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#openstack-cyborg - 2019-08-14
02:59:53 openstackgerrit Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Notify Nova when binding finished https://review.opendev.org/674520
03:01:14 Sundar Hi Yumeng
03:01:33 Yumeng Hi Sundar
03:01:44 Yumeng hi all
03:01:45 Sundar Let's wait for a couple of minutes.
03:01:49 Yumeng ok
03:03:00 wangzhh Hi all.
03:03:08 Sundar Hi wangzhh
03:03:18 Sundar #startmeeting openstack-cyborg
03:03:19 openstack Meeting started Wed Aug 14 03:03:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sundar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
03:03:20 openstack Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
03:03:21 wangzhh Hi Sundar.
03:03:22 openstack The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg'
03:03:30 Sundar #topic Roll call
03:03:40 Sundar o/
03:03:57 Yumeng #info Yumeng
03:03:59 wangzhh #info wangzhh
03:04:17 Sundar Seems like thin attendance today, at least to start with
03:04:38 Sundar #topic New time for weekly IRC meeting
03:04:50 xinranwang #info xinranwang
03:05:08 Yumeng hi xinran
03:05:16 xinranwang Hi all :)
03:05:56 Sundar We did a Doodle poll to pick the best time for al: https://doodle.com/poll/6t279f9y6msztz7x
03:06:59 Sundar There were 2 slots with 6 votes each. I pinged Shaohe and Coco individually. Both agreed on Thu 11 am China time.
03:07:16 yikun #info yikun
03:07:23 Sundar Any objections to choosing that as the new time?
03:08:40 Sundar Since no objections were raised, I'll send a notice. From next week onwards, this is the new meeting time.
03:09:03 Sundar #topic os-acc discontinuance
03:10:31 Sundar A patch was filed to fix Python 3 issues in os-acc. To avoid such hassles, I propose to discontinue os-acc. If there are no objections, I'll start the process of retiring the repository right away.
03:10:37 Sundar Are there any objections?
03:12:03 Sundar Since no objections were raised, I'll send a message in openstack-discuss and start the process.
03:12:37 Sundar We are following the agenda in: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CyborgTeamMeeting#Agenda
03:12:55 Sundar Since we don't have NTT folks here today, we'll jump ahead by one topic.
03:13:02 Sundar #topic Tempest CI
03:14:11 Sundar Our (my?) current plan is to kick off tempest with the fake driver for Nova patches and tempest with real FPGA hardware for Cyborg patches. Do you think we should both types of CI for both kinds of patches?
03:14:44 Sundar Yumeng, wangzhh, xinranwang, yikun: ^
03:17:06 Sundar Pretty silent group today :)
03:18:07 wangzhh Thinking...
03:19:15 wangzhh Does nova guys agree with only tempest with real hardware?
03:19:43 Sundar Nova wants the fake driver tempest primarily.
03:20:08 Sundar Cyborg may also want the same.
03:20:15 yikun the real device driver is implemented as the 3rd party ci?
03:20:30 Sundar Yumeng: Yes, for Intel FPGAs
03:20:42 Sundar Sorry, yikun :)
03:21:14 Yumeng for the real FPGA hardware for Cyborg patches, we mainly use it to test the discover and report part, while for the fake driver for Nova patches, we mainly use it to test the attach_detach part,right ?
03:21:15 yikun OK, no objection from me, I think it's same as the original plan, isn't it?
03:21:47 wangzhh Uh-huh, it's better to imply them one by one, fake driver first?
03:22:07 Sundar It was not clear to me that we agreed on fake driver tempest for Cyborg patches too. If so, do we need to file a new patch for that?
03:23:17 Sundar Yumeng: The fake driver part will test the whole flow from Nova till Cyborg agent, using the fake driver. WHile 3p CI with real hardware will ensure real FPGA driver and functionality like programming are not broken
03:24:27 Sundar wangzhh: Agreed - let's start with fake driver for both. We will have 3p CI going for Cyborg 'soon'.
03:24:56 xinranwang I consider the fake driver is a solution for nova-side requirements, it mainly aims at nova-cyborg interaction.
03:26:13 Sundar xinranwang: When we submit a Cyborg patch, we want to ensure that does not break Nova-Cyborg interaction either.
03:26:43 Sundar Nova requirements are the forcing function, but it helps to have it for Cyborg too, right?
03:28:27 xinranwang So we will always keep it, even if we finished the 3p CI?
03:30:19 Sundar Are you advocating that we do only the 3p CI for Cyborg? That would be the minimum.
03:31:07 Sundar That is what I have currently planned for. Just checking in with all of you.
03:31:28 xinranwang No, I just want make sure the fake driver is a long term solution or not.
03:33:10 Sundar OK. The minimum for Nova is fake-driver. The minimum for Cyborg, IMHO, is 3p CI with real hardware. As long as the hardware setup is always available and functional, we don't need the fake driver tempest for Cyborg. Are we all aligned on that?
03:35:18 Sundar wangzhh, yikun, Yumeng, xinranwang: ^
03:35:24 xinranwang Agree with you
03:35:47 wangzhh Agree +1
03:36:08 Yumeng yes,agree with that.
03:37:00 Sundar Great, we have a quorum. Let's stick with the minimum for Train and build on it later, if needed
03:37:36 Sundar #agreed Will implement only fake-driver tempest for Nova patches and 3p CI with Intel FPGA for Cyborg patches in Train.
03:37:45 Sundar Yumeng: Can you update https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670999/ to reflect the comments? i.e. mark it as WIP, and place a dependency on my patch series?
03:38:18 Yumeng ok,np
03:38:23 Sundar Thanks
03:38:31 Sundar #topic Storyboard tasks
03:38:52 Sundar There are 3 important tasks: RBAC, Cyborg functional tests, Nova functional tests that mock Cyborg API
03:39:48 Sundar For RBAC, can any of you sign up? It is important for security. Our common/policy.py is all for v1 API. But it needs to be fixed for v2.
03:41:15 Sundar wangzhh or yikun: Will be ideal if one of you can pick up :) because Yumeng and Xinran have chosen other activities
03:42:27 wangzhh I can take policy releated work next week.
03:42:38 Sundar Excellent, wangzhh. Thanks :)
03:42:50 wangzhh Np :)
03:43:47 Sundar Nova functional tests that mock Cyborg API: I think we need this to be done for the Nova patches to merge.
03:44:14 Sundar Nobody has raised this yet but I remember this from PTG.
03:44:44 Sundar yikun: If this is a game of musical chairs, you are the last person left. :)
03:47:50 Sundar OK, no pressure. We need to revisit this later.
03:47:58 Sundar #topic AoB
03:48:17 Sundar Please note that the IRC meeting time shifts next week as agreed.
03:49:08 Sundar Python 3 is super-important for Train. Apparently, Cyborg missed adding Py3 tests, which was a goal in Pike release.
03:50:59 Sundar If we make Python 3 job as a voting job, we have to expend work now to keep it all fixed. If we make it a non-voting job, there is a risk because there is apparently a plan to disable all py27 testing early in next cycle.
03:51:33 Sundar wangzhh, Yumeng, xinranwang, yikun: what do you favor?
03:53:00 xinranwang It depends on how much time we left. But I do know there's some bugs need to fix when i run py3 tests.
03:54:04 Sundar If we have time, we also have Cyborg functional tests to do -- basic for good quality.
03:54:48 xinranwang those are all nice to have. Let's focus on critical path.
03:55:13 xinranwang We need more review on nova-cyborg integ patches and placement report patch.
03:56:53 Sundar Yes. IIUC, you are suggesting to keep Python 3 jobs as no-voting for now and make them voting in the next cycle, right?
03:58:32 xinranwang Yes, after we finish the important things, if we have more time, we can work on it in this release as well, but it's not obligate. That's my suggestion :)
03:58:52 Sundar Got it. Any objections?
03:59:28 Sundar Any objections from wangzhh, yikun, Yumeng?
03:59:55 wangzhh Fine with me.
04:00:17 Sundar OK, let's go with that plan.
04:00:29 Sundar Thanks, everybody. Have a good day! Bye.
04:00:32 Sundar #endmeeting
04:00:33 shaohe_feng critical path is high priority
04:00:34 openstack Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 04:00:32 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
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