| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
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| #openstack-cyborg - 2019-05-29 | |||
| 03:03:36 | Sundar__ | #startmeeting openstack-cyborg | |
| 03:03:37 | openstack | Meeting started Wed May 29 03:03:36 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sundar__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |
| 03:03:38 | openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 03:03:40 | openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg' | |
| 03:03:46 | Sundar__ | #topic Roll call | |
| 03:04:17 | Sundar__ | #info Sundar | |
| 03:04:20 | wangzhh | #info wangzhh | |
| 03:04:36 | ikuo_ | #info ikuo_ | |
| 03:04:49 | Sundar__ | #topic Agenda | |
| 03:04:52 | Sundar__ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CyborgTeamMeeting | |
| 03:04:53 | Coco_gao | #info Coco_gao | |
| 03:05:05 | Sundar__ | Anything to add to this agenda? | |
| 03:05:36 | Sundar__ | #topic Nova spec update | |
| 03:05:41 | ikuo_ | It's good | |
| 03:06:29 | Sundar__ | There was a feedback to move the Cyborg binding to Nova compute manager. I implemented it and made some measurements on 1 2-node system, but that doesn't predict scaling impact | |
| 03:07:11 | Sundar__ | Meanwhile, several folks gave that feedback. SO, I have changed the spec to match that | |
| 03:07:22 | Sundar__ | Does anybody have any concerns or comments? | |
| 03:08:17 | Sundar__ | The spec is close to finish, so please provide your comments soon | |
| 03:08:36 | ikuo_ | Where do you mean in the spec? | |
| 03:09:36 | Sundar__ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/603955/13/specs/train/approved/nova-cyborg-interaction.rst,unified Line 240 | |
| 03:10:01 | wangzhh | Fine with me. | |
| 03:10:03 | Sundar__ | Lines 240-263 | |
| 03:10:29 | Sundar__ | Good | |
| 03:10:44 | Sundar__ | #topic python cyborg client | |
| 03:10:54 | Sundar__ | Thanks to ikuo_ for starting http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006543.html | |
| 03:10:55 | yikun | #info yikun | |
| 03:11:02 | Sundar__ | Hope you all had a chance to catch up | |
| 03:11:27 | Coco_gao | still need to some time to catch up, sorry. | |
| 03:11:50 | Sundar__ | Coico_gao, NP. I'll try to summarize. | |
| 03:12:26 | Sundar__ | python-cyborgclient should be rewritten as an OSC plugin or a new repo should be created for that: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006574.html | |
| 03:13:07 | Sundar__ | Dean tTroyer (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006577.html) suggests we could write a plugin to OSC, as part of OSC repo itself. | |
| 03:13:39 | Li_Liu | #info Li_Liu | |
| 03:13:56 | Coco_gao | Thanks for the summay~ | |
| 03:14:00 | ikuo_ | So we should rewrite the whole cyborgclient.. In fact, I cannot imagine the impact. | |
| 03:14:05 | Sundar__ | Either way, it is good for Cyborg to implement OpenStack SDK, so that the client can use it to call the API | |
| 03:14:45 | Sundar__ | First, do we all agree that we should use the OpenStack SDK (independent of other options)? | |
| 03:15:26 | xinranwang | #info xinranwang | |
| 03:15:35 | xinranwang | Hi all, sorry for late | |
| 03:15:56 | ikuo_ | Is it other thing but OSC plugin? | |
| 03:16:24 | Sundar__ | ikuo_ : It seems like a large impact. In practice, current client is mostly v1. So its objects either don't exist (like accelerators) or have changed a lot (like deployables). Plus, there are new pones like device profiles | |
| 03:16:43 | Sundar__ | So, I suspect anyway it will be a big change | |
| 03:16:43 | wangzhh | Sundar, if we rewrite cyborgclient as an OSC plugin, who guys are responsible for the milestone? | |
| 03:17:00 | Coco_gao | Agree to use openstack sdk first. | |
| 03:17:21 | Li_Liu | is this a train target? | |
| 03:17:35 | Sundar__ | wangzhh: Good question, I don't know :). It means we are not in control, as Dean says. Or, we could write our own plugin from scratch -- more work but more control. | |
| 03:17:42 | Sundar__ | Li_Liu: Yes | |
| 03:18:38 | Sundar__ | ikuo_: "Is it other thing but OSC plugin?" <-- OpenStack SDK and OSC plugin are 2 different things | |
| 03:18:50 | Sundar__ | SDK is a way for other services (or cyborg client) to call CYborg API | |
| 03:19:01 | ikuo_ | OK, I agree Use openstack sdk | |
| 03:19:10 | Sundar__ | Whereas OSC plugin is a way to implement the client using standard mechanisms | |
| 03:19:54 | Sundar__ | Coco_gao, ikuo_: Thanks for voting on SDK. Anybody disagrees? | |
| 03:20:31 | wangzhh | Agree SDK +1 | |
| 03:20:37 | Li_Liu | sounds good | |
| 03:20:52 | Sundar__ | Great :) I like consensus :) | |
| 03:21:03 | xinranwang | Agree | |
| 03:22:06 | ikuo_ | But rewriting for OSC plugin by only NTT, it is difficult, I think. | |
| 03:22:50 | Sundar__ | ikuo_: I understand | |
| 03:23:11 | Sundar__ | Now, for the difficult question -- should we write a separate osc plugin (like many other projects have done) or try to make this a part of osc repo? Dean says: "if Cyborg were completely backed by the SDK we would consider adding its commands directly to the OSC repo." | |
| 03:23:37 | Sundar__ | Once we adopt the SDK, may be it gets easier? Plus, I agree others should support NTT | |
| 03:24:16 | wangzhh | ikuo, can u help to split the task on storyboard? | |
| 03:24:45 | Sundar__ | I suspect there will be less UT and functional tests if we use the OSC repo. If there is concern about dependence and timelines, I could ask Dean. | |
| 03:24:56 | Sundar__ | (Or any of you could respond on the ML.) | |
| 03:26:43 | ikuo_ | Wangzhh: so we should split our cyborgclient task to 1) use openstacksdk and 2) OSC plugin /repo? | |
| 03:27:07 | Coco_gao | Maybe more smaller tasks. | |
| 03:28:19 | wangzhh | Coco, Yep. So that others can take part of them to support NTT. | |
| 03:28:35 | ikuo_ | I got it. | |
| 03:29:10 | Coco_gao | I will first finish my part and then join you to finish other tasks. | |
| 03:29:22 | wangzhh | Thx. ikuo_. | |
| 03:29:39 | ikuo_ | All right. thanks. | |
| 03:30:03 | Sundar__ | Sounds like a plan. Should I ask on the ML what is the risk to timeline from using osc repo? | |
| 03:30:21 | ikuo_ | Yes, please! | |
| 03:30:31 | Sundar__ | Will do | |
| 03:30:49 | Coco_gao | Yes | |
| 03:31:01 | Sundar__ | #agreed Cyborg will implement OpenStack SDK. The client will call the API through that | |
| 03:31:26 | Sundar__ | #action Sundar: gets pros and cons of using the osc repo, vs. writing a plugin | |
| 03:31:49 | Coco_gao | BTW, does engineering meeting still exist? | |
| 03:31:51 | Sundar__ | #action: ikuo_ will create storyboard tasks | |
| 03:32:41 | Sundar__ | Coco_gao: We can convene it any time if there is a need. IMHO, it is good to keep it as a placeholder. The networked FPGA stuff is still open | |
| 03:33:00 | Sundar__ | What do you all think? | |
| 03:33:12 | Coco_gao | Sounds good for me. | |
| 03:33:17 | ikuo_ | Yes, we should talk when we need. | |
| 03:33:49 | Sundar__ | OK, thanks | |
| 03:33:57 | Sundar__ | #topic Communication updates | |
| 03:34:26 | Li_Liu | I am still working on the nova's external_event_api patch | |
| 03:34:41 | Sundar__ | As you may know, there are some restrictions on communication, and some of us have been asked not to use WeChat by default | |
| 03:35:17 | Coco_gao | What do you suggest? | |
| 03:35:34 | Li_Liu | lol | |
| 03:35:37 | ikuo_ | Yes, my colleague cannot use WeChat. Thank you for proposing the topic. | |
| 03:35:41 | Sundar__ | It would be good to use IRC and ML by default. For IRC, does it make sense to have a window of time where we all login? For example, it could be morning 9-12 am by CHina time? | |
| 03:35:46 | Li_Liu | I think irc is our only option now | |
| 03:36:07 | Sundar__ | Li_Liu and all: yes | |
| 03:36:19 | Li_Liu | can we still talk in zoom meetings? | |
| 03:36:41 | xinranwang | Sundar__: Hi Sundar, I have pull your pilot branch in local, and find some bugs, for example, we cannot delete extended_arq when deleting vm, and some other. I have done some bug-fix. Do you want me to leave comments where bug occurs , or I can co-author with you if you want. Which way you prefer? | |
| 03:36:59 | Sundar__ | Li_Liu: My guidelines are that public meetings are ok. I have put the Zoom URL in wiki along with the times. SO it is open to all | |
| 03:37:14 | ikuo_ | That's sounds good staying 9-12 am. | |
| 03:37:44 | Sundar__ | ikuo_: Thanks. Others ok with that time? | |
| 03:38:09 | Li_Liu | yup, I will be on irc all the time now | |
| 03:38:20 | Sundar__ | Cool. | |
| 03:39:46 | Sundar__ | xinranwang_: The Cyborg code to delete ARQs exists. Bu the Nova code to call the DELETE for ARQs is not done yet. If you want to take that up, NP. But please be aware that this will be on the critical path. | |
| 03:40:27 | Sundar__ | If you want to leave comments, that is also fine | |