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2018-09-01 19:53Gene Wirchenko : Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-02 02:09Koen Piller : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-02 02:11Koen Piller : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-02 16:09Chris Davis : RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-03 03:32Alan Bourke : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-04 13:35Kevin J Cully : RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-04 19:23Gene Wirchenko : RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-04 19:25Gene Wirchenko : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-05 04:46Alan Bourke : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
2018-09-05 21:26Gene Wirchenko : Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output
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Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2018-09-01 19:53:07   Link

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I

wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to

E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and

attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but

when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few

minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is

generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the

operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send

through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me

know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Koen Piller

Posted: 2018-09-02 02:09:14   Link

Post your question in Foxite or Tektips in the hope Mike Gagnon will

notice, he is the expert TP know such Outlook questions

Koen

Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 02:55 schreef Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>

> Hello:

>

> I have an in-house client billing system application that I

> wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to

> E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and

> attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

>

> Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

>

> Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but

> when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few

> minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is

> generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the

> operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

>

> Is there any way to get around this delay and still send

> through automation in the VFP program?

>

> If i have left out any significant details, please let me

> know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Gene Wirchenko

>

>

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Koen Piller

Posted: 2018-09-02 02:11:38   Link

An autocorrection misbehavior please read to know I/o TP know

Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 09:09 schreef Koen Piller <koen.piller@gmail.com>

> Post your question in Foxite or Tektips in the hope Mike Gagnon will

> notice, he is the expert TP know such Outlook questions

> Koen

>

> Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 02:55 schreef Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>

>

>> Hello:

>>

>> I have an in-house client billing system application that I

>> wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to

>> E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and

>> attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

>>

>> Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

>>

>> Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but

>> when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few

>> minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is

>> generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the

>> operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

>>

>> Is there any way to get around this delay and still send

>> through automation in the VFP program?

>>

>> If i have left out any significant details, please let me

>> know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Gene Wirchenko

>>

>>

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RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Chris Davis

Posted: 2018-09-02 16:09:32   Link

Are there any messages or dialogues displayed or is it simply just a delay?

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Subject: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2018-09-03 03:32:58   Link

> This program composes an E-mail and attaches the

> appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

How exactly - MAPI, the Outlook object model, etc?

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RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Kevin J Cully

Posted: 2018-09-04 13:35:19   Link

Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using a transactional email service might be an approach to consider. Depending on how many invoices you are sending, it could cost less than $40 per month. I've seen a demo and it is wicket fast.

https://mandrill.com/

hth,

Kevin

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Subject: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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RE: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2018-09-04 19:23:57   Link

At 14:09 2018-09-02, Chris Davis <chrisd@actongate.co.uk> wrote:

>Are there any messages or dialogues displayed or is it simply just a delay?

He did not say anything about a message, so I assume not.

[snipped previous]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2018-09-04 19:25:46   Link

At 01:32 2018-09-03, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> > This program composes an E-mail and attaches the

> > appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

>

>How exactly - MAPI, the Outlook object model, etc?

I do not know. I assume the Outlook object model, because I am

creating and manipulating objects. I got the basic code out of a

Hertzenwerke book.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2018-09-05 04:46:46   Link

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, at 7:35 PM, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during

> every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using

> a transactional email service might be an approach to consider.

This is definitely the way to go these days for bulk sending. Outlook, and specifically Outlook connected to hosted Exchange, is not designed to do bulk sends.

If you look at a service like SendGrid, you can set up HTML templates to handle your company logos and stationery and achieve mail-merge type functionality, it has an excellent API that you can pump the raw email information and attachments into, it will handle all the re-sending and reporting on failed sends, and it's inexpensive even for hundreds of thousands of mails. There is a small pain point in setting up DKIM\SPF so that they can send emails on your domain's behalf but beyond that it works extremely well.

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Re: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2018-09-05 21:26:16   Link

At 02:46 2018-09-05, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, at 7:35 PM, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> > Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during

> > every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using

> > a transactional email service might be an approach to consider.

>

>This is definitely the way to go these days for bulk sending.

>Outlook, and specifically Outlook connected to hosted Exchange, is

>not designed to do bulk sends.

The problem happens on the *first* E-mail.

We are not doing bulk sends. Each of the E-mails is

different. They are monthly invoices and possibly some other

reports. There are less than 100 of them, and they are sent one at a

time as they get completed.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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