Posted	Nick	Remark
#openstack-sdks - 2018-07-27
15:37:57	mordred	if you wanna +A it (once zuul is happy again)
15:51:59	corvus	mordred: +2
15:53:58	mordred	corvus: hrm. should probably add a release note to that change since it'll be the only change in a bugfix release
15:54:12	mordred	answering "why does this bugfix release exist" is usually a good thing to do
15:54:34	mordred	k
15:54:36	mordred	gah
15:54:38	corvus	mordred: i would have thought the answer to that would be obvious! (because there was a bug!) ;)
15:54:43	mordred	hehehe
15:57:42	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update create_object to handled chunked data https://review.openstack.org/585532
15:57:44	mordred	corvus: ^^
15:58:26	corvus	+2
16:01:32	mordred	corvus: actualy - crappit - we need to land it on stable/rocky - https://review.openstack.org/586605 Update create_object to handled chunked data
16:01:36	mordred	Shrews: ^^ got a sec?
16:01:52	Shrews	aye
16:02:14	mordred	Shrews: the master version of the patch has run through tests a few times already
16:02:35	corvus	i don't think i will ever understand why openstacksdk has a stable branch.
16:02:47	corvus	i've had it explained to me before
16:02:51	corvus	in one ear and out the other
16:02:56	mordred	yah. I hear you
16:03:20	mordred	corvus: openstacksdk makes more sense than shade did - mainly because it actually is used inside of some of the openstack services
16:03:50	corvus	mordred: where's the release going to come from?
16:04:02	Shrews	mordred: +2/+A and +1 (can't +2 stable)
16:04:09	mordred	oh - I should fix that
16:04:41	mordred	corvus, Shrews: you've both been added to openstacksdk-stable-maint
16:04:57	mordred	corvus: the 0.17.1 release will get cut from the stable/rocky branch
16:05:21	corvus	mordred: when do you start cutting releases from master again?
16:05:44	corvus	(also, if this is documented somewhere, feel free to tell me to rtfm)
16:05:54	mordred	once all of the server projects have their stable/rocky branches cut and the freeze is lifted
16:06:10	corvus	ok. kinda sorta makes sense.
16:06:24	corvus	i'll stop asking questions to reduce the risk of that changing. :)
16:06:33	mordred	corvus: smcginnis sent out an email with the subject "Release countdown for week R-4" if you want to read more
16:07:12	mordred	corvus: it's definitely taken some getting used to - I still don't have my head fully wrapped around it - but I'm doing better this cycle than last cycle
16:11:56	mordred	corvus, Shrews: also - I think I want to remove the auto-creation of container from the sdk create_object call - corvus' work here shows it's actually not a great idea
16:12:08	mordred	but for backwards compat, we'll keep it in the shade version
16:12:17	mordred	sound ok to y'all?
16:12:48	Shrews	mordred: yeah, though i'm curious why it was there in there in the 1st place. didn't i comment that bit?
16:13:19	Shrews	# On some clouds this is not necessary. On others it is. I'm confused.
16:13:33	Shrews	i guess i'm still confused
16:13:35	Shrews	:)
16:13:37	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add method for returning a raw response for an object https://review.openstack.org/586262
16:13:43	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for streaming object responses https://review.openstack.org/586250
16:14:06	mordred	Shrews: so say we all
16:34:03	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove the auto-creation of containers in create_object https://review.openstack.org/586616
16:51:57	openstackgerrit	Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Revert "Fixes a bug with issubclass() being called on an instance" https://review.openstack.org/586617
16:53:28	amotoki	dtroyer: mordred: osc-lib 1.11.0 release breaks OSC plugins (at least neutronclient OSC plugin). the above revert will fix it. could you check it as you two reviewed the reverted patch?
17:22:14	openstackgerrit	Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add a simple baremetal functional job https://review.openstack.org/586574
19:37:07	openstackgerrit	Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Update create_object to handled chunked data https://review.openstack.org/585532
20:44:42	openstackgerrit	Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: [WIP] Support enable/disable uplink status propagation https://review.openstack.org/586684
21:04:55	openstackgerrit	Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: [WIP] Add propagate_uplink_status to port https://review.openstack.org/586687
23:12:02	mordred	amotoki: whoops! the issubclass/isinstance swap was drivenby python 3.7 being more strict about using isinstance. but I agree - this case looks like we read the code wrong and that does look like it's a class
23:12:43	mordred	now - need to look at why that functional test failed
23:15:52	openstackgerrit	Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Support for microversions in base Resource https://review.openstack.org/583491
23:39:13	mordred	amotoki: it looks like osc functional tests got broken by glance v1 not being available
23:39:26	mordred	http://logs.openstack.org/17/586617/1/check/osc-functional-devstack/7218285/testr_results.html.gz
23:50:59	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for streaming object responses https://review.openstack.org/586250
23:50:59	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add method for returning a raw response for an object https://review.openstack.org/586262
23:51:00	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update config doc url to point to openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/586726
23:51:00	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove the auto-creation of containers in create_object https://review.openstack.org/586616
23:51:01	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle image and object key metadata for shade transition https://review.openstack.org/586727
23:52:39	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Defer object interactions to openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/586728
23:57:10	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Defer object interactions to openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/586728
#openstack-sdks - 2018-07-28
15:23:14	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove deprecated profile and authenticator parameters https://review.openstack.org/586822
15:56:09	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove the auto-creation of containers in create_object https://review.openstack.org/586616
15:56:10	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Handle image and object key metadata for shade transition https://review.openstack.org/586727
15:56:10	openstackgerrit	Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Update config doc url to point to openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/586726
19:31:29	openstackgerrit	Vieri proposed openstack/osc-lib master: Update image link https://review.openstack.org/586837
#openstack-sdks - 2018-07-30
02:14:54	chenyb4	hi, mordred
02:25:44	chenyb4	mordred, openstacksdk already supports microversions?
09:27:40	openstackgerrit	tianhui proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Compute: Add tags support for server https://review.openstack.org/569386
10:46:11	openstackgerrit	Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add a simple baremetal functional job https://review.openstack.org/586574
10:49:12	openstackgerrit	yanpuqing proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add an error message when router add subnet https://review.openstack.org/586996
11:25:13	openstackgerrit	Fan Zhang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove image api v1 related tests. https://review.openstack.org/587005
11:34:18	openstackgerrit	Fan Zhang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove volume replication v1 support. https://review.openstack.org/587008
11:39:40	openstackgerrit	Fan Zhang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Remove volume replication v1 support. https://review.openstack.org/587008
12:30:02	openstackgerrit	Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add a simple baremetal functional job https://review.openstack.org/586574
12:38:03	mordred	chenyb4: yes. but we have not exposed microversion features in many places yet
12:38:22	mordred	wow. that was bad timing
12:38:56	cdent	mordred: you might care about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586212/
12:42:06	mordred	cdent: looks reasonable to me
12:42:41	cdent	mordred: the reason I pinged you is because our comments on its antecedent didn't like the fact that it didn't mention designate
12:50:03	mordred	cdent: yeah - I still don't like the fact that it doesn't mention designate
12:50:27	cdent	mordred: nows your chance!!!!
12:50:28	cdent	:)
12:51:27	mordred	cdent: well, I think sean made a good point before - which is that there are many places, such as inside of corporatation, where deploying a dns server is unduly hard
12:51:45	mordred	I think those places are sad making - but I'm willing to concede they exist
12:52:34	cdent	My breain is slowly migrating towards "if this really is _starter_ kit, no cinder"
12:53:17	mordred	yeah, I hear that - otoh, the description said 'persistent vm'
12:53:41	mordred	and just doing a vm with no volumes is probaby not a great plan for persistent
12:53:56	mordred	that said - sure - possibly for starter kit it wants to just be ephemeral vms
12:54:33	mordred	my hunch is that people just getting their feet wet are more likely to have workloads that want a thing that looks lke a computer more than they want a thing that behaves like an ephemeral cloud-native workload
12:54:57	mordred	especially in a world with docker and kubernetes
12:55:31	mordred	but now I'm just getting close to complaining about the tragedy that are floating ips
12:56:12	mordred	cdent: dude. I'm still first-coffee - all these words are almost certainly crap
12:56:48	cdent	wave off wave off
12:57:00	cdent	there is no discussion of floating ips here!
12:57:23	mordred	PHEW
12:57:41	mordred	cdent: although - if you let me rant about floating ips, it'll get back to dns
12:57:58	cdent	Let's do that another time.
12:58:32	cdent	I have covered my obligation to ping on this thing and the world is thus a slightly better place.
12:58:40	mordred	since part of the problem with the design of openstack is that it's very hard to find the IP you should use to talk to a server - floating vs. fixed, ipv4 vs. ipv6 - and exposing that info via dns would make that much nicer ...

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