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2015-12-18 13:21Wes Wilson : Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 10:09Ed Leafe : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 12:13billjarnold@h2officesolutions.com: Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 12:26Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 12:53Gianni Turri : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 14:15Stephen Russell : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 14:54billjarnold@h2officesolutions.com: Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 17:44Dan Covill : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-19 17:50Dan Covill : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
2015-12-21 09:02Ted Roche : Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"
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Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Wes Wilson

Posted: 2015-12-18 13:21:53   Link

We are starting a website dedicated to this subject.  We want as much information (facts) and professional opinions as possible.  We will be constantly adding to it as new information comes in.  The site domain name (not up yet) is www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com.  You can get to the rough draft of this site by clicking here.

Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely.  There is not a simple stay/leave answer.  We will be publishing www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the first of the year and then widely advertising it.  

If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site, I would appreciate it.  

To to HomeClick here to see the site.  Your comments welcome.  I want as much good information and opinions as possible.  

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I know this subject has been discussed widely for many years but there is no one place where all possible information and opinions reside.  

Wes Wilson Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc. Crescent Lake Plaza

5459  Elizabeth Lake Rd.

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(248) 683-4182

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2015-12-19 10:09:13   Link

On Dec 18, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely. There is not a simple stay/leave answer. We will be publishing www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the first of the year and then widely advertising it.

> If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site, I would appreciate it.

> To to HomeClick here to see the site. Your comments welcome. I want as much good information and opinions as possible.

Here's my contribution: http://imgur.com/KmbSEW6

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: billjarnold@h2officesolutions.com

Posted: 2015-12-19 12:13:43   Link

Wes,

" ... to HomeClick here to see the site" link isn't working.

Thanks for your effort.

Bill

Quoting Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com>:

> We are starting a website dedicated to this subject.  We want as

> much information (facts) and professional opinions as possible.  We

> will be constantly adding to it as new information comes in.  The

> site domain name (not up yet) is

> www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com.  You can get to the

> rough draft of this site by clicking here.

> Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely.  There

> is not a simple stay/leave answer.  We will be

> publishing www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the

> first of the year and then widely advertising it.  

> If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site,

> I would appreciate it.  

> To to HomeClick here to see the site.  Your comments welcome.  I

> want as much good information and opinions as possible.  

>

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> | Homedefault description |

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> | View on erw1.myfreesites.net | Preview by Yahoo |

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>

> I know this subject has been discussed widely for many years but

> there is no one place where all possible information and opinions

> reside.  

> Wes Wilson Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc.

> Crescent Lake Plaza

> 5459  Elizabeth Lake Rd.

> Waterford, MI 48327

> (248) 683-4182

> LinkedIn Profile

> www.erw.com weswilson@erw.com  

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)

Posted: 2015-12-19 12:26:59   Link

;-)

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely. There is

> not a simple stay/leave answer. We will be publishing

> www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the first of the year

> and then widely advertising it.

> > If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site, I

> would appreciate it.

> > To to HomeClick here to see the site. Your comments welcome. I want as

> much good information and opinions as possible.

>

> Here's my contribution: http://imgur.com/KmbSEW6

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>

> -- Ed Leafe

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Gianni Turri

Posted: 2015-12-19 12:53:18   Link

Hi Bill,

was quoted and unclickable ...

http://erw1.myfreesites.net/

Gianni

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:13:43 +0000, billjarnold@h2officesolutions.com wrote:

Wes,

" ... to HomeClick here to see the site" link isn't working.

Thanks for your effort.

Bill

Quoting Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com>:

> We are starting a website dedicated to this subject.  We want as

> much information (facts) and professional opinions as possible.  We

> will be constantly adding to it as new information comes in.  The

> site domain name (not up yet) is

> www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com.  You can get to the

> rough draft of this site by clicking here.

> Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely.  There

> is not a simple stay/leave answer.  We will be

> publishing www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the

> first of the year and then widely advertising it.  

> If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site,

> I would appreciate it.  

> To to HomeClick here to see the site.  Your comments welcome.  I

> want as much good information and opinions as possible.  

>

> |   |

> |   | |   |   |   |   |   |

> | Homedefault description |

> | |

> | View on erw1.myfreesites.net | Preview by Yahoo |

> | |

> |   |

>

>

>

> I know this subject has been discussed widely for many years but

> there is no one place where all possible information and opinions

> reside.  

> Wes Wilson Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc.

> Crescent Lake Plaza

> 5459  Elizabeth Lake Rd.

> Waterford, MI 48327

> (248) 683-4182

> LinkedIn Profile

> www.erw.com weswilson@erw.com  

>

>

>

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2015-12-19 14:15:33   Link

Moma got run over by a reindeer.

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely. There is

> not a simple stay/leave answer. We will be publishing

> www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the first of the year

> and then widely advertising it.

> > If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site, I

> would appreciate it.

> > To to HomeClick here to see the site. Your comments welcome. I want as

> much good information and opinions as possible.

>

> Here's my contribution: http://imgur.com/KmbSEW6

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: billjarnold@h2officesolutions.com

Posted: 2015-12-19 14:54:25   Link

Thanks, Gianni

Let me repeat mention of 2 possibilities for consideration

1. Open source VFP. In light of MS's new found interest and movement

in this direction it would be consistent to add FoxPro to the list.

Very importantly it would demonstrate support for the people who

bought into their acquisition of Fox, despite MS's secret plan to buy

it and kill it, with hugely damaging effect on businesses that trusted

MS would not do this.

This prospect can come to a head if a change to Windows breaks

something in FoxPro and the only way forward for FoxPro apps is a

service pack.

2. Identifying companies with competitive compilers as to their plans

and progress towards provide a bridge for FoxPro applications with a

minimum of re-writing.

Wes's matter of fact discussion on re-writing FoxPro applications

doesn't acknowledge that for small companies with substantial

applications built over many years the cost is prohibitive.

Bill

Quoting Gianni Turri <giannit62@gmail.com>:

> Hi Bill,

>

> was quoted and unclickable ...

>

> http://erw1.myfreesites.net/

>

> Gianni

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2015-12-19 17:44:07   Link

Thanks for the link to your Site-in-Progress. http://erw1.myfreesites.net/ <http://erw1.myfreesites.net/>

Here are some comments.

1. Is this a part of the ERW Programming site, or a standalone for VFP?

It's not clear, and should be stated in the Home page.

(The fact that it's called the 'Home' page indicates that it is a separate site, or sub-site.)

2. About page should start with the name of your company and what it does.

3. I think the Home Page should just outline the choices - you've said the same thing in your Choices subpages. Better yet, don't outline the choices in Home, just point to where you did outline them.

4. Contacts needs an email address. Who writes letters today?

Overall - Good job and I think we need this. I like the pros/cons.

Dan Covill - ProFox

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2015-12-19 17:50:48   Link

Note to ProFoxers:

This was a direct email to Wes Wilson, with a Copy to ProFox.

Sorry that didn’t come thru.

Dan

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Dan Covill <dan.covill@outlook.com> wrote:

>

> Thanks for the link to your Site-in-Progress. http://erw1.myfreesites.net/ <http://erw1.myfreesites.net/>

> Here are some comments.

>

> 1. Is this a part of the ERW Programming site, or a standalone for VFP?

> It's not clear, and should be stated in the Home page.

> (The fact that it's called the 'Home' page indicates that it is a separate site, or sub-site.)

>

> 2. About page should start with the name of your company and what it does.

>

> 3. I think the Home Page should just outline the choices - you've said the same thing in your Choices subpages. Better yet, don't outline the choices in Home, just point to where you did outline them.

>

> 4. Contacts needs an email address. Who writes letters today?

>

> Overall - Good job and I think we need this. I like the pros/cons.

>

> Dan Covill - ProFox

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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2015-12-21 09:02:13   Link

Pro: the language is very stable.

There are *excellent* books, magazines and documentation available for

the product.

(Full disclosure: I wrote some of them ;)

Con: the vendor claims to "no longer support" the product

Question: does anyone know where (or if?) a legitimately-licensed copy

of Visual Foxpro Professional can be purchased? A former client is

interested in doing some further development in-house.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Wes Wilson <erwweswilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We are starting a website dedicated to this subject. We want as much information (facts) and professional opinions as possible. We will be constantly adding to it as new information comes in. The site domain name (not up yet) is www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com. You can get to the rough draft of this site by clicking here.

> Opinions about whether to stay with VFP or leave vary widely. There is not a simple stay/leave answer. We will be publishing www.visual-foxpro-end-of-life-conversions.com by the first of the year and then widely advertising it.

> If you could take a minute and look at the rough draft of the site, I would appreciate it.

> To to HomeClick here to see the site. Your comments welcome. I want as much good information and opinions as possible.

>

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> | Homedefault description |

> | |

> | View on erw1.myfreesites.net | Preview by Yahoo |

> | |

> | |

>

>

>

> I know this subject has been discussed widely for many years but there is no one place where all possible information and opinions reside.

> Wes Wilson Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc. Crescent Lake Plaza

> 5459 Elizabeth Lake Rd.

> Waterford, MI 48327

> (248) 683-4182

> LinkedIn Profile

> www.erw.com weswilson@erw.com

>

>

>

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