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2011-04-29 10:38Lou Syracuse : VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 15:04Paul McNett : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 15:07MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 15:14Paul McNett : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 15:18MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 15:22Paul McNett : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 16:09Rick Schummer : RE: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 16:21Kevin O'Shea : RE: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 17:01Ed Leafe : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
2011-04-29 17:03Ed Leafe : Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited
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VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Lou Syracuse

Posted: 2011-04-29 10:38:43   Link

The battle has been won.

I had my annual review yesterday, during which the topic of source control

came up. Actually it was the IT Director who brought it up, saying that

last week he had to restore files from a backup because the other programmer

over-wrote code by mistake. Wish he had told me, I've been making weekly

7-zip files of the development and production environments, but I digress..

He gave me the green light to look into it and get back to him with costs.

Should have seen his face when I said "How about free?" lol

I'm going to start with a look at Subversion for Windows. I've used

Subversion/TortiseSVN in the past so that seems a good place to start. We

don't need all the bells and whistles that come with a full-blown SVN , so

from what I've read this may fit the bill nicely. Will toss it on a VM on

my notebook and give it a look.

I SO wanted to say "I told you so.", but thought better of it (especially

since it was during my review). I'll just be happy we are moving in the

right direction on this. J

Lou

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2011-04-29 15:04:00   Link

On 4/29/11 7:38 AM, Lou Syracuse wrote:

> I'm going to start with a look at Subversion for Windows. I've used

> Subversion/TortiseSVN in the past so that seems a good place to start. We

> don't need all the bells and whistles that come with a full-blown SVN , so

> from what I've read this may fit the bill nicely. Will toss it on a VM on

> my notebook and give it a look.

Subversion was the source control system to use ten years ago. It is still as good as

it ever was, but there are better choices these days. Starting fresh today, I'd pick

Mercurial or Git.

Paul

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2011-04-29 15:07:49   Link

On 4/29/2011 3:04 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

> Subversion was the source control system to use ten years ago. It is still as good as

> it ever was, but there are better choices these days. Starting fresh today, I'd pick

> Mercurial or Git.

Why do you like these over Subversion?

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2011-04-29 15:14:31   Link

On 4/29/11 12:07 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

> On 4/29/2011 3:04 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

>> Subversion was the source control system to use ten years ago. It is still as good as

>> it ever was, but there are better choices these days. Starting fresh today, I'd pick

>> Mercurial or Git.

>

>

> Why do you like these over Subversion?

Never used 'em, but I trust the people I listen to. I still use Subversion because it

works well enough for me, but Mercurial and Git are distributed version control

systems, which means they make it much more convenient to collaborate with others.

We still use Subversion for Dabo, but at some point when it makes sense to do so I'll

move it forward to Git or Mercurial.

Paul

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2011-04-29 15:18:35   Link

On 4/29/2011 3:14 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

> On 4/29/11 12:07 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

>> On 4/29/2011 3:04 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

>>> Subversion was the source control system to use ten years ago. It is still as good as

>>> it ever was, but there are better choices these days. Starting fresh today, I'd pick

>>> Mercurial or Git.

>>

>>

>> Why do you like these over Subversion?

>

> Never used 'em, but I trust the people I listen to. I still use Subversion because it

> works well enough for me, but Mercurial and Git are distributed version control

> systems, which means they make it much more convenient to collaborate with others.

>

> We still use Subversion for Dabo, but at some point when it makes sense to do so I'll

> move it forward to Git or Mercurial.

And do those work with Windows systems? I know you're a non-Windows guy

some (or most) of the time for your work.

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2011-04-29 15:22:54   Link

On 4/29/11 12:18 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

> And do those work with Windows systems? I know you're a non-Windows guy

> some (or most) of the time for your work.

I don't think any software that didn't work on Windows would be taken very seriously.

I use Windows to test my software before releasing it to my customers, who -by and

large- use Windows.

Paul

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RE: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2011-04-29 16:09:20   Link

>> And do those work with Windows systems? I know you're a non-Windows guy some (or most) of the time for your work.<<

Check out TortoiseHG, integrates Mercurial right into Windows Explorer, similarly as TortoiseSVN does for Subversion.

http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/

Rick

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RE: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Kevin O'Shea

Posted: 2011-04-29 16:21:40   Link

We also use PushOK's CVS SCC plug-in to integrate CVS into the FoxPro IDE

(http://www.pushok.com/soft_short_info.php). They also have one for SVN, but

I haven't used it.

Kevin

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> >> And do those work with Windows systems? I know you're a non-Windows

guy some (or most) of the time for your work.<<

>

> Check out TortoiseHG, integrates Mercurial right into Windows Explorer,

similarly as TortoiseSVN does for Subversion.

>

> http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/

>

> Rick

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-04-29 17:01:35   Link

On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:07 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

>> Subversion was the source control system to use ten years ago. It is still as good as

>> it ever was, but there are better choices these days. Starting fresh today, I'd pick

>> Mercurial or Git.

>

> Why do you like these over Subversion?

With git, you can make multiple local commits - I sometimes do dozens a day. This is great for both when you want to try something out and be able to recover easily, as well as for when you screw things up and need to get back to a known good state.

Since Dabo uses a Subversion repo, I can't commit to it without affecting everyone else, so I use git locally when working, and when I'm confident in my changes, I commit to Subversion. Were Dabo to move to GitHub for its repo, I would work the same locally, and then instead of a running 'svn commit', I'd do a 'git push' to push my changes to github.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: VFP And Source Control - Revisited

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-04-29 17:03:47   Link

On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:18 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

> And do those work with Windows systems? I know you're a non-Windows guy some (or most) of the time for your work.

They work fine on Windows; I'd recommend TortoiseGit or TortoiseHg because they integrate well with what Windows users are used to. But I'd make sure I had a real easy way to commit often locally - that's the real beauty of git.

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