Yep, and total disregard for whats right and wrong.

How we got to this level is beyond me...

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Ed Leafe wrote:

> OK, bear with me, 'cause I'm a little slow with this stuff...

>

> So Osama bin Laden was fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. Since

> the Russians were our enemies, that makes him our friend. But then we

> decide that Russians are our friends, so now, after arming bin Laden

> with millions of dollars worth of weaponry and training, now he's our

> enemy. Is that good so far?

>

> Now with Saddam, he was our friend because he was fighting Iran, who

> was our enemy. But then we started warming up to Iran, and started

> trading weapons with them. So that made Saddam our enemy. But now we

> hate Iran again, so why didn't we make him our friend this time? Every

> document recovered from the palace after our invasion showed that

> Saddam was keeping up a macho pose in order to keep Iran at bay. So he

> was the enemy of our enemy, and yet we invaded his country and killed

> him?

LOL! The insanity of politics! That's why I hate politics...it's

absolutely insane at many times.

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Ricardo, sometime you say the most ignorant things for being so

intelligent...

The US never had a goal of 'taking over Viet Nam' or Iraq for that

matter.

Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that was

the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute that

mission?

Answer carefully...

v/r

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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:59 PM

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Subject: Re: [OT] "The world should share the cost" of rebuilding the

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John Harvey wrote:

> I think we should just take over Iraq. Maybe we can call it

Middle-East

> Texas? Or, we could just take all their oil, or all the money they

have in

> their bank accounts, then we could leave. They need to pay for us

removing

> Satan Hussein and keeping him and his kids, and other idiots from

> slaughtering thousands of other Iraqis.

>=20

> JH

Ha! You weren't even able to take over Viet Nam, and you are still=20

licking your wounds. You'll never do it. But be my guest and try, the=20

world will be better off if you loose one or two generations of your

youth.

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Gee, if you are correct about the Geneva convention responsibility then

the US can't just up and quite Afghanistan or Iraq. I wonder if the

liberals in our country have taken that into consideration?

v/r

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From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On

Behalf Of Adam Buckland

Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:50 AM

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Subject: RE: [OT] "The world should share the cost" of rebuilding the

Afghanarmy-- McCain from today's speech

Geneva convention which the US is a signatory to says that if you go and

screw up a country in war you have to look after it and get it to a

stable position afterwards, hence the rebuilding of Germany and Japan

after WWII.

So what McCain is saying is basically... The coalition did this in

Afghanistan but everyone else should help pay for it to be cleared

up....

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Subject: [OT] "The world should share the cost" of rebuilding the Afghan

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Just heard this. Well I know that the U.S. would probably bear the most

burden on this measure, given the history in Iraq for sure.

Tell me: why must non-Afghan's pay for the increase of Afghanistan's=20

army to 160,000 (instead of the current 80,000)? To my knowledge, no=20

one pays for our army? Let's send food and health aid, but that's where

the dollars should stop, imo.

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6

MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe@macdill.af.mil> wrote:

> Ricardo, sometime you say the most ignorant things for being so

> intelligent...

>

> The US never had a goal of 'taking over Viet Nam' or Iraq for that

> matter.

>

> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that was

> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute that

> mission?

-------------------------------------------------------

Now that is funny. We went into Iraq under the guise of it is better

to get them there then they come over here. You think that for some

reason we would NOT take advantage of the HUGE oil potential that was

there? You have to be kidding me and yourself. It is the American

way. We do not care one iota about people when there are potential

profits to be made. Does outsource dome to mind?

I am sure that or VP Dickless was hoping to Imperialize the country

and get taxes on barrels of oil as a rebuilding surcharge, where we

were not bringing them back to the stone age they were in before the

invasion. No we were going to take the country to standard western

civilization standards, all with the help of his friends companies.

wink wink wink.

This also took the heat off of finding that bin Laden guy.

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

Mimeo.com

Memphis TN

901.246-0159

Stephen is right. The Republicans, Democrats, and the president ALL wanted

to go "OVER THERE" and get them before they came over here. And, we've had

how many terrorist attacks since 9/11? There have been several attempts, but

they got no bananas. Since we had to spend so much money to go over there,

they owe us. It's only fitting that we assimilate their country and make

them indentured servants for 7 years, and a few billion barrels of oil.<G>

JH

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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:15 AM

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6

MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe@macdill.af.mil> wrote:

> Ricardo, sometime you say the most ignorant things for being so

> intelligent...

>

> The US never had a goal of 'taking over Viet Nam' or Iraq for that

> matter.

>

> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that was

> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute that

> mission?

-------------------------------------------------------

Now that is funny. We went into Iraq under the guise of it is better

to get them there then they come over here. You think that for some

reason we would NOT take advantage of the HUGE oil potential that was

there? You have to be kidding me and yourself. It is the American

way. We do not care one iota about people when there are potential

profits to be made. Does outsource dome to mind?

I am sure that or VP Dickless was hoping to Imperialize the country

and get taxes on barrels of oil as a rebuilding surcharge, where we

were not bringing them back to the stone age they were in before the

invasion. No we were going to take the country to standard western

civilization standards, all with the help of his friends companies.

wink wink wink.

This also took the heat off of finding that bin Laden guy.

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

Mimeo.com

Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI

wrote:

> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that

> was

> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute

> that

> mission?

There is no doubt that we have the power to destroy just about any

country. But take it over? That means getting the people of the

country to accept our authority. I haven't met a group of people yet

that will not resist a foreign power taking over their land.

-- Ed Leafe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6

MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe@macdill.af.mil> wrote:

> Ricardo, sometime you say the most ignorant things for being so

> intelligent...

>

> The US never had a goal of 'taking over Viet Nam' or Iraq for that

> matter.

>

> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that was

> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute that

> mission?

>

> Answer carefully...

>

> v/r

>

>

> //SIGNED//

>

> Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF

> 6th MDG Data Services Manager

> 6th MDG Information System Security Officer

> Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On

> Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz

> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:59 PM

> To: ProFox Email List

> Subject: Re: [OT] "The world should share the cost" of rebuilding the

> Afghanarmy -- McCain from today's speech

>

> John Harvey wrote:

>> I think we should just take over Iraq. Maybe we can call it

> Middle-East

>> Texas? Or, we could just take all their oil, or all the money they

> have in

>> their bank accounts, then we could leave. They need to pay for us

> removing

>> Satan Hussein and keeping him and his kids, and other idiots from

>> slaughtering thousands of other Iraqis.

>>

>> JH

>

> Ha! You weren't even able to take over Viet Nam, and you are still

> licking your wounds. You'll never do it. But be my guest and try, the

> world will be better off if you loose one or two generations of your

> youth.

>

>

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Stephen Russell wrote:

> Now that is funny. We went into Iraq under the guise of it is better

> to get them there then they come over here. You think that for some

> reason we would NOT take advantage of the HUGE oil potential that was

> there? You have to be kidding me and yourself. It is the American

> way. We do not care one iota about people when there are potential

> profits to be made. Does outsource dome to mind?

Hey, I finally agree with you, buddy!

>

> I am sure that or VP Dickless was hoping to Imperialize the country

> and get taxes on barrels of oil as a rebuilding surcharge, where we

> were not bringing them back to the stone age they were in before the

> invasion. No we were going to take the country to standard western

> civilization standards, all with the help of his friends companies.

> wink wink wink.

>

> This also took the heat off of finding that bin Laden guy.

>

I think us trying to impose/push our way of life to others outside of

our borders is absolutely WRONG.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI

> wrote:

>

>> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that

>> was

>> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute

>> that

>> mission?

>

>

> There is no doubt that we have the power to destroy just about any

> country. But take it over? That means getting the people of the

> country to accept our authority. I haven't met a group of people yet

> that will not resist a foreign power taking over their land.

--------------------------

Like the Palestinians and the Jews?

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

Mimeo.com

Memphis TN

901.246-0159

Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

> Ricardo, sometime you say the most ignorant things for being so

> intelligent...

>

> The US never had a goal of 'taking over Viet Nam' or Iraq for that

> matter.

>

> Let's imagine that the US did want to 'take over' a country -- that was

> the number one mission - do you doubt we have the power to execute that

> mission?

>

> Answer carefully...

>

Tip.... toe....... verrrrry carrrrefullly, my precioussss.

You'd take the place, but you are being naif. There is no big treasure

to be stolen in a couple of hours. You have to KEEP the bloody place for

years in order to be able to steal enough to justify the taking. And

THAT's where you suck at it. Your ass was kicked in VN and it's being

kicked in Afghanistan (from the point of view of making some profit out

of the bloody mess), and they will eventually expel you just like VC did.