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#openstack-nova - 2025-12-05
10:18:51 noonedeadpunk yeah, I knew about os_type, but I didn't know about hidden logic behind it:)
10:19:35 noonedeadpunk will propose documentation update probably :)
10:19:58 gibi noonedeadpunk: thanks
10:32:57 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Upgrade note for concurrency mode default change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969888
10:33:49 gibi gmaan: sean-k-mooney: dansmith: ^^ this is what I come up with based on the discussion about the upgrade impact of eventlet removal and our default mode change in G
10:54:20 opendevreview Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use SDK for Neutron Ports https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969298
11:00:46 sean-k-mooney gibi: im not sure i agree with the recommendation to decouple the cahnge in mode in gerneal but its a more reasonable recomendtion for slurp upgrades
11:01:49 sean-k-mooney i dont really think we shoudl be recommendign that operators every use the env var out side of optin in to threadign to test early
11:02:15 sean-k-mooney it does exist as an escape hatch if we messed up
11:03:10 sean-k-mooney so i dont object to it existing just that for me makeing the swtich trasnparent to the end user is very imporant but i get the performance tuning concern
11:03:54 sean-k-mooney gibi: do we know if any of the larger operators have started testign treading mode since the 2025.2 release?
11:15:53 opendevreview Will Szumski proposed openstack/nova master: Fix race betweem instance claim and anti affinity check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969894
11:15:53 opendevreview Will Szumski proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Adds regression test for bug LP#2132984 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969380
12:14:49 gibi sean-k-mooney: I got no indication if any large operator testing or tested threading mode in nova
12:16:03 gibi sean-k-mooney: I think one of the main reason to have a way to switch between modes is to avoid big bang integration of the threading mode during upgrade. Especially due to the performance tuning needs.
12:16:46 gibi sean-k-mooney: if it helps then I can try to give an oslo config flag instead of a env variable, but I don't see a good ROI of that at the moment
12:17:32 sean-k-mooney so that was explcit not a goal for me because i saw it as a failure on our part if operatos needed to think about htis to that degree
12:17:54 sean-k-mooney ie.. the uptrade shoudl be tansparent becuase we shoudl get the default right before chanigng them
12:18:11 sean-k-mooney but ya i dont think we need to make it an oslo config
12:18:51 sean-k-mooney im just really hoping that most operator will upgrade form 2026.1 to 2027.1 and not notice that we changed the threadning mode
12:19:23 gibi the problem for me is that I cannot define good default that will work for differntly sized and shaped deployments
12:19:42 gibi in the past we used large numbers as pool size so that covered a wide range of deployments
12:19:53 gibi with threading we cannot use those large numbers any more without consequences
12:26:42 sean-k-mooney yep i understand. given we only supprot say 10 boot operation on a server or a limite number of migraton ectra i think the small numbers for the comptue are actully likely to be reasonble
12:27:09 sean-k-mooney for the api the scaling mode has alwasy been mainly via proceses,
12:27:25 sean-k-mooney the schduler and conductor are probaly the ones i woudl be most concerned with
12:28:14 sean-k-mooney both are horizontally scable and virtucally scalabel with workers but ya they may need different tuneing
12:28:57 sean-k-mooney gibi: i am quitely hopeful that we will see a similar uplift in performance that ironic saw although we may have been using less problematic patterns
12:58:15 gibi scatter gather across multi cell clouds will not scale by scaling the nova-api process
12:58:30 gibi it will only scale if you scale the number of threads close to the number of cells in the threadpool
14:16:14 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Enable mypy on nova/utils.py https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969936
15:01:07 dansmith bauzas: can you +W this trivial one-liner mock fix? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969503
15:01:23 dansmith we didn't catch it on initial merge because of the bug fixed by the patch above it
15:02:14 bauzas ack
15:02:49 dansmith thanks
15:03:02 dansmith the patch above would be nice too, but not as trivial
16:33:23 gmaan gibi: ack, will take alook today
16:34:15 gmaan bauzas: gibi sean-k-mooney I think +w was missed until something we are waiting for, otherwise, can either of you please hit +w https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/969543
16:53:18 sean-k-mooney gmaan: well for the backlog spec i guess
17:06:39 gmaan sean-k-mooney: did not get? this is in the backlog spec
17:33:44 JayF Stable backport of an Ironic bugfix, cleanly applied, V+1 already, for your consideration: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969833
17:38:06 sean-k-mooney gmaan: we are now techinically past spec freeze but given that is a backlog spec change that was +2id but not +w to allow folks to review i think we can proceed with it
17:44:39 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Fix missing guest.migrate(parallel=) mock arg https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969503
17:47:01 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Add spec3 in graceful shutdown backlog spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/969543
18:09:39 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova-specs master: add spec for resource tracker notifications https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/967712
18:10:55 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Collect result of _live_migration_operation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969501
18:38:37 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Make QEMU_IMG_LIMITS process limits configurable https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969538
18:40:23 melwitt gibi: changed to Closes-Bug ^ and added a few more words to the commit message
19:06:31 gmaan sean-k-mooney: yeah, that is my understanding too.
20:42:00 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Make QEMU_IMG_LIMITS process limits configurable https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969538
#openstack-nova - 2025-12-06
08:20:37 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: testing ... https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970011
16:36:34 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970011
#openstack-nova - 2025-12-07
14:36:18 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970011
14:39:32 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: DNM: testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/970052
14:53:46 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/970052
14:59:37 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/970052
15:00:54 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add Python 3.13 functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970058
16:04:00 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add Python 3.13 functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970058
16:18:17 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Replace obsolete PCRE packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970063
16:21:20 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Replace obsolete PCRE packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/970066
16:22:24 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Replace obsolete PCRE packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/970066
16:24:56 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Replace obsolete PCRE packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970067
16:25:34 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add Python 3.13 functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970058
16:27:21 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: Replace obsolete PCRE packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/970068
16:38:09 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add Python 3.13 functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970058
17:02:46 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970011
17:26:47 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: Migrate upper functional job to Python 3.13 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/970052
17:29:33 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove eventlet from CacheConcurrencyTestCase https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970069
17:32:36 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add Python 3.13 functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/970058
17:58:42 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove eventlet from CacheConcurrencyTestCase https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970069
17:58:43 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove eventlet from libvirt/test_driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970070
18:37:11 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove eventlet from libvirt/volume/test_mount https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970071
#openstack-nova - 2025-12-08
00:45:40 opendevreview Seyeong Kim proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Support boot_index for multiple block devices https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/963665
07:27:49 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: create generic check for mem encryption support by host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967969
07:27:50 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: remove explicit SEV dependency from nova.scheduler.utils https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967971
07:27:50 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: stop using _get_mem_encryption_config() for SEV checks https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967970
07:27:51 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: fix code that assumes SEV in configuring guests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967973
07:27:51 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: make RP creation independent of specific encryption models https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967972
07:27:52 opendevreview Taketani Ryo proposed openstack/nova master: mem-enc: fix requirement checks for mem_encryption guests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/967974
08:38:18 opendevreview Artem Vasilyev proposed openstack/nova master: Fix functional tests on macOS https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/937727
08:38:50 opendevreview Artem Vasilyev proposed openstack/nova master: Fix functional tests on macOS https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/937727
16:16:20 opendevreview Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/nova-specs master: [spec] Add Cross-AZ scheduling blueprint https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/900296
16:41:28 thill Hello! Looking for additional feedback on this spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/968065. Hoping to work through ideas/concerns to find a solution to our problem and it's proving to be a bit more difficult than anticipated.
18:35:31 sean-k-mooney thill: ignoring the detail of the spec for a minute teh spec freeze for this cycle was last thursday meaing that by defult this will have to be repropsoed for 2026.2
18:37:29 sean-k-mooney in general usign teh nvoa user to allwo access to a resuce that a user could not otherwise use si privldage eslcaltion so allwoign a user to boot form a image they canot normally download is generally a security problem
18:38:31 sean-k-mooney the user can exfiltrate any data form teh image by just booting form a rescue image and copyint the block device or chreating a snapshot and download that
18:38:52 sean-k-mooney so im not really seaing a compleing reason to supprot booting from an image you cant download
19:01:35 jgwentworth sean-k-mooney: that's my thought on it as well ... if you can boot an instance from an image, you can effectively download the image. I appreciate that having to copy it is more difficult than being able to use the download API ... but the fact that the user can still effectively download it makes the idea of "can boot but cannot download" not so compelling to me either
19:38:13 thill Fair enough! I don't have any arguments against that logic at this point. I'll bubble this up and see what we want to do going forward. Thank you!
22:18:35 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Use consistent program name for wsgi scripts and entry points https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/942605
23:02:07 JayF Stable patch for Ironic 2024.2, already +2 from Elod, everything applied cleanly, if someone would help me land it'd be awesome: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969833
#openstack-nova - 2025-12-09
07:38:02 opendevreview Artem Vasilyev proposed openstack/nova master: Fix functional tests and mypy on macOS https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/937727
09:31:41 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Remove openSUSE/SLES from install guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/949324
09:33:34 opendevreview Ivan Anfimov proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Enabling of using LibvirtDriver for compute node https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/939325
09:33:39 opendevreview Ivan Anfimov proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Enabling of using LibvirtDriver for compute node https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/939325
11:51:21 opendevreview Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional reproducer for bug 2096884 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/970238
11:53:24 DominikDanelski[m] sean-k-mooney: Sorry, I wasn't on the other end of the discussion, so I'm not sure how it works. Are you normally notified on comments with replies that haven't been resolved by them? I refer to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/969251/comment/7f85f631_a6a7fdbb/ Of course take your time, I only wanted to confirm that I've done it the right way.
11:55:04 sean-k-mooney DominikDanelski[m] so when yyou make the requeted change you shoudl mark it as done. if the ocmment is just geneal feedback but does not requrie a change you can mark it as acknolaged or you can reply and tick resolved in the ui to show the comment is nolonger relevnet
11:55:49 sean-k-mooney for that comment specificly i will get an emial when you updated the patch but not nessialy on a comment
11:56:15 sean-k-mooney the reason i asked you ot use a explcit flavor is its is not obvious why the excption should be raised without finding what the defualt flaovr is

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