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#openstack-nova - 2025-09-23
16:20:20 Uggla #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights
16:20:59 Uggla oops fwiesel is not there, so we can skip that one
16:21:04 bauzas cool
16:21:55 Uggla #topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal.
16:22:21 gibi sorry I'm distracted
16:22:23 gibi skip this please
16:22:26 Uggla I know gibi wants to cover a lot of stuff. But he is currently busy
16:22:42 gibi maybe at the end
16:22:45 gibi we can get back to it
16:22:50 gibi if not then next week
16:23:00 Uggla ok
16:23:13 Uggla #topic Open discussion
16:23:28 Uggla (Uggla) We need to change the schedule of that meeting. I will open a poll with suggestions, but I’d like to gauge the situation in the meantime here with some questions.
16:24:22 Uggla A lots of contributor here will not be available on tuesday anymore.
16:26:47 bauzas I guess that we unfortunately don't have a quorum now, but I think you could write an email to openstack-discuss@ by providing the poll into it :)
16:27:17 Uggla Yep I just would like to know 2 things
16:28:04 gibi what are our options?
16:28:32 Uggla What do you think on a meeting in the morning every 3 weeks that could be join by people in asia ?
16:28:56 Uggla morning for european ?
16:33:01 Uggla gibi, friday , monday 18h00 CET without daylight, changing day for 1/3 meeting (between monday and thursday), skipping 1/3 meeting, having 1/3 meeting (monday or thursday) morning CET.
16:33:06 elodilles (i don't have strong opinions on this, so I'm basically okay with what the team decides - as long as the meeting is not during late night in CET/CEST timezone o:))
16:33:30 gibi I have hard no on friday 18:00 CET
16:34:21 Uggla gibi, to be honest friday is a bad option. I proposed it but everybody will be fried at the end of the week
16:35:03 Uggla so +1
16:35:26 gibi I have another appointment that makes it not possible at friday late afternoon
16:36:11 bauzas agreed
16:36:18 Uggla elodilles do you feel confortable if 1/3 meeting will be on a different day ?
16:38:39 elodilles Uggla: could work for me
16:39:35 Uggla Does someone know if we can set the meeting always at the same time. Avoiding daylight ?
16:39:36 bauzas we had on-off asian-friendly meetings
16:39:47 bauzas usually once a month, didn't worked
16:40:17 bauzas Uggla: lemme check, that's not very helpful for worldwide contributors but we could
16:40:45 bauzas https://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting
16:41:04 Uggla Do you want a regular meeting every week, or 1/3 skipping one
16:42:26 gibi we can try morning call but my experience in the past about that was that even though the option was there there was no other folks joining
16:42:27 bauzas again, I don't think we have a quorum now, could you propose some framasoft pool with alternatives ?
16:42:30 gibi maybe this time will be different
16:42:53 bauzas gibi: we had noone joining us as we were also having the nova meeting on the same week
16:43:33 bauzas but if by that week, we do only have one meeting, which would be sooner than the usual one, then hopefully we would get quorum (at least more than now)
16:44:26 gibi we will miss melwitt dansmith gmaan_pto on the morning call. I hardly call that as a quorum
16:44:42 gibi the usual timezone problem
16:45:00 bauzas that's why I'd like to see alternatives
16:45:30 Uggla bauzas, as explained I will create a poll. Just want to reduce the list of options
16:45:43 bauzas heh, you haven't seen the one for TC meetings :)
16:45:52 bauzas that's nice
16:46:22 Uggla any pref between monday, wednesday, thursday.
16:47:18 bauzas I'm afraid we can't see meetings with another timezone but UTC
16:47:41 bauzas https://opendev.org/opendev/irc-meetings/src/branch/master/meetings/nova-team-meeting.yaml is the one we have but we can't set a timezone
16:48:13 Uggla monday 18h00 could work. But not with daylight.
16:48:24 bauzas but maybe yaml2ical is able to set a specific timezone
16:49:00 bauzas alas, no https://opendev.org/opendev/yaml2ical#yaml-meeting-file
16:49:30 bauzas Uggla: well, I can help with running the meeting at 1800 on daylight saving time, if you can't
16:49:55 bauzas but that's very late for most of our european contributors
16:49:59 Uggla no with daylight the meeting will be at 17h00 and will conflict with an internal one...
16:50:14 Uggla I mean in winter.
16:50:37 bauzas oh, you meant 1800CET ?
16:50:41 Uggla yep
16:50:58 bauzas ask this in the pool
16:51:52 Uggla but if I consider daylight I should set it at 19h00 (summer) 18h (winter)
16:52:02 bauzas fwiw, we could have two different meeting times
16:52:20 bauzas one before the daylight saving and the other one after the daylight saving, if that helps
16:52:29 bauzas yaml2cal is able to define it
16:52:32 gibi I'm here but I'm brained already
16:53:11 Uggla gibi, that's fine, i'd like to know if you have pref regarding a day for the meeting.
16:53:21 Uggla or constraint.
16:53:34 Uggla just trying to reduce the number of options a bit.
16:53:50 gibi looking at my company calendar, wednesday is out if during the winter the meeting moves to 17:00 CET
16:53:56 bauzas I guess we need to discuss that again next week
16:54:26 bauzas Uggla: maybe you should start writing an email thread, just explaining your problems
16:54:30 gibi monday might work company wise
16:54:42 bauzas and then we'll try to find a solution cooperatively :)
16:54:42 Uggla not with daylight
16:54:52 Uggla for monday
16:55:52 Uggla bauzas sure.
16:57:38 gibi I'm dropping. Sorry.
16:57:42 Uggla Ok lets stop
16:58:01 Uggla at least I manage to remove the Friday option.
16:59:46 Uggla ok time to close. Thanks everyone.
16:59:51 elodilles (and note that daylight saving time switching is on different dates for example for US and EU folks)
16:59:52 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-23-16.01.log.html
16:59:52 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-23-16.01.html
16:59:52 Uggla #endmeeting
16:59:52 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-23-16.01.txt
16:59:52 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue Sep 23 16:59:52 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
17:01:12 elodilles hence, unfortunately sticking to UTC is probably the most straightforward :/
17:01:29 elodilles in my opinion
17:22:55 Uggla elodilles with all our internal meetings + daylight + reasonable time (not too late), I'm struggling to find a single day that works. :(
17:24:54 Uggla What I know is Tuesday is the worst, so we need to change.
21:11:51 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `user` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/942502
21:11:51 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `host` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941795
21:11:52 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add vtpm_secret_(uuid|value) to LibvirtLiveMigrateData https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952628
21:11:52 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/941483
21:11:53 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/942021
21:11:53 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: bump service version and require it for live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/962051
21:11:54 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/925771
21:11:55 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add late check for supported TPM secret security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/956975
21:11:55 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/952629
21:11:57 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM vtpm tempest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/957477
21:11:57 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Opt-in to new TPM secret security via resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/962052
21:55:15 clarkb zigo: is that with python3.13 too?

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