be the case
19:58:36 figleaf johnthetubaguy: I think leakypipes must have trying the belts and braces approach
20:01:07 figleaf johnthetubaguy: the part I'm not clear on is where all the calls to RT._update_usage_from_instance() can be made, and whether those paths always update inventory first
20:01:34 cfriesen is there a writeup of the as-implemented behaviour for resource providers, or are the specs/code all there is currently?
20:03:01 mriedem didn't markus_z have a burndown chart somewhere for the config option cleanup work?
20:03:09 figleaf cfriesen: There have been several excellent posts to the ML by cdent
20:03:36 cfriesen figleaf: just saw his most recent one
20:04:35 figleaf cfriesen: but the fact that those of us working on it are still a little fuzzy about the edge cases is a good sign that we need to do something more
20:05:42 mriedem http://45.55.105.55:8082/config-options.html
20:14:10 dtp thanks mriedem superdan. left my comments on that review
20:14:22 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add step-by-step examples for Cells V2 setup https://review.openstack.org/427981
20:15:41 melwitt darn it, didn't see dtp's comments a minute ago
20:15:54 dtp we were very close :)
20:17:27 mriedem macsz: sfinucan: if you have open config option cleanup changes, move them to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/centralize-config-options-pike please
20:17:55 macsz mriedem: i will move every single patch that is left
20:18:01 mriedem thanks
20:18:56 macsz mriedem can you re-assign me to it?
20:19:17 mriedem sure
20:19:22 macsz thanks
20:21:23 EmilienM mriedem: do you have a CI job that test Nova API deployed with SSL?
20:21:51 EmilienM I couldn't find one
20:22:05 EmilienM gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-ubuntu-xenial seems to deploy non-ssl
20:22:19 mriedem EmilienM: dane-fichter and the john hopkins gang was working on creating a security-specific dsvm job that tests with that plus all of the other security features like signed images and using barbican as the key manager
20:22:32 mriedem but that's not done, and honestly i don't know the status of it right now
20:22:45 EmilienM ok
20:22:54 EmilienM because I found a bug, I'll probably report it
20:23:11 mriedem ok
20:25:39 mriedem EmilienM: so on your multinode nonha job, is that running in the same nodepool as the rest of infra or a special subset?
20:26:00 EmilienM mriedem: same
20:26:20 mriedem ok
20:26:54 EmilienM mriedem: I really see a value of using TripleO jobs here. We are testing SSL, IPv6, (WSGI but will be removed today), and all of that for free
20:29:31 EmilienM mriedem: is there something that you don't like in this idea?
20:30:03 EmilienM I might be wrong but I see some resistance that we didn't have with other projects
20:31:07 mriedem EmilienM: well i'm a bit distracted with other things right now
20:31:13 mriedem but also,
20:31:18 mriedem and i know this isn't voting right now,
20:31:50 mriedem but right now, devs have a reasonable shot at making changes in devstack to get things through nova that depend on devstack, but that learning curve gets higher if they have to touch devestack-gate or project-config or grenade,
20:32:02 mriedem adding this means to get things in nova done, they now have to learn a whole new set of tools,
20:32:08 mriedem i for one don't know puppet or ruby
20:32:35 mriedem i've learned to monkey my way through devstack and it's bashtasticness over the last 4 years that i'm able to sort of know what i'm doing,
20:32:39 mriedem until sdague hits me and tells me i'm wrong
20:32:55 EmilienM I don't think we asked Nova team to learn about TripleO or did we?
20:33:05 EmilienM what we ask is to tell us when that job is failing
20:33:16 EmilienM because we think it can provide useful feedback
20:33:17 mriedem no, but if we have changes that require deployment tooling changes to move forward, we can do that in devstack today
20:33:28 mriedem yeah i mean there will be a lot of hand-holding at the least
20:34:04 mriedem and it opens a door for the horde of other deployment projects (kolla, ansible, whatever else since fuel/chef/salt are dead i think)
20:34:14 superdan mriedem: are you cool with getting some stuff like this into rc2? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/
20:34:17 superdan or do you want to hold off
20:34:24 superdan we could backport too, but I think it should be in the ocata packages
20:34:35 mriedem superdan: i think docs are fine
20:34:44 superdan okay, agree
20:35:59 mriedem EmilienM: anyway you asked so those are the considerations, and which is why i'm not jumping on this right away
20:36:07 mriedem plus it's been a hectic week and i'm getting burned out
20:37:29 EmilienM mriedem: ok, let's talk about it next time you have free cycles.
21:05:45 cmartin Hey quick question about the upcoming PTG in Atlanta, roughly what time will the conference hours be? particularly on friday? I am trying to book my flight home after the conference ends on friday but am unsure what times I can select for the flight
21:06:19 mriedem i assume things start at 9am?
21:06:22 mriedem dhellmann: ^?
21:06:46 mriedem cmartin: by friday afternoon (after lunch) people are usually pretty spent on a week like this,
21:06:53 mriedem so not a ton happens on friday afternoon
21:07:06 dhellmann that's my assumption, too, but I don't know for sure. ttx would, but he's offline today due to travel.
21:07:44 cmartin mriedem: I see, so a flight in the afternoon should be fine?
21:07:49 mriedem cmartin: yup
21:07:57 superdan cmartin: you'll be begging to leave by then
21:07:58 cmartin mriedem: thanks that is what I needed to know!
21:08:17 cmartin mriedem: lol we will see, but it will be nice to go back home and sleep in my own bed
21:18:14 EmilienM mriedem: so when I disable wsgi, multinode job is passing :-)
21:18:25 EmilienM mriedem: I'll check baremetal jobs how it goes
21:18:27 mriedem EmilienM: yeah because of the service version thing
21:18:32 EmilienM awesome
21:22:20 cburgess @superdan lol
21:22:41 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: resolved final todos in libvirt conf https://review.openstack.org/429042
21:23:18 superdan cburgess: what?
21:24:00 cburgess superdan It was just funny your statement about begging to leave. I don't know why. Probably years of seeing the look on your face by Friday afternoons.
21:24:23 superdan cburgess: oh, heh, yeah
21:24:44 cburgess superdan I was trying to come up with something witty about Dan wanting to stab people by Friday afternoon but I failed.
21:25:17 cburgess With regard to PTG, are we planning any time of team dinner like we have done in the past?
21:25:46 superdan cburgess: heh
21:26:48 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: deprecate key_manager.fixed _key opt https://review.openstack.org/428992
21:27:22 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: WIP conf: remove invalid TODOs https://review.openstack.org/428811
21:28:15 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate two more nova-net options https://review.openstack.org/412390
21:29:03 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Resolve TODOs in 'database' https://review.openstack.org/393695
21:30:21 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: add min parameter to scheduler opts https://review.openstack.org/428355
21:30:50 openstackgerrit Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova master: conf: resolved TODOs in compute configuration https://review.openstack.org/426793
21:30:58 mriedem cburgess: like team dinner from the midcycles?
21:31:04 cburgess Yeah
21:31:15 mriedem hmm, the midcycles are usually somewhere where the host person knows where to go...
21:31:16 cburgess Granted those are semi planned anyways.
21:31:19 mriedem right
21:31:26 mriedem it's always like last minute
21:31:26 melwitt superdan: based on dtp-afk's questions, I'm wondering what the right thing to do for cells v1 is at this point. when they map hosts, how do they pick which cell database to pull them from?

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