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11:27:54 opendevreview Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: tests: Migrate tests from os-hosts to os-services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/889887
12:12:34 opendevreview Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: tests: Move cloud-layer service tests to their own file https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891217
12:21:12 opendevreview Baek Seung Ju proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implemented heat 'stack suspend' and 'stack resume' function https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892156
12:38:11 opendevreview YeJun, Jung proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for other metadef property operations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/857727
12:43:50 opendevreview YeJun, Jung proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for other metadef property operations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/857727
12:52:31 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Migrate 'availability zone list' to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885135
12:52:32 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove project purge image commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885528
12:52:32 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Migrate 'extension list' to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885139
12:52:33 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Use consistent shortcut to fake network client https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/892788
12:52:33 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Remove FakeNetworkV2Client https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885526
12:52:34 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Remove FakeImagev1Client, FakeImagev2Client https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885529
12:52:34 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Add network v2 FakeClientMixin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885527
12:52:35 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Add image v1, v2 FakeClientMixin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/885530
12:52:35 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: tests: Use consistent shortcut to fake image client https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/892789
13:56:57 opendevreview kim woo seok proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implement stack export in openstacksdk https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891249
14:22:36 opendevreview YeJun, Jung proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for other metadef property operations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/857727
14:27:15 chris218 Hey so I'm using openstacksdk to manage servers through objects that persist for long time in my app, should I create Connection with openstack.connect() on demand when I want to interact with Openstack or can I save it as an attribute and close in for example __del__?
14:40:08 opendevreview SongSuheon proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implement heat 'stack event list' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892836
15:07:38 rladntjr4 Hello! i want to contribute python-openstackcli. i have a few question. Is this the right place to ask questions?
15:16:22 opendevreview Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: identity: Add support for domain config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891681
15:18:53 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: block storage: Add query string params for many APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892974
15:19:39 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Migrate 'volume group snapshot' commands to SDK https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/892975
15:22:15 opendevreview Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [DNM] Experiment with OpenAPI schema https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892161
15:23:57 gtema stephenfin: I have updated openapi experiment with few more calls and few random server actions to show how it can be looking like
15:24:29 stephenfin ack, it's on my list to look at before EOD else tomorrow morning
15:24:35 stephenfin rladntjr4: it is
15:24:51 stephenfin just be aware that delays can be slow
15:25:29 gtema thanks stephenfin. I think it is now more then experiment and looks really reasonable in my eyes
15:28:05 stephenfin chris218: tbh, I don't think we have any guidance on that. However, many of the OpenStack services create a session once on start up and then generate a new client each time they need one
15:28:44 stephenfin My gut would suggest opening on demand would likely be more reliable and take you less off the beaten track that saving it and opening/closing manually
15:28:56 stephenfin but maybe gtema has more ideas
15:30:30 gtema well, I think it depends on the "how long". In principle it is ok to keep session open and I have an app that runs in the container with a session pretty much endless, but I do not manage servers this way.
15:30:59 gtema another example would be Zuul which also keeps the session and does activity pretty much permanently with no issues
15:31:18 gtema so I would rather first try to open session on demand and keep it open forever
15:32:16 gtema if you start facing issues - closing session should be also not a problem, but remember every re-connection is causing a new API call to the Keystone (auth_token), so there is additional "overhead" in that
15:33:45 gtema stephenfin - any urgent change to be included in the release? I am going to update release change once stack_export merges and it can be released today/tomorrow
15:34:05 chris218 so if I understand it correctly session != connection, right? so how can I create session with openstacksdk?
15:34:10 stephenfin for sdk? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892974 would be nice
15:34:45 gtema chris218: in principle it is equal, technically not, but highlevel it is
15:34:46 stephenfin oh, maybe also https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/889984 so I can continue with that work
15:35:17 gtema rojer
15:42:31 rladntjr4 i found some happen in 'server list -c ' command. The code contains a case that handles lowercase, but it does not work.
15:42:42 rladntjr4 so i fix it. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/892830
15:43:01 rladntjr4 i wonder if this is the way you want.
15:44:20 rladntjr4 i think only 'server list -c ' support this features.
15:51:43 opendevreview kim woo seok proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implement stack export in openstacksdk https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891249
16:05:09 opendevreview Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [WIP] Add OpenAPI invokation interface https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892161
16:09:50 opendevreview Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [WIP] Add OpenAPI invocation interface https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892161
16:48:23 andrewbogott_ Before I start writing patches, I would like someone to read https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2010784 and confirm or deny that the problem I'm describing is an actual problem. I think in theory I'm supposed to ping gtema with this question but so far haven't had any luck with that so I'd appreciate comments from basically anyone else.
16:48:46 andrewbogott_ The short version of that task is: adopting clouds.yaml as the source of auth truth breaks a whole lot of admin-account-based workflows
17:06:45 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: docs: Add missing docs for identity resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891682
17:06:46 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: docs: Add missing docs for block storage resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891684
17:06:46 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: docs: Add missing docs for compute resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891683
17:06:47 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: block storage: Add missing docstrings https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891686
17:06:47 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: compute: Add missing docstrings https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891685
17:06:48 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: docs: Document various warnings https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891688
17:06:48 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: baremetal: Add missing docstrings https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891687
17:06:49 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: docs: Add exception documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891689
17:06:50 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: WIP: tox: Add coverage docs builder https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/891690
17:08:23 stephenfin gtema: It would be good to get those doc patches in also, but they're not urgent
17:08:34 stephenfin they are, however, quite useful
17:08:46 stephenfin ...if I do say so myself :)
17:08:50 stephenfin andrewbogott_: looking
17:08:56 andrewbogott_ thank you!
17:10:13 stephenfin Okay, so suggestion is that environment variables should trump cloud variables. This is complicated because of how much the options can potentially layer over each other
17:10:28 andrewbogott_ Can you give me an example?
17:10:36 andrewbogott_ (Or, maybe better to discuss on the task)
17:12:54 andrewbogott_ mostly I want the --os-<whatever> args to trump, but maybe in code that's the same thing as the env variables
17:13:04 stephenfin auth types would be the first thing that jumps to mind because it's been a source of bugs
17:13:29 andrewbogott_ I'm not sure I know what 'auth types' means
17:14:07 andrewbogott_ you mean like admin/public/internal?
17:14:07 stephenfin ah, the 'auth_types' setting in cloud.conf / 'OS_AUTH_TYPE' envvar lets us determine which keystone authentication type to use
17:14:22 stephenfin v3password, v3token, v3applicationcredential etc.
17:14:28 andrewbogott_ oh, I see
17:14:33 stephenfin Setting 'clouds.$cloud.auth_type' completely changes what we look for in 'clouds.$cloud.auth'
17:15:36 stephenfin iirc if it's 'auth_type=v3applicationcredential' but a user sets 'OS_PASSWORD', then we try passing passwords also
17:16:06 andrewbogott_ huh... that seems wrong to me but probably you've already had that conversation :)
17:16:31 stephenfin It is. Unfortunately keystoneauth is a rats nest :)
17:16:57 andrewbogott_ That I know from experience
17:17:27 opendevreview SongSuheon proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implement heat 'stack event list' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892836
17:17:29 stephenfin however, that's kind of tangential to what you're asking
17:17:36 andrewbogott_ So what instead of saying 'env variables trump clouds variables' we say 'select env variables trump clouds variables'
17:17:53 andrewbogott_ and start with project/domain being part of that select
17:19:45 andrewbogott_ Sorry, that was confusing, I'll try again: What if the task is "Allow CLI and env to override the project specified in clouds.yaml"? That would fix /my/ workflows I think.
17:20:26 andrewbogott_ hm. The fact that the same variable OS_PROJECT is used for auth and also used to affect what the command does seems broken either way :(
17:21:03 stephenfin what do you mean?
17:22:29 stephenfin btw, the commands that allow you to specify '--project' rely on server-side support. OSC is merely exposing that. I would guess that those will not be usable by users with standard project-scoped tokens in the future but I can't say for sure
17:22:46 andrewbogott_ Eh, I guess that isn't really right, if you don't have auth in a project you shouldn't be able to do things there anyway.
17:23:09 stephenfin '--os-project' is the keystone thing
17:24:11 andrewbogott_ sorry, had to answer the phone and got confused :)
17:24:46 opendevreview SongSuheon proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Implement heat 'stack event list' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/892836
17:24:52 stephenfin I have no issues with allowing overriding of clouds.yaml config with CLI args and env vars
17:24:54 andrewbogott_ But yeah, I realize that the --project thing is only selectively implemented for some commands.
17:25:14 andrewbogott_ stephenfin: ok then :) I will try to write a patch, and see how lost I get.
17:25:29 andrewbogott_ Do you think the change should be for /all/ CLI args and env vars, or only for a limited list?
17:25:35 stephenfin I would just ask that we provide a mechanism to disable the env var aspect or set the env var prefix to something other than 'OS_' (if that doesn't exist already)
17:26:04 andrewbogott_ hm...
17:26:17 andrewbogott_ a mechanism other than "Don't set that in your env if you don't want it in your env"?
17:26:48 gtema I was thinking quite some time about that. I think what should always win is "--os-XX" argument.
17:26:59 gtema I would personally even kill the whole env part as such

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