Is there any reason that some people's postings on the list such as "Jerry Foote", as an example, appear as emails from their own email addresses and not through the Profox list?
PI have noticed since my return that a number of group member's posts seem to originate not from Profox.
Just asking, as these people are caught by our spam-trap and I seem to be missing thread links until I retrieve them back from the "spam items" on the server.
Dave
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On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> Is there any reason that some people's postings on the list such as "Jerry Foote", as an example, appear as emails from their own email addresses and not through the Profox list?
>
> PI have noticed since my return that a number of group member's posts seem to originate not from Profox.
The list software has not changed during your absence.
Emails should display the original author in the From: header, and the ProFox address in the Reply-To: header. They have never had the ProFox address as the From:
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Ed,
Well on say your last post the message header is:
profox-bounces@leafe.com; on behalf of; Ed Leafe [ed@leafe.com]
On Jerry's it is simply:
Jerry Foote [jerryf@footegroup.com]
without the profox-bounces@leafe.com which our exchange server looks for this to allow it through on the white list.
I get exactly the same problem on the pro-dabo list with 2 or 3 user names. I appreciate that nothing has changed and this was happening before my absence bit I didn't used to mind as they simply ended up in my Outlook junk folder but now as I have migrated to Exchange they get thrown into the global spam trap and I have to go looking for them.
Dave
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Subject: Profox email question
Is there any reason that some people's postings on the list such as "Jerry Foote", as an example, appear as emails from their own email addresses and not through the Profox list?
PI have noticed since my return that a number of group member's posts seem to originate not from Profox.
Just asking, as these people are caught by our spam-trap and I seem to be missing thread links until I retrieve them back from the "spam items" on the server.
Dave
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On Apr 18, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> Well on say your last post the message header is:
>
> profox-bounces@leafe.com; on behalf of; Ed Leafe [ed@leafe.com]
>
> On Jerry's it is simply:
> Jerry Foote [jerryf@footegroup.com]
>
> without the profox-bounces@leafe.com which our exchange server looks for this to allow it through on the white list.
Here is the header from my previous reply; note that there is no "on behalf of" anywhere in it:
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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The Exchange server here behaves the same way. I don't manage it so I can't provide any other insight.
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Ed,
Included below the headers from Jerry (email looks like it came direct from him) and yourself in which the email looks like it is sent from Profox Bounces i.e see the Sender near the end of the header.
Hope this helps
Dave
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Dave,
>> Is there any reason that some people's postings on the list such as "Jerry Foote", as an example, appear as emails
from their own email addresses and not through the Profox list?<<
Is it possible that people are emailing you directly, bypassing the list? Are you getting the full ProFox footer in each
email?
The reason I ask is that people occasionally reply direct to me. Since I have a rule that plops it into a folder based
on the email address it appears to be in the ProFox list, but in reality it is not from the list at all. Still, I get
confused from time to time.
Rick
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www.swfox.net
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On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> Included below the headers from Jerry (email looks like it came direct from him) and yourself in which the email looks like it is sent from Profox Bounces i.e see the Sender near the end of the header.
That may be an artifact of my SMTP host being the same as ProFox's. You showed the same Sender: header that Jerry's did.
Generally, email filtering rules should base off of Received: headers, as they are not prone to spoofing.
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On 4/18/11 11:32 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:
> The reason I ask is that people occasionally reply direct to me. Since I have a rule that plops it into a folder based
> on the email address it appears to be in the ProFox list, but in reality it is not from the list at all. Still, I get
> confused from time to time.
I have my filters set to look at List-Id. Seems to work very well for the 2 dozen or
so mailing lists I'm a member of.
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I promise I only reply to mail from profox, or send to ProFox Email List
No spoofing here
Jerry
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Dave,
>> Is there any reason that some people's postings on the list such as
"Jerry Foote", as an example, appear as emails
from their own email addresses and not through the Profox list?<<
Is it possible that people are emailing you directly, bypassing the list?
Are you getting the full ProFox footer in each
email?
The reason I ask is that people occasionally reply direct to me. Since I
have a rule that plops it into a folder based
on the email address it appears to be in the ProFox list, but in reality it
is not from the list at all. Still, I get
confused from time to time.
Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.
www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com
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