Has anyone run into problems with html formatted emails not looking

right in Outlook?

Specifically I am not seeing the background image appear, but all the

other html elements look fine. I'm specifying the image using CSS,

and it looks fine on the website, ie, the email is generated as the

same image that appears on the website prior to submitting their

data. Has anyone else run into this kind of thing?

PS - wasn't sure to tag this as NF or not since the emails are

generated by VFP, but it's not really about VFP.

Thanks-

Steve

Have you set it to not download pictures. Should really anyway to avoid

trackers

Al

-----Original Message-----

From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On

Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff

Has anyone run into problems with html formatted emails not looking

right in Outlook?

Excellent suggestion, but it is pulling images, and in fact the other

images in the email come through fine, just not the body one which is

using css., aka:

body {

background: white url(images/subpage.jpg) no-repeat top left;

}

At 05:13 AM 11/06/2008, you wrote:

>Have you set it to not download pictures. Should really anyway to avoid

>trackers

>Al

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On

>Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff

>

>Has anyone run into problems with html formatted emails not looking

>right in Outlook?

>

>

>

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On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Steve Ellenoff <sellenoff@pinmame.com> wrote:

> Excellent suggestion, but it is pulling images, and in fact the other

> images in the email come through fine, just not the body one which is

> using css., aka:

> body {

> background: white url(images/subpage.jpg) no-repeat top left;

> }

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You need to hard code the url for the server/images/subpage.jpg

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

Mimeo.com

Memphis TN

901.246-0159

Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> Has anyone run into problems with html formatted emails not looking

> right in Outlook?

HTML email never looks right, and I recommend not sending it! Send plain text! Email

was ever only meant for plain text. If you have a snazzy page to show your

recipients, *link* to it from the email.

> Specifically I am not seeing the background image appear, but all the

> other html elements look fine. I'm specifying the image using CSS,

> and it looks fine on the website, ie, the email is generated as the

> same image that appears on the website prior to submitting their

> data. Has anyone else run into this kind of thing?

It is probably a "remote image". IOW, you didn't embed the image into the email but

you link to it with HTML. This is deemed insecure as sneaky marketers or spammers can

tell if you received the email by simply checking their web server logs for a

specific image download.

> PS - wasn't sure to tag this as NF or not since the emails are

> generated by VFP, but it's not really about VFP.

I think this would be [NF], but am not concerned as the number of messages on

ProfoxTech seems pretty manageable these days...

Paul

Ah, I think you've found it. I haven't tested yet, but now that you

mentioned it, I have a function that runs through the html prior to

emailing it which fixes all the image tags to contain hard coded

references to the server rather than the relative pathing used by the

web page itself. That is likely the problem, thanks!

At 12:55 PM 11/06/2008, you wrote:

>On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Steve Ellenoff <sellenoff@pinmame.com> wrote:

> > Excellent suggestion, but it is pulling images, and in fact the other

> > images in the email come through fine, just not the body one which is

> > using css., aka:

> > body {

> > background: white url(images/subpage.jpg) no-repeat top left;

> > }

>----------------------------------

>

>You need to hard code the url for the server/images/subpage.jpg

>

>

>--

>Stephen Russell

>Sr. Production Systems Programmer

>Mimeo.com

>Memphis TN

>

>901.246-0159

>

>

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At 02:57 PM 11/06/2008, you wrote:

>HTML email never looks right, and I recommend not sending it! Send

>plain text! Email

>was ever only meant for plain text. If you have a snazzy page to show your

>recipients, *link* to it from the email.

I get tons of HTML emails every day (many look fantastic, ie the ones

from reputable companies, not spammers) so I'm not sure why you might

think it never looks right? Given today's slew of html enabled mail

readers and ajax style online email apps, I can't see any reason why

html formatted emails shouldn't look 100% as they do on websites when

all the image blocking/html formatting options are turned on for

trusted senders.

>It is probably a "remote image". IOW, you didn't embed the image

>into the email but

>you link to it with HTML. This is deemed insecure as sneaky

>marketers or spammers can

>tell if you received the email by simply checking their web server logs for a

>specific image download.

This is used for an internal company email so nobody cares about the

linked html, although I would be happy to embed my images, but last

time I looked I recall not finding any easy tutorials on how to do

this, perhaps it's time to look again.

-Steve

Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> At 02:57 PM 11/06/2008, you wrote:

>> HTML email never looks right, and I recommend not sending it! Send

>> plain text! Email

>> was ever only meant for plain text. If you have a snazzy page to show your

>> recipients, *link* to it from the email.

>

> I get tons of HTML emails every day (many look fantastic, ie the ones

> from reputable companies, not spammers) so I'm not sure why you might

> think it never looks right? Given today's slew of html enabled mail

> readers and ajax style online email apps, I can't see any reason why

> html formatted emails shouldn't look 100% as they do on websites when

> all the image blocking/html formatting options are turned on for

> trusted senders.

I realize it's an uphill battle I'm fighting. Rich text/html formatting *never

belonged* in email. I don't care how good people think it looks.

>> It is probably a "remote image". IOW, you didn't embed the image

>> into the email but

>> you link to it with HTML. This is deemed insecure as sneaky

>> marketers or spammers can

>> tell if you received the email by simply checking their web server logs for a

>> specific image download.

>

> This is used for an internal company email so nobody cares about the

> linked html, although I would be happy to embed my images, but last

> time I looked I recall not finding any easy tutorials on how to do

> this, perhaps it's time to look again.

Nah, don't embed them for an internal email. It'll just bloat the message.

Paul

To have an effective advertising campaign, you must use HTML.

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Paul McNett <p@ulmcnett.com> wrote:

> From: Paul McNett <p@ulmcnett.com>

> Subject: Re: HTML Formatted Emails not working in Outlook

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:27 PM

> Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> > At 02:57 PM 11/06/2008, you wrote:

> >> HTML email never looks right, and I recommend not

> sending it! Send

> >> plain text! Email

> >> was ever only meant for plain text. If you have a

> snazzy page to show your

> >> recipients, *link* to it from the email.

> >

> > I get tons of HTML emails every day (many look

> fantastic, ie the ones

> > from reputable companies, not spammers) so I'm not

> sure why you might

> > think it never looks right? Given today's slew of

> html enabled mail

> > readers and ajax style online email apps, I can't

> see any reason why

> > html formatted emails shouldn't look 100% as they

> do on websites when

> > all the image blocking/html formatting options are

> turned on for

> > trusted senders.

>

> I realize it's an uphill battle I'm fighting. Rich

> text/html formatting *never

> belonged* in email. I don't care how good people think

> it looks.

>

>

> >> It is probably a "remote image". IOW,

> you didn't embed the image

> >> into the email but

> >> you link to it with HTML. This is deemed insecure

> as sneaky

> >> marketers or spammers can

> >> tell if you received the email by simply checking

> their web server logs for a

> >> specific image download.

> >

> > This is used for an internal company email so nobody

> cares about the

> > linked html, although I would be happy to embed my

> images, but last

> > time I looked I recall not finding any easy tutorials

> on how to do

> > this, perhaps it's time to look again.

>

> Nah, don't embed them for an internal email. It'll

> just bloat the message.

>

> Paul

>

>

>

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Michael Madigan wrote:

> To have an effective advertising campaign, you must use HTML.

I doubt that is actually true, but agree about the common perception.

Short, to the point text paragraph followed by a link to a well-designed webpage.

Especially for an opt-in campaign.

Paul