| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2026-06-15 | |||
| 15:43:36 | bauzas | if the scheduler provides limits, we could provide them to the conductor and then the compute | |
| 15:43:40 | sean-k-mooney | not for numa without pagesize | |
| 15:44:02 | bauzas | then the scheduler shouldn't provide the limits | |
| 15:44:06 | bauzas | right? | |
| 15:46:41 | sean-k-mooney | sorry im not following the question | |
| 15:47:12 | bauzas | lemme explain it better my question | |
| 15:48:09 | bauzas | if we don't want nova to accept flavors asking numa cores with no page sizes, then we should not pass limits down to the conductor | |
| 15:48:46 | sean-k-mooney | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-wallaby-ptg#L712 | |
| 15:48:52 | bauzas | if we're passing scheduler limits to the conductor, this means "oh, yeah, I accept this instance, please check those limits when you run the claims" | |
| 15:48:56 | sean-k-mooney | that was the last time i brought up chagnitn this at the ptg | |
| 15:49:17 | bauzas | sorry, my brain is bad about remembering things in general :-( | |
| 15:49:21 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: the limits we are checkign are cpu ram and disk | |
| 15:49:29 | sean-k-mooney | those are enfocced by placment at the host level | |
| 15:49:42 | sean-k-mooney | the have never applied with the host at the numa level | |
| 15:49:45 | bauzas | like, I wasn't even to recollate the bug with my own numa vswitches | |
| 15:50:36 | sean-k-mooney | that whwere the diconnect is. we have never considerd the allcation tratios when it comes to numa affinity | |
| 15:52:19 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: back in wallaby https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/r.321f34cf3eb9caa9d87a9ec8349c3d29#L712 we agreed an aproch to adress this so that any numa instance woudl be give a hw:mem_page_size if not set | |
| 15:52:42 | sean-k-mooney | that didnt happen because it was internally depriorised by our pm so i didnt end up workign on that | |
| 15:53:12 | bauzas | thanks, again, I wasn't able to remember this, sorry | |
| 15:54:05 | bauzas | but now we stora kind of accepting those flavors and we can't say 'well, doh, we don't support this, thanks' | |
| 15:54:10 | sean-k-mooney | no worries. so to have a path forward, i have no issues with passing limit when they shoudl be passed, and i have no issue with closign this numa footgun | |
| 15:54:17 | bauzas | I'm looking at the upstream docs to see whether we call it | |
| 15:54:49 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: ya that has been the main concurn how do we fix this without breakign upgrades | |
| 15:55:33 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: so, to clarify, you say "let's provide limits when we have them, but let's not pass those limits if those shouldn't be supported". Am I correct with this assumptio ? | |
| 15:56:10 | sean-k-mooney | more or less. | |
| 15:56:40 | sean-k-mooney | im kind fo ok wiht alwasy passign them but my main issue with the bug is expecting that nova will do the numa blancing as a side effeict | |
| 15:56:53 | sean-k-mooney | it might but that was never inteded to work | |
| 15:57:06 | bauzas | hmmmm | |
| 15:57:28 | bauzas | (I'm trying to find how we couldn't provide the limits if we have a specific flavor) | |
| 15:57:56 | bauzas | well, not really 'how' but 'where' | |
| 15:57:56 | sean-k-mooney | its a littel tricky because you can change the limite via placement | |
| 15:58:10 | bauzas | yeah | |
| 15:58:39 | sean-k-mooney | so there are 2 sepreate thing there are the numa toplogy constratis which we can create form flavor and iamge metadta | |
| 15:58:49 | sean-k-mooney | and seperate there is the limige for the allcoation ratios | |
| 15:59:06 | opendevreview | huangjs3 proposed openstack/nova master: cpu monitor: split zero/negative cputime paths https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/993205 | |
| 15:59:09 | sean-k-mooney | i think we get those in the prover summaries | |
| 15:59:20 | sean-k-mooney | but i think the metign is stating now issh? | |
| 15:59:34 | sean-k-mooney | so we can pick this up after | |
| 15:59:58 | opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | |
| 15:59:58 | opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:59:58 | opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Jun 15 15:59:58 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Uggla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |
| 15:59:58 | Uggla | #startmeeting nova | |
| 16:00:06 | Uggla | Hello everyone | |
| 16:01:27 | jayaanand | hi | |
| 16:01:31 | sambork | o/ | |
| 16:02:03 | Uggla | starting in a mn. | |
| 16:02:11 | erlon | \o | |
| 16:02:20 | gibi | o/ | |
| 16:02:53 | bauzas | o/ | |
| 16:03:02 | fwiesel | o/ | |
| 16:03:32 | Uggla | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | |
| 16:03:37 | Uggla | #info No Critical bug | |
| 16:03:44 | Uggla | #topic Gate status | |
| 16:03:51 | Uggla | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | |
| 16:03:51 | dansmith | o/ | |
| 16:03:57 | tkajinam | o/ | |
| 16:03:58 | Uggla | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal | |
| 16:04:05 | Uggla | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | |
| 16:04:11 | Uggla | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | |
| 16:04:17 | Uggla | #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck | |
| 16:05:04 | Uggla | I have not seen something special with the gate. Last week we had 2 bugs that progressed thx to gibi | |
| 16:05:09 | Uggla | #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2155773 entered by Gibi. Seems to be a duplicate. | |
| 16:05:14 | Uggla | #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2155462 entered by Helen. Valid one in progress. | |
| 16:05:23 | sean-k-mooney | o/ | |
| 16:05:23 | Uggla | anything you want to say about them gibi ? | |
| 16:06:06 | gibi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2155773 as been fixed by melwitt. thanks for the fix | |
| 16:06:26 | Uggla | \o/ | |
| 16:06:52 | sean-k-mooney | i belvie gibes bug was the orginal but its fixed in any case | |
| 16:06:52 | gibi | I have no news on the second one | |
| 16:06:57 | gibi | yea | |
| 16:06:58 | gibi | h | |
| 16:07:01 | gibi | but no wories | |
| 16:07:25 | Uggla | good so moving on. | |
| 16:07:31 | Uggla | #topic Release Planning | |
| 16:07:38 | Uggla | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html | |
| 16:07:43 | Uggla | #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule | |
| 16:07:49 | Uggla | #info PTG etherpad for 2026.2 is available: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-ptg | |
| 16:07:55 | Uggla | #info Spec freeze was last week. | |
| 16:08:05 | Uggla | #topic Review priorities | |
| 16:08:10 | Uggla | #link New file for Hibiscus https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.2-status | |
| 16:08:17 | Uggla | #info I have updated Launchpad and the above doc. Please ping me if you spot something missing. | |
| 16:08:32 | Uggla | #info 471815: Expose vlan trunking in metadata/configdrive | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/471815 --> Sean +2, Gibi +1 thanks. Can we make a exception on that one. | |
| 16:09:27 | Uggla | I'd like to have a little exception on that one to let cardoe answer. I could not last weak. So unless someone is really against that, let's have a couple of days to approved that one. | |
| 16:09:45 | Uggla | s/I/he | |
| 16:09:59 | gibi | do we have some cores with capacity to review the impl this cycle? | |
| 16:10:19 | bauzas | - | |
| 16:12:25 | sean-k-mooney | i will make room if someone else can | |
| 16:12:40 | Uggla | gibi, as you were almost +2, I thought it was possible. | |
| 16:12:41 | sean-k-mooney | but ya that the main open for this to proceed | |
| 16:13:33 | gibi | I was +2 before and the change since then is just typo fixes. I kept my vote on +1 due to: | |
| 16:13:36 | Uggla | but yes if no cores have the bandwith to review this, no exception is needed. | |
| 16:13:36 | gibi | having an open question in the spec around exposing the host devname to the guest. | |
| 16:13:39 | gibi | not able to commit to the implementation review in this cycle. | |
| 16:13:53 | gibi | this was what I wrote when I voted +1 | |
| 16:14:22 | Uggla | ok | |
| 16:15:35 | Uggla | so I have the feeling it is blocked. So moving on. | |
| 16:15:49 | Uggla | Elod is on pto so skipping his topic | |
| 16:15:55 | Uggla | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | |
| 16:16:02 | fwiesel | Hi, no updates from my side. | |
| 16:16:07 | Uggla | ok thx | |