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2012-07-02 16:01Ed Leafe : [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 16:07Jean Laeremans : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 16:08Ted Roche : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 16:09Michael Oke, II : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 17:17Richard Kaye : RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 17:20Richard Kaye : RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 17:24MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 17:53Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 18:21MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
2012-07-02 20:39John Harvey : RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
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[ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2012-07-02 16:01:29   Link

I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Jean Laeremans

Posted: 2012-07-02 16:07:18   Link

Good riddance..

A+

jml

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2012-07-02 16:08:58   Link

I'm sorry it had to come to this, but the post was intolerable, and

the poster knew better.

Thanks, Ed.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

>         I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

>

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Michael Oke, II

Posted: 2012-07-02 16:09:44   Link

I'll restrict my comments to two, good and thank you.

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On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

>

> I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox.

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

>

>

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RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2012-07-02 17:17:53   Link

Thanks.

--

rk

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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:01 PM

To: profoxtech@leafe.com

Subject: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox.

-- Ed Leafe

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RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2012-07-02 17:20:05   Link

I don't know if he does know better, Ted. People who regularly spew like that rarely do seem to understand why others are less amused.

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rk

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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:09 PM

To: profoxtech@leafe.com

Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

I'm sorry it had to come to this, but the post was intolerable, and the poster knew better.

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-07-02 17:24:56   Link

On 7/2/2012 5:01 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

> I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

>

> I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox.

>

Well deserved sanction.

Watch the listserve count get cut in half. All he posts is crap.

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)

Posted: 2012-07-02 17:53:33   Link

I am *not* sorry it has come to this. Pete contributes absolutely

nothing positive to the list. He just throws bomb after bomb after

bomb.

The list exists because of a large group of very generous technical

folks, willing to share their knowledge for the benefit of all. This

group has spawned a passionate, vocal subgroup on matters politic. I

have gone on and off the "tech-only" list, alternately amused and

irritated by them. Mostly, I am amused, and enjoy hearing alternate

viewpoints, so I have stayed on the full list. OTOH, I have active

twit filters, especially for Pete.

A couple of months ago, I wrote a rant about him, after seeing the

usual raft of statistics, posting twice as much as anyone else, and

all of it OT (including some not labeled as such). I was advocating a

voluntary moratorium among all of us on any reply to him. Just let his

topics sit there. Knowing Ed's abhorrence of censorship and rules, I

deleted the message without posting it.

I think the sanction should be permanent. The tech part comes first.

If one can't contribute anything tech, why be here except to throw

bombs?

I have enjoyed this community for almost as long as it has existed. I

don't want Pete here. I am sick of him.

Ken

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks.

>

> I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox.

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

>

>

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Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-07-02 18:21:32   Link

On 7/2/2012 6:53 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:

> I am *not* sorry it has come to this. Pete contributes absolutely

> nothing positive to the list. He just throws bomb after bomb after

> bomb.

>

> The list exists because of a large group of very generous technical

> folks, willing to share their knowledge for the benefit of all. This

> group has spawned a passionate, vocal subgroup on matters politic. I

> have gone on and off the "tech-only" list, alternately amused and

> irritated by them. Mostly, I am amused, and enjoy hearing alternate

> viewpoints, so I have stayed on the full list. OTOH, I have active

> twit filters, especially for Pete.

>

> A couple of months ago, I wrote a rant about him, after seeing the

> usual raft of statistics, posting twice as much as anyone else, and

> all of it OT (including some not labeled as such). I was advocating a

> voluntary moratorium among all of us on any reply to him. Just let his

> topics sit there. Knowing Ed's abhorrence of censorship and rules, I

> deleted the message without posting it.

>

> I think the sanction should be permanent. The tech part comes first.

> If one can't contribute anything tech, why be here except to throw

> bombs?

>

> I have enjoyed this community for almost as long as it has existed. I

> don't want Pete here. I am sick of him.

I share Ken's position. I purposely didn't trim any part of his message

because others should read it in its entirety. The man contributes

NOTHING of any value whatsoever.

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RE: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2012-07-02 20:39:29   Link

He was the "author of his own destruction."

John

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On 7/2/2012 5:01 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

> I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the

recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the

tech list for a period of two weeks.

>

> I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a

sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but

restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive

the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate

spewing into their inbox.

>

Well deserved sanction.

Watch the listserve count get cut in half. All he posts is crap.

--

Mike Babcock, MCP

MB Software Solutions, LLC

President, Chief Software Architect

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