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#openstack-sdks - 2021-03-18
16:16:14 amotoki so stable branches can help us regarding backports.
16:16:36 stephenfin and you can use new OSC versions with old service versions
16:16:49 stephenfin Hmm, can we get stable branches that are based on releases instead?
16:16:58 stephenfin i.e. stable/5.0 ?
16:17:14 gtema ugh, that's interesting
16:17:14 stephenfin Maybe that's too much work unless we're very careful about how often we release
16:17:37 amotoki it is debatable. we cover most releases, so it is not a problem for most cases I think,
16:17:59 gtema I actually dislike heavily stable branches for SDK and OSC. They are made to be always backward compatible
16:18:04 amotoki so I don't have strong preference on this
16:18:24 stephenfin gtema: True, though we do occasionally do things like drop Python versions
16:18:32 gtema yes
16:18:53 gtema and we are also potentially caught in the service using dedicated version of SDK
16:18:54 stephenfin that's less of an issue for OSC though, since that's only used in the client environment
16:19:16 stephenfin yeah, more of an issues for sdk since that can be embedded in the service
16:19:19 gtema I would be careful here
16:19:23 amotoki yes for most cases. no stable branches sometimes disallow us to fix bugs in released versions
16:19:37 amotoki that's all I see as a minus point.
16:19:46 amotoki but that would be minor.
16:20:00 stephenfin let me think about it more and maybe discuss with release management folks
16:20:03 amotoki I mean big fixes
16:20:03 gtema recently I landed image command redesign (to rely on SDK) and some time later figured out that some other dependent client got broken by that
16:20:18 gtema I guess it was masakari
16:20:30 stephenfin It's not high priority. It just occurred to me that we might want to change things when gtema was working through patches ahead of the release
16:20:57 stephenfin amotoki: Yeah, that's a good point. I'll pay particular attention to this
16:21:19 gtema it clear stephenfin and I am also currently "bombed" by release team wishing a release of OSC
16:21:33 stephenfin do you need help?
16:21:47 stephenfin I've got some spare time at the moment since nova is in feature freeze
16:21:57 stephenfin not much but some :)
16:21:58 gtema well, it's generally just cur a release
16:22:05 gtema cut
16:22:39 gtema and I landed today few things, one self-approved with project cleanup, since around a year it lacks reviews, but people permanently ask for it
16:22:51 gtema so I guess we can cut release now
16:23:10 stephenfin Oh, yes, I saw that. I thought we were still waiting for the openstacksdk side of that to merge so I hadn't reviewed it. Sorry /o\
16:23:21 amotoki antoher way is to overcome it by cutting more releases from master branch independently from OpenStack release cycle
16:23:24 gtema it landed actually 1,5 year ago
16:23:46 stephenfin gtema: Ouch. Then I'm doubly sorry. I missed that
16:23:47 amotoki but we still need to take into account our OpenStack distributors like RHOSP
16:23:49 diablo_rojo I could probably help with that if you need too. I vaguely remember how to do it.
16:23:53 stephenfin fwiw, I reviewed this morning and it looks good to me
16:23:56 gtema there is continuous place for improvement and adding new services inside, but OSC side is now at least capable calling it
16:25:11 stephenfin amotoki: Also a good idea. fwiw, we're having discussions about how we can improve our OSC situation internally at the moment. We kind of ignore it now (as in there is no one person in charge of it) since most people are using OSC from their clients which aren't necessarily running the same stack as their servers
16:25:40 stephenfin so RHOSP shouldn't be a major concern in any changes to lifecycle, IMO
16:25:49 stephenfin I can't speak for any other distro, however
16:26:00 gtema dear RedHatters - clarify it ;-)
16:26:44 gtema I see lot of "distos" and cloud providers try to tie to the release
16:26:56 openstackgerrit James Palmer proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for Resource Filters https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/776271
16:26:57 gtema and always they consider SDK/OSC part of that
16:27:14 amotoki thanks, so perhaps it is better to keep our release on OSC/SDK from the mater continuously
16:27:30 stephenfin mordred: Horizon either. It's not classed as core, I guess
16:27:39 stephenfin even though it's what 90% of users see, I know
16:28:01 amotoki hehe, as my hat of horizon, horizon faield to support system-scope in Wallaby :-(
16:28:03 stephenfin gtema: If we're cutting a release, do we want to go through the final few "not in merge conflict" patches for OSC and see if any are good to go?
16:28:16 stephenfin Or should we just cut and punt those to the next release?
16:28:30 gtema stephenfin - yupp, let's do that
16:28:38 stephenfin Okay, I'll spend tomorrow at that so
16:28:45 gtema I mean the first one (time lag is killing the sense)
16:28:49 stephenfin oh
16:28:55 stephenfin okay yeah
16:29:27 stephenfin I see about 30 or so, and many more in merge conflict. Will see how many are ready to roll and defer the rest
16:29:34 stephenfin This will be a big release
16:29:50 gtema yupp, but moslty only covering gaps
16:30:08 stephenfin Yeah, true
16:30:17 diablo_rojo Even still, exciting to have progress on things
16:30:23 stephenfin indeed
16:30:51 gtema yeah, I sadly admit I failed to complete switch of compute things to use SDK
16:31:14 gtema started good but then lost the track
16:31:53 gtema and then figured out that for SDK R1 we also need lot of love in parallel
16:32:40 gtema anything else we want to discuss?
16:32:56 stephenfin not from me
16:33:26 amotoki nothing from me too
16:33:47 amotoki this timeslot per month works for me :)
16:33:58 gtema great
16:34:18 gtema okay, then I wish everybody a nice day/evening/sleep
16:34:30 gtema #endmeeting
16:34:32 openstack Meeting ended Thu Mar 18 16:34:30 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:34:33 openstack Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sdk_osc/2021/sdk_osc.2021-03-18-16.00.html
16:34:35 openstack Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sdk_osc/2021/sdk_osc.2021-03-18-16.00.txt
16:34:36 openstack Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sdk_osc/2021/sdk_osc.2021-03-18-16.00.log.html
16:34:44 amotoki thanks all!
16:34:58 gtema see ya
17:24:30 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Add set_readonly_volume to BlockStorageCloudMixin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/776266
#openstack-sdks - 2021-03-19
11:58:25 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Add 'volumn message *' commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/781637
12:12:17 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Support create subnet with same network name in different project https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/476414
13:11:27 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/cliff stable/wallaby: Update .gitreview for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cliff/+/781692
13:11:35 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/cliff stable/wallaby: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cliff/+/781694
13:11:53 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/cliff master: Add Python3 xena unit tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cliff/+/781695
13:12:53 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/openstacksdk stable/wallaby: Update .gitreview for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/781697
13:13:13 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/openstacksdk stable/wallaby: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/781699
13:13:18 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update master for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/781700
13:13:35 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-lib stable/wallaby: Update .gitreview for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-lib/+/781701
13:13:39 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-lib stable/wallaby: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-lib/+/781702
13:13:42 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Update master for stable/wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-lib/+/781703
13:14:00 openstackgerrit OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Add Python3 xena unit tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-lib/+/781704
15:46:10 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Add 'volumn message *' commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/781637
15:47:27 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Add 'volume message *' commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/781637
16:32:22 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add "volume snapshot manage & unmanage" commands in volume v2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/420416
16:32:23 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Re-add accidentally deleted test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/781816
16:51:35 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: volume: Add 'volume qos set --no-property' option https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/433451
18:39:40 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: network: Make 'network qos rule create --type' option required https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/454575
18:43:37 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Hides prefix_length column in subnet show output https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/630703

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