Ari Fleischer also emailed Yahoo News to share his complete list of Obama flip-flops, which, in addition to the points above, includes: promising to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term; vowing to lower unemployment below 8 percent following the stimulus; falling short on shovel-ready jobs; contradicting himself on constitutional rights-- condemning Bush but then supporting "warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detentions, secret renditions and kept [Guantanamo] open; giving lobbyists waivers to work at the White House after saying they wouldn't work there; and refusing public financing in 2008 after vowing to accept it.
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since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
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Ari Fleischer also emailed Yahoo News to share his complete list of Obama flip-flops, which, in addition to the points above, includes: promising to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term; vowing to lower unemployment below 8 percent following the stimulus; falling short on shovel-ready jobs; contradicting himself on constitutional rights-- condemning Bush but then supporting "warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detentions, secret renditions and kept [Guantanamo] open; giving lobbyists waivers to work at the White House after saying they wouldn't work there; and refusing public financing in 2008 after vowing to accept it.
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com> wrote:
> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
-------------------------
Some of those "people" are huge corporations.
Those corporations will lobby for the handouts and receive them much
faster then the poor.
Isn't it funny that these corporations were given "person" status to
give them SPENDING power as well as a voice in our government. I'll
believe that they are worth that when I see the state of Texas execute
one, or one applies for a passport to go and visit the vast sums of
money they have stored up outside of the USA.
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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
> -------------------------
>
> Some of those "people" are huge corporations.
>
> Those corporations will lobby for the handouts and receive them much
> faster then the poor.
>
> Isn't it funny that these corporations were given "person" status to
> give them SPENDING power as well as a voice in our government. I'll
> believe that they are worth that when I see the state of Texas execute
> one, or one applies for a passport to go and visit the vast sums of
> money they have stored up outside of the USA.
Hi Stephen,
It is very much a scam. The richies blow off all responsibility while
retaining privilege. The little people expend the effort, the big people
get the reward.
And the middle taxpayers pay for it all. Welfare for the rich.
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Pete Theisen <petetheisen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Stephen Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Some of those "people" are huge corporations.
>>
>> Those corporations will lobby for the handouts and receive them much
>> faster then the poor.
>>
>> Isn't it funny that these corporations were given "person" status to
>> give them SPENDING power as well as a voice in our government. I'll
>> believe that they are worth that when I see the state of Texas execute
>> one, or one applies for a passport to go and visit the vast sums of
>> money they have stored up outside of the USA.
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> It is very much a scam. The richies blow off all responsibility while
> retaining privilege. The little people expend the effort, the big people
> get the reward.
>
> And the middle taxpayers pay for it all. Welfare for the rich.
> --
-----------------
Been that way for ever Pete.
CUSTOMER: Right. All right.
Who's that then?
CART-MASTER: I dunno. Must be a king.
CUSTOMER: Why?
CART-MASTER: He hasn't got shit all over him.
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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Pete Theisen <petetheisen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Stephen Russell wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
>>> Some of those "people" are huge corporations.
>>>
>>> Those corporations will lobby for the handouts and receive them much
>>> faster then the poor.
>>>
>>> Isn't it funny that these corporations were given "person" status to
>>> give them SPENDING power as well as a voice in our government. I'll
>>> believe that they are worth that when I see the state of Texas execute
>>> one, or one applies for a passport to go and visit the vast sums of
>>> money they have stored up outside of the USA.
>> It is very much a scam. The richies blow off all responsibility while
>> retaining privilege. The little people expend the effort, the big people
>> get the reward.
>>
>> And the middle taxpayers pay for it all. Welfare for the rich.
> Been that way for ever Pete.
>
> CUSTOMER: Right. All right.
> Who's that then?
> CART-MASTER: I dunno. Must be a king.
> CUSTOMER: Why?
> CART-MASTER: He hasn't got shit all over him.
Hi Stephen,
Recently - last 150 or so years - there was a golden age in which if you
worked hard, saved your money, were clever AND lucky you could get
somewhere. The exact times varied from place to place as the frontier
moved west, but some people did enjoy prosperity during those times.
It's over now for most people.
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Pete Theisen <petetheisen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Recently - last 150 or so years - there was a golden age in which if you
> worked hard, saved your money, were clever AND lucky you could get
> somewhere. The exact times varied from place to place as the frontier
> moved west, but some people did enjoy prosperity during those times.
>
> It's over now for most people.
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Were you in an Occupy movement? As I read the above you missed your chance.
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On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
> Stephen Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan<mmadi10699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Some of those "people" are huge corporations.
>>
>> Those corporations will lobby for the handouts and receive them much
>> faster then the poor.
>>
>> Isn't it funny that these corporations were given "person" status to
>> give them SPENDING power as well as a voice in our government. I'll
>> believe that they are worth that when I see the state of Texas execute
>> one, or one applies for a passport to go and visit the vast sums of
>> money they have stored up outside of the USA.
> Hi Stephen,
>
> It is very much a scam. The richies blow off all responsibility while
> retaining privilege. The little people expend the effort, the big people
> get the reward.
>
> And the middle taxpayers pay for it all. Welfare for the rich.
I agree Pete. I've heard loads of bitching about redistribution of
income from an income tax, that uses progressively higher rate as an
individual's income increases, but what about the government's
distribution of income to multi-millionaires and billionaires, including
their corporations and special interests. Multi-millionaires and
billionaires only comprise a very small percent of the USA population.
Also, the Supreme Court's ruling in "Citizens United v. Federal Election
Commission", which rolled back restriction on campaign contributions,
needs to be reversed, but not in a way that set a precedent limiting
first amendment rights to free speech.
In a democracy people make their voices heard by voting their
convictions. If multi-millionaires, billionaires and their corporations
are allowed to make unlimited political contributions, they can drowned
out the voice of ordinary, rational citizen with campaigns so rich they
overwhelming rational thinking and embed misinformation and fear in all
its many forms, in the minds of the USA population. If successful, the
voices heard on election day from most citizen would only be an echo
planted deep in the subconscious of the voter by those who control mass
media, which has, and currently is, undergoing consolidation into fewer
and fewer hands. Citizens need free, equal access to all the
information, if they are to make an informed vote on election day.
Congress need to enact campaign reform limiting political contributions,
and have it taken to the Supreme Court, so the Supreme Court can
overturn "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission". Limited
campaign contributions would better equalize the resources available to
each campaign, so the citizen could have full access to all information
about political platforms. Only then would citizens be able to express
an informed, rational voice on election day.
Regards,
LelandJ
Regards,
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Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Pete Theisen <petetheisen@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Recently - last 150 or so years - there was a golden age in which if you
>> worked hard, saved your money, were clever AND lucky you could get
>> somewhere. The exact times varied from place to place as the frontier
>> moved west, but some people did enjoy prosperity during those times.
>>
>> It's over now for most people.
>> --
>
> Were you in an Occupy movement? As I read the above you missed your chance.
Hi Stephen,
Occupy just wants to get in on the corruption, not to end corruption. I
am getting up in years - to the point where I mostly occupy my bed, LOL.
Now, tea party - they just want someone else to pay the taxes - not
them. They are in denial about it, but there it is.
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For once I agree with you, Leland.
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> On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
>> Stephen Russell wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Michael Madigan<mmadi10699@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> since 50% of people pay zero federal income tax now, we've tipped the
>>>> balance in this country. People will continue to vote for handouts.
>>> -------------------------
>
> Also, the Supreme Court's ruling in "Citizens United v. Federal Election
> Commission", which rolled back restriction on campaign contributions,
> needs to be reversed, but not in a way that set a precedent limiting
> first amendment rights to free speech.
>
> Congress need to enact campaign reform limiting political contributions,
> and have it taken to the Supreme Court, so the Supreme Court can
> overturn "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission". Limited
> campaign contributions would better equalize the resources available to
> each campaign, so the citizen could have full access to all information
> about political platforms. Only then would citizens be able to express
> an informed, rational voice on election day.
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
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