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2014-12-03 16:30Paul McNett : windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-03 16:40Alan Bourke : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-03 19:13Paul McNett : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 03:59Man-wai Chang : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 06:13Alan Bourke : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 06:19Jeff Johnson : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 10:11Stephen Russell : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 10:48Alan Bourke : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 12:34Mike Copeland : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
2014-12-04 14:29Paul Hill : Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2
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windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2014-12-03 16:30:53   Link

Just started to configure a brand new server from Dell with Windows

Server 2012 Essentials R2. Surprised to be waiting over 15 minutes with

the Windows logo and a fancy spinning beach ball.

If it's doing something, certainly it would be telling me, right,

instead of just sitting there looking pretty?

Paul

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2014-12-03 16:40:43   Link

What's the disk light doing?

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On Wed, 3 Dec 2014, at 10:30 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

> Just started to configure a brand new server from Dell with Windows

> Server 2012 Essentials R2. Surprised to be waiting over 15 minutes with

> the Windows logo and a fancy spinning beach ball.

>

> If it's doing something, certainly it would be telling me, right,

> instead of just sitting there looking pretty?

>

> Paul

>

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2014-12-03 19:13:12   Link

On 12/3/14, 2:40 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

> What's the disk light doing?

There weren't any blinking lights... After about 20 minutes I got a page

to choose the partitioning, did that, pressed ok, that window didn't

clear, but nothing was responsive. Waited 5 minutes and left it to check

again tomorrow.

It seems like progress bars are only eye candy these days. Because they

are in a loop and running smoothly all the time, and not indicating any

sort of percentage done, I'm left wondering if the system is doing

anything at all (besides updating the eye candy). Wouldn't some sort of

text output along with a timestamp be better, so I could step away and

come back and see if the state has changed at all? Especially on a

server? Don't system admins want output?

Paul

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Man-wai Chang

Posted: 2014-12-04 03:59:35   Link

Doing the same thing here, and had patiently waited!

And I am using a 1.6GHz CPU (AMD E350)! :)

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Paul McNett <paul@mcnettware.com> wrote:

> Just started to configure a brand new server from Dell with Windows Server

> 2012 Essentials R2. Surprised to be waiting over 15 minutes with the Windows

> logo and a fancy spinning beach ball.

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2014-12-04 06:13:48   Link

On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, at 01:13 AM, Paul McNett wrote:

> Wouldn't some sort of

> text output along with a timestamp be better, so I could step away and

> come back and see if the state has changed at all? Especially on a

> server? Don't system admins want output?

>

I would definitely prefer a more Linux-like approach in these things,

where you can see exactly what the hell it's doing even if you have to

click a button to do it. Sort of like the Ubuntu update procedure.

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Jeff Johnson

Posted: 2014-12-04 06:19:48   Link

On 12/3/2014 3:30 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

> Just started to configure a brand new server from Dell with Windows

> Server 2012 Essentials R2. Surprised to be waiting over 15 minutes

> with the Windows logo and a fancy spinning beach ball.

>

> If it's doing something, certainly it would be telling me, right,

> instead of just sitting there looking pretty?

>

> Paul

Paul: I set up W 2012 Essentials and noticed the same thing. I just

waited until it looked like things were done and all was well. System

configured easy and works nicely. The promises of 25 remote users is a

little deceiving though. Remote access on this server is accessing

files, not running applications. I added TSPlus and it is working

fantastic.

HTH

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2014-12-04 10:11:12   Link

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com> wrote:

>

>

>>

> Paul: I set up W 2012 Essentials and noticed the same thing. I just

> waited until it looked like things were done and all was well. System

> configured easy and works nicely. The promises of 25 remote users is a

> little deceiving though. Remote access on this server is accessing files,

> not running applications. I added TSPlus and it is working fantastic.

>

> HTH

>

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You confuse a file server for 25 with a personal computer for 25 separate

users. Sorry but apples to bananas here.

Remote access is only needed for specific actions or activities such as

installs or maintenance.

If you remote into a sever to run software daily you are doing something

incorrectly.

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2014-12-04 10:48:12   Link

> You confuse a file server for 25 with a personal computer for 25 separate

> users. Sorry but apples to bananas here.

>

> Remote access is only needed for specific actions or activities such as

> installs or maintenance.

Yeah, Essentials 2012 ONLY support two RDP users, and they have to be

admins. It's only intended for remote admin.

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2014-12-04 12:34:38   Link

+1

Alan Bourke wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, at 01:13 AM, Paul McNett wrote:

>> Wouldn't some sort of

>> text output along with a timestamp be better, so I could step away and

>> come back and see if the state has changed at all? Especially on a

>> server? Don't system admins want output?

>>

> I would definitely prefer a more Linux-like approach in these things,

> where you can see exactly what the hell it's doing even if you have to

> click a button to do it. Sort of like the Ubuntu update procedure.

>

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Re: windows server 2012 essentials r2

Author: Paul Hill

Posted: 2014-12-04 14:29:43   Link

Just wondering: Why is everyone installing Windows Server Essentials ?

Is there something I'm missing?

Regular Windows Server/Win8 installs pretty quick.

On 4 December 2014 at 18:34, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

> +1

>

> Alan Bourke wrote:

>>

>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, at 01:13 AM, Paul McNett wrote:

>>>

>>> Wouldn't some sort of

>>> text output along with a timestamp be better, so I could step away and

>>> come back and see if the state has changed at all? Especially on a

>>> server? Don't system admins want output?

>>>

>> I would definitely prefer a more Linux-like approach in these things,

>> where you can see exactly what the hell it's doing even if you have to

>> click a button to do it. Sort of like the Ubuntu update procedure.

>>

>

>

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