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2016-11-14 13:46mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-14 14:17Mike Copeland : Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-14 15:20Kevin J Cully : RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-14 16:27mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-14 16:28mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-14 18:27Mike Copeland : Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-15 04:18AndyHC : Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-15 09:13Paul Hill : Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-16 15:01mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
2016-11-17 02:47Dave Crozier : RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives
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[NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2016-11-14 13:46:52   Link

Greetings fellow Profoxers!

I see some external SSD drives on this page:

http://www.newegg.com/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022?Tid=11694

My laptop is a maybe 4 years old and is running out of local disk space.

I've got another laptop I can migrate to but I was thinking of just

extending and still using this one yet (because I love it) and using an

external HD would take care of my space issues...at least for now...and

give me another area to send backups.

My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using the

USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier for

transfer rates.

tia,

--Mike

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-11-14 14:17:54   Link

mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

>

> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

> for transfer rates.

SATA 3 HD interface is rated up to 6Gbps

USB 3.0 interface is rated up to 5Gbps

Yes, using an SSD external will result in better performance than a

non-SSD, even with USB 3.0 interface in the mix.

Mike Copeland

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RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: Kevin J Cully

Posted: 2016-11-14 15:20:37   Link

Remember not to plug in any USB 2.x devices into a shared USB 3.0 controller because all devices will then slow to the USB 2.x speed.

Example: If you plug in a mouse beside the SSD External HD, you've just slowed down the speed of the HD.

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mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

>

> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

> for transfer rates.

SATA 3 HD interface is rated up to 6Gbps USB 3.0 interface is rated up to 5Gbps

Yes, using an SSD external will result in better performance than a non-SSD, even with USB 3.0 interface in the mix.

Mike Copeland

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2016-11-14 16:27:17   Link

On 2016-11-14 15:17, Mike Copeland wrote:

> mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

>>

>> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

>> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

>> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

>> for transfer rates.

>

> SATA 3 HD interface is rated up to 6Gbps

> USB 3.0 interface is rated up to 5Gbps

>

> Yes, using an SSD external will result in better performance than a

> non-SSD, even with USB 3.0 interface in the mix.

>

> Mike Copeland

Thanks, Mike. Sounds like an even better plan is to get the SATA 3 HD

connection. I believe my laptop has that port too.

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RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2016-11-14 16:28:14   Link

On 2016-11-14 16:20, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> Remember not to plug in any USB 2.x devices into a shared USB 3.0

> controller because all devices will then slow to the USB 2.x speed.

>

> Example: If you plug in a mouse beside the SSD External HD, you've

> just slowed down the speed of the HD.

>

Good to know. Another reason to use the SATA connection instead of USB3

then?

Thanks!

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-11-14 18:27:25   Link

You'd be right, just fewer to choose from (containers to hold the SSD

and provide the SATA3 HD interface.)

Mike

mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

> On 2016-11-14 15:17, Mike Copeland wrote:

>> mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

>>>

>>> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

>>> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

>>> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

>>> for transfer rates.

>>

>> SATA 3 HD interface is rated up to 6Gbps

>> USB 3.0 interface is rated up to 5Gbps

>>

>> Yes, using an SSD external will result in better performance than a

>> non-SSD, even with USB 3.0 interface in the mix.

>>

>> Mike Copeland

>

>

> Thanks, Mike. Sounds like an even better plan is to get the SATA 3 HD

> connection. I believe my laptop has that port too.

>

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: AndyHC

Posted: 2016-11-15 04:18:32   Link

Mike - I upgraded my laptop with a smart hybrid drive - SSD for the OS

and frequently accessed files, and extra space for the rest.

Not as fast as a pure SSD but much cheaper and imho works well.

On 15-Nov-2016 1:16 AM, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

> Greetings fellow Profoxers!

>

> I see some external SSD drives on this page:

> http://www.newegg.com/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022?Tid=11694

>

> My laptop is a maybe 4 years old and is running out of local disk

> space. I've got another laptop I can migrate to but I was thinking of

> just extending and still using this one yet (because I love it) and

> using an external HD would take care of my space issues...at least for

> now...and give me another area to send backups.

>

> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

> for transfer rates.

>

> tia,

> --Mike

>

>

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: Paul Hill

Posted: 2016-11-15 09:13:46   Link

On 14 November 2016 at 19:46,

<mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Greetings fellow Profoxers!

>

> I see some external SSD drives on this page:

> http://www.newegg.com/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022?Tid=11694

>

> My laptop is a maybe 4 years old and is running out of local disk space.

> I've got another laptop I can migrate to but I was thinking of just

> extending and still using this one yet (because I love it) and using an

> external HD would take care of my space issues...at least for now...and give

> me another area to send backups.

>

> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would that

> still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using the USB 3.0

> port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier for transfer rates.

Personally I would just buy a replacement internal SSD and a large external HDD.

Samsungs are nice.

Clonezilla can be used to transfer your OS to the new drive.

--

Paul

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Re: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2016-11-16 15:01:47   Link

On 2016-11-15 10:13, Paul Hill wrote:

> On 14 November 2016 at 19:46,

> <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

>> Greetings fellow Profoxers!

>>

>> I see some external SSD drives on this page:

>> http://www.newegg.com/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022?Tid=11694

>>

>> My laptop is a maybe 4 years old and is running out of local disk

>> space.

>> I've got another laptop I can migrate to but I was thinking of just

>> extending and still using this one yet (because I love it) and using

>> an

>> external HD would take care of my space issues...at least for

>> now...and give

>> me another area to send backups.

>>

>> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

>> that

>> still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using the

>> USB 3.0

>> port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier for transfer

>> rates.

>

> Personally I would just buy a replacement internal SSD and a large

> external HDD.

> Samsungs are nice.

>

> Clonezilla can be used to transfer your OS to the new drive.

How long do you normally use a laptop hard drive before replacing it

(before disaster strikes it)?

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RE: [NF] EXTERNAL SSD hard drives

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2016-11-17 02:47:21   Link

Mike,

I always used to work on the basis of 3 years for conventional desktop drives but the laptop drives seem to be much better so, depending on usage, about 5 years I guess but after that time you would probably find it to be too small anyway.

Lots of manufacturers no longer state the MTBF for drives any more as I guess it is fairly meaningless to most people.

Dave

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On 2016-11-15 10:13, Paul Hill wrote:

> On 14 November 2016 at 19:46,

> <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

>> Greetings fellow Profoxers!

>>

>> I see some external SSD drives on this page:

>> http://www.newegg.com/External-SSDs/SubCategory/ID-2022?Tid=11694

>>

>> My laptop is a maybe 4 years old and is running out of local disk

>> space.

>> I've got another laptop I can migrate to but I was thinking of just

>> extending and still using this one yet (because I love it) and using

>> an external HD would take care of my space issues...at least for

>> now...and give me another area to send backups.

>>

>> My question: I know SSD drives are 20x faster reportedly, but would

>> that still apply if it's an EXTERNAL drive? I understand that using

>> the USB 3.0 port is better than the older USB 2.x ports and earlier

>> for transfer rates.

>

> Personally I would just buy a replacement internal SSD and a large

> external HDD.

> Samsungs are nice.

>

> Clonezilla can be used to transfer your OS to the new drive.

How long do you normally use a laptop hard drive before replacing it (before disaster strikes it)?

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