| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-01 | |||
| 19:33:14 | JayF | Although I guess you have that spot now :D | |
| 19:37:45 | gtema | JayF every time I was raising the discussion amount of "amusement" was very limited | |
| 19:38:36 | gtema | Unless we have more other cores supporting that it is going to be terrible hard | |
| 19:54:33 | JayF | Yeah, as I said originally; most opposition to *any* openstack proposal is "do we have enough hands to do it". Right now we don't have enough rust developers; but I'd assume such a move would be accompanied by an investment to ensure we did have them. Otherwise it'd just be a one person show, right? | |
| 20:04:52 | gtema | That should not be the reason to use ineffective tools for a job, but I know what you mean | |
| 20:12:56 | JayF | I just see it as an investment choice by our employers; if G-Research, for instance, had a use case or security concern that rustifying something openstack would help, we'd likely approach it with promises of ft engineers alongside the proposal. I do feel strongly that "ability to maintain" is a reasonable thing to consider when picking a tool. | |
| 20:17:54 | gtema | That didn't help kuryr, didn't help trove, senlin, Sahara etc (the list is very long), so in my eyes this is a misleading argument | |
| 20:19:03 | JayF | gtema: I suspect those projects being less maintained is more related to their relative popularity, especially among the companies that fund most openstack contribution. For instance, my downstream doesn't deploy *any* of the smaller openstack projects. | |
| 20:21:32 | gtema | So what would be the difference if those would be using different programming language. I just want to say that maintainability has not much to do with the programming language. Every task requires the correct tool and you will not use a screwdriver for fixing leaking pipes | |
| 20:25:16 | JayF | Maybe I'm telling on myself a little; but if you handed me "rust" as a tool I'm going to be really, really ineffective. It's a completely different paradigm than python -- and I, like some other openstack contributors, are as much "operators who learned python" as they are classical software developers, so it's a little more of a lift to change something so drastic. | |
| 20:25:53 | JayF | (full disclosure: I <3 rust from a what-it-does-with-memory-safety standpoint; I just don't know how to write it :D) | |
| 20:27:15 | gtema | I get you fully. But this argument should not be used to block others from sustainably improving security and performance of OpenStack when others are willing to do so. | |
| 20:28:19 | JayF | I've already indicated I would probably have +1'd such a proposal when I was on TC, even with these reservations :) | |
| 20:28:31 | JayF | so I agree with you on that, but I also think it's exceedingly reasonable to feel differently | |
| 20:28:45 | JayF | Hard questions with no right answers are pretty miserable :) | |
| 20:32:07 | gtema | Yes, sadly. I am just getting angry when people say: "I can't help you therefore I forbid you doing that" | |
| 20:33:28 | gtema | Anyway, if you are ever willing to kick that discussion again and search for support - you know where to find me ;-) | |
| 22:24:53 | adamcarthur5 | I am confident we can get this merged stephenfin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/928919?tab=comments | |
| 22:25:02 | adamcarthur5 | Testing code against a devstack here: https://gist.github.com/Sharpz7/97356eb57f77d3ee75892791c6cab155 | |
| 22:25:41 | adamcarthur5 | (I will eventually get this in the integration tests if it is not already) | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-03 | |||
| 12:12:35 | opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add inactive state for the images https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/881205 | |
| 12:14:46 | opendevreview | Gaël THEROND proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add module to filter available volume services. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/868480 | |
| 12:15:11 | opendevreview | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Fix typo in openstack.cloud.lb_pool https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/876879 | |
| 12:25:11 | opendevreview | Polina Gubina proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Firewall policy module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/880859 | |
| 12:25:17 | opendevreview | Polina Gubina proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Firewall rule module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/881402 | |
| 12:25:22 | opendevreview | Polina Gubina proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Shared file system module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/883201 | |
| 12:25:36 | opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: VPN ike policy module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/880531 | |
| 12:25:50 | opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: VPN ipsec policy module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/880534 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-07 | |||
| 07:12:20 | frickler | mikal: too bad you couldn't stay around, I haven't seen any failure. maybe show your error on paste.opendev.org next time | |
| 08:02:09 | dtantsur | JayF: check #gophercloud on kubernetes slack | |
| 09:31:22 | opendevreview | Mridula Joshi proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Updating image upload https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/881939 | |
| 09:35:50 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934219 | |
| 09:48:26 | opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add port bindings to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/915902 | |
| 10:29:57 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: identity: Add support for endpoint projects https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934161 | |
| 10:30:16 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-api-ref master: Mark sphinx extensions thread safe https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-api-ref/+/934151 | |
| 10:46:38 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient stable/2024.2: common: Use correct argument for volume limits https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934319 | |
| 11:57:36 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient stable/2024.2: Fix ignored --user-domain in role assignment list https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934152 | |
| 12:47:47 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient stable/2024.2: common: Use correct argument for volume limits https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934319 | |
| 13:06:16 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934219 | |
| 13:24:09 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934219 | |
| 15:10:13 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934219 | |
| 19:08:46 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: identity: Add support for project endpoints https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934364 | |
| 19:49:06 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934219 | |
| 20:04:51 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add module to filter available volume services. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/868480 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-08 | |||
| 15:56:47 | slaweq | gtema (Artem Goncharov) hi, can You check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/927727 ? It has couple of +2 from the Neutron cores already so maybe you could check and maybe even approve it :) Thx in advance | |
| 16:29:32 | stephenfin | slaweq: I got that | |
| 16:30:53 | gtema | thks | |
| 17:32:38 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add "trusted" attribute to the "port" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/927727 | |
| 19:03:12 | slaweq | Thx gtema (Artem Goncharov)and stephenfin | |
| 19:59:52 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 20:46:05 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 22:13:55 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-09 | |||
| 02:06:34 | opendevreview | Michael Still proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Timing tests should use a threshold. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934519 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-10 | |||
| 07:39:12 | opendevreview | Michael Still proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Timing tests should use a threshold. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934519 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-11 | |||
| 12:03:26 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 12:29:17 | ralonsoh | folks, the networking-ext CI is broken now, I've proposed some patches to fix that: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22psql-your-time-is-up%22 | |
| 12:29:25 | ralonsoh | I hope today we'll have the patches merged | |
| 16:32:45 | opendevreview | Markus Hentsch proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add disk_format 'luks' for image creation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934672 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-12 | |||
| 14:11:25 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Skip tips jobs on pre-commit config update https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934759 | |
| 14:23:47 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 14:28:02 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: pre-commit: Migrate pyupgrade to ruff-format https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/929160 | |
| 14:28:03 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: pre-commit: Bump versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934760 | |
| 15:36:40 | opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [DNS] Increase the zones quota before creating a new one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934762 | |
| 15:37:36 | opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [DNS] Increase the zones quota before creating a new one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934762 | |
| 16:06:20 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 17:46:14 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'endpoint' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934817 | |
| 18:01:24 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'endpoint' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934817 | |
| 18:07:46 | opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| 18:33:46 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'service provider' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/929961 | |
| 18:49:03 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'domain' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/923785 | |
| 18:57:59 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate `region` commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/930937 | |
| 19:41:23 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Skip tips jobs on pre-commit config update https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934759 | |
| 19:41:25 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: pre-commit: Bump versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934760 | |
| 20:27:38 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/codegenerator master: Fix codegeneration for placement esoterics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/codegenerator/+/934459 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-13 | |||
| 12:14:11 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: requirements: Remove unused test deps https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/934961 | |
| 12:24:54 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'domain' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/923785 | |
| 15:48:59 | opendevreview | Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Replace deprecated datetime.utcnow() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/930810 | |
| 16:45:02 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'domain' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/923785 | |
| 16:58:13 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: identity: Add tags, options to Domain https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934991 | |
| 18:12:16 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'trust' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/931694 | |
| 18:13:25 | opendevreview | Antonia Gaete proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: identity: Migrate 'credential' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/923674 | |
| 18:17:16 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Replace deprecated datetime.utcnow() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/930810 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-14 | |||
| 08:15:34 | opendevreview | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add the trunk subports information to the port list command https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/926611 | |
| 10:17:18 | opendevreview | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/935067 | |
| 10:17:40 | opendevreview | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-lib master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-lib/+/935071 | |
| 10:18:02 | opendevreview | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/935075 | |
| 10:28:14 | opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add port bindings to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/915902 | |
| 11:04:04 | opendevreview | Kaloyan Kotlarski proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add a list of Neutron port to attach when deploying an Ironic node https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/924914 | |
| 11:04:05 | opendevreview | Kaloyan Kotlarski proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Fix port fixed_ips idempotency issue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/902218 | |
| 11:04:23 | opendevreview | Kaloyan Kotlarski proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Fix port fixed_ips idempotency issue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/902218 | |
| 12:38:06 | opendevreview | Kaloyan Kotlarski proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add a list of Neutron port to attach when deploying an Ironic node https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/924914 | |
| 20:17:02 | opendevreview | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Replace netifaces with netifaces-2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/935222 | |
| 21:32:56 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/935067 | |
| 21:32:58 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/935075 | |
| 22:24:15 | opendevreview | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Fix swift metadata setting documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/935229 | |
| #openstack-sdks - 2024-11-15 | |||
| 00:24:08 | opendevreview | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Replace netifaces with netifaces-2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/935222 | |
| 09:59:50 | frickler | gtema: stephenfin: please check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934141 , while I haven't been able to reproduce it with my test patch so far, I do keep seeing gate failures matching the pattern | |
| 10:01:25 | gtema | ack, perhaps we can try to have only unittest for that case | |
| 12:29:32 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Skip disabling compute service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/934141 | |
| 15:38:35 | stephenfin | gtema: antoniagaete: M0weng[m]: I won't make it to the meeting today again, I'm afraid. Feel free to direct any questions for me this way though | |