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2011-03-02 15:13Kevin Cully : [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 15:38casey mcg : Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 17:14John Harvey : RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 17:41casey mcg : Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 17:58John Harvey : RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 19:59Casey : Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-02 22:54Stephen Russell : Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-08 12:34Jarvis, Matthew : RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
2011-03-08 20:09Kevin Cully : RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id
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[NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2011-03-02 15:13:56   Link

I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

based. This application will be written for the multiple phone

platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc. The heart of this

application will help the user know their location *inside* of a (known)

building. We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id and round

trip times to three or more cell towers.

This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended to

be run inside of various buildings.

I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this area

for one or more of the phone platforms. If you have had experience in

this area, or know of someone that has done something along these lines,

have them drop me an email.

Thanks,

Kevin

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Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: casey mcg

Posted: 2011-03-02 15:38:37   Link

The iphone will use information obtained from the built-in cellular,

Wi-Fi, or GPS hardware to triangulate a location fix for the device.

Depending on how accurate you want it to be, will help determine what

it will use. More accuracy more power use. But as accurate as you

want it(room inside building), not being able to use GPS may be an

issue. Would just have to be something you test out. If you have an

iphone, I can send you a sample app so you can gauge its accuracy.

Casey McGuire

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully

<kcully@cullytechnologies.com> wrote:

> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

> based.  This application will be written for the multiple phone

> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc.  The heart of this

> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a (known)

> building.  We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id and round

> trip times to three or more cell towers.

>

> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended to

> be run inside of various buildings.

>

> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this area

> for one or more of the phone platforms.  If you have had experience in

> this area, or know of someone that has done something along these lines,

> have them drop me an email.

>

> Thanks,

> Kevin

>

>

>

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RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2011-03-02 17:14:38   Link

I have an Iphone and would love to see the app.

John

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Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

The iphone will use information obtained from the built-in cellular, Wi-Fi,

or GPS hardware to triangulate a location fix for the device.

Depending on how accurate you want it to be, will help determine what it

will use. More accuracy more power use. But as accurate as you want

it(room inside building), not being able to use GPS may be an issue. Would

just have to be something you test out. If you have an iphone, I can send

you a sample app so you can gauge its accuracy.

Casey McGuire

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>

wrote:

> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

> based.  This application will be written for the multiple phone

> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc.  The heart of this

> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

> (known) building.  We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id

> and round trip times to three or more cell towers.

>

> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended

> to be run inside of various buildings.

>

> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this

> area for one or more of the phone platforms.  If you have had

> experience in this area, or know of someone that has done something

> along these lines, have them drop me an email.

>

> Thanks,

> Kevin

>

>

>

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Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: casey mcg

Posted: 2011-03-02 17:41:35   Link

My sample is is poop. It doesn't give you any useful info that you

can't get from using the "Maps" app from the phone. It just gets your

current location and centers the map on it. And has a button that

allows you to drop a pin on my friends house(he deserves it). Maybe

I can market the app as voodoo pin. App that allows you to stick pins

in your looser friends houses. ;-) But I digress... I can still

send it your way, if you want. Anything specific you are curious

about?

kc

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Harvey <john.harvey@shelbynet.com> wrote:

> I have an Iphone and would love to see the app.

>

> John

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf

> Of casey mcg

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:39 PM

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

>

> The iphone will use information obtained from the built-in cellular, Wi-Fi,

> or GPS hardware to triangulate a location fix for the device.

> Depending on how accurate you want it to be, will help determine what it

> will use.  More accuracy more power use.  But as accurate as you want

> it(room inside building), not being able to use GPS may be an issue.  Would

> just have to be something you test out.  If you have an iphone, I can send

> you a sample app so you can gauge its accuracy.

>

> Casey McGuire

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>

> wrote:

>> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

>> based.  This application will be written for the multiple phone

>> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc.  The heart of this

>> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

>> (known) building.  We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id

>> and round trip times to three or more cell towers.

>>

>> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended

>> to be run inside of various buildings.

>>

>> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this

>> area for one or more of the phone platforms.  If you have had

>> experience in this area, or know of someone that has done something

>> along these lines, have them drop me an email.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Kevin

>>

>>

>>

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RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2011-03-02 17:58:12   Link

What did you use to develop the app?

John

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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:42 PM

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Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

My sample is is poop. It doesn't give you any useful info that you can't

get from using the "Maps" app from the phone. It just gets your current

location and centers the map on it. And has a button that

allows you to drop a pin on my friends house(he deserves it). Maybe

I can market the app as voodoo pin. App that allows you to stick pins

in your looser friends houses. ;-) But I digress... I can still

send it your way, if you want. Anything specific you are curious about?

kc

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Harvey <john.harvey@shelbynet.com>

wrote:

> I have an Iphone and would love to see the app.

>

> John

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On

> Behalf Of casey mcg

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:39 PM

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

>

> The iphone will use information obtained from the built-in cellular,

> Wi-Fi, or GPS hardware to triangulate a location fix for the device.

> Depending on how accurate you want it to be, will help determine what

> it will use.  More accuracy more power use.  But as accurate as you

> want it(room inside building), not being able to use GPS may be an

> issue.  Would just have to be something you test out.  If you have an

> iphone, I can send you a sample app so you can gauge its accuracy.

>

> Casey McGuire

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully

> <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>

> wrote:

>> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

>> based.  This application will be written for the multiple phone

>> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc.  The heart of this

>> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

>> (known) building.  We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id

>> and round trip times to three or more cell towers.

>>

>> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended

>> to be run inside of various buildings.

>>

>> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this

>> area for one or more of the phone platforms.  If you have had

>> experience in this area, or know of someone that has done something

>> along these lines, have them drop me an email.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Kevin

>>

>>

>>

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Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: Casey

Posted: 2011-03-02 19:59:28   Link

I use apple's development stack.

IDE = Xcode

Build screens = interface builder

Language = Objective-C

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:58 PM, "John Harvey" <john.harvey@shelbynet.com> wrote:

> What did you use to develop the app?

>

> John

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf

> Of casey mcg

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:42 PM

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

>

> My sample is is poop. It doesn't give you any useful info that you can't

> get from using the "Maps" app from the phone. It just gets your current

> location and centers the map on it. And has a button that

> allows you to drop a pin on my friends house(he deserves it). Maybe

> I can market the app as voodoo pin. App that allows you to stick pins

> in your looser friends houses. ;-) But I digress... I can still

> send it your way, if you want. Anything specific you are curious about?

>

> kc

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Harvey <john.harvey@shelbynet.com>

> wrote:

>> I have an Iphone and would love to see the app.

>>

>> John

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On

>> Behalf Of casey mcg

>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:39 PM

>> To: profox@leafe.com

>> Subject: Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

>>

>> The iphone will use information obtained from the built-in cellular,

>> Wi-Fi, or GPS hardware to triangulate a location fix for the device.

>> Depending on how accurate you want it to be, will help determine what

>> it will use. More accuracy more power use. But as accurate as you

>> want it(room inside building), not being able to use GPS may be an

>> issue. Would just have to be something you test out. If you have an

>> iphone, I can send you a sample app so you can gauge its accuracy.

>>

>> Casey McGuire

>>

>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully

>> <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>

>> wrote:

>>> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

>>> based. This application will be written for the multiple phone

>>> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc. The heart of this

>>> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

>>> (known) building. We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id

>>> and round trip times to three or more cell towers.

>>>

>>> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended

>>> to be run inside of various buildings.

>>>

>>> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this

>>> area for one or more of the phone platforms. If you have had

>>> experience in this area, or know of someone that has done something

>>> along these lines, have them drop me an email.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>> Kevin

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Re: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-03-02 22:54:23   Link

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Cully

<kcully@cullytechnologies.com> wrote:

> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

> based.  This application will be written for the multiple phone

> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc.  The heart of this

> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a (known)

> building.  We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id and round

> trip times to three or more cell towers.

>

> This application will not be using GPS as the application is intended to

> be run inside of various buildings.

>

> I'm currently looking for consultants that have experience in this area

> for one or more of the phone platforms.  If you have had experience in

> this area, or know of someone that has done something along these lines,

> have them drop me an email.

----------------

I don't think the phone will be able to identify where in the building

the phone is at. The walls will defeat you from phone towers.

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

CIMSgts

901.246-0159 cell

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RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: Jarvis, Matthew

Posted: 2011-03-08 12:34:12   Link

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> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:14 PM

> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> Subject: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

>

> I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

> based. This application will be written for the multiple phone

> platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc. The heart of this

> application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

(known)

> building. We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id and round

> trip times to three or more cell towers.

>

Is this supposed to be a sort of "You Are Here" application i.e. instead

of user looking at some kiosk with a map on it, they can basically carry

the map around with them i.e. their phone?

Thanks,

Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst

IT Department

McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center

1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax:

541-744-6145

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RE: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2011-03-08 20:09:59   Link

Yes, that was what we were after. Without saying too much about the

application, we were wanting to have people know what building they are

in and to present them information about what is in that building. The

finer the resolution the better, but just to know what building they are

in is good enough. Obviously, with being inside of a building, GPS

isn't going to be an option.

-Kevin

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> > On Behalf Of Kevin Cully

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:14 PM

> > To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> > Subject: [NF] Phone App - Determine location via cell_id

> >

> > I am doing a feasibility study for an application that is cell phone

> > based. This application will be written for the multiple phone

> > platforms: iPhone, Android, Symbian, Win7, etc. The heart of this

> > application will help the user know their location *inside* of a

> (known)

> > building. We are hoping to use multilateration via cell_id and round

> > trip times to three or more cell towers.

> >

>

>

> Is this supposed to be a sort of "You Are Here" application i.e. instead

> of user looking at some kiosk with a map on it, they can basically carry

> the map around with them i.e. their phone?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst

> IT Department

> McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center

> 1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax:

> 541-744-6145

>

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