| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2025-09-09 | |||
| 16:50:22 | gibi | not a call form neutron to os-vif | |
| 16:50:34 | sean-k-mooney | ack well as i said we may be able to catch that excption and retry a limtied number of tiem in os-vif | |
| 16:50:43 | sean-k-mooney | kind of like we do for powering off cores | |
| 16:50:48 | gibi | sure. I rather want pyroute2 to fix the async code | |
| 16:50:49 | sean-k-mooney | btu i know neutron uses it more widely | |
| 16:51:09 | gibi | anyhow I have nothing further on this | |
| 16:52:17 | elodilles | (i added this to release team's weekly meeting's agenda for Friday, but i really hope that this will be sorted out until then :S) | |
| 16:53:02 | gibi | no worries I think we can go out with Flamingo even if the bug is there. Occasional failures that are fixed by the human retrying is not an end of the world | |
| 16:53:27 | gibi | elodilles: thanks!j | |
| 16:53:54 | elodilles | gibi: thanks too in advance for your mail to ML about this | |
| 16:55:03 | Uggla | good, anything else ? | |
| 16:55:43 | tkajinam | I was wondering if I could get any thoughts for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2122296 . we don't have enough time and I likely skip the meeting next week but we can discuss it later here or the meeting in 2 weeks | |
| 16:56:20 | tkajinam | that's about sateless firmware but I also want to discuss similar problem with sev/sev-es, too | |
| 16:56:45 | sean-k-mooney | i belive we had a similar situration with secure boot before | |
| 16:57:19 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. if you enabel uefi adn dont reqeust secure boto we shoudl not use the SB+SMM one right | |
| 16:57:30 | tkajinam | yeah | |
| 16:57:31 | tkajinam | we have firmware detection logic for secure boot now so I'm wondering if I should follow that pattern. | |
| 16:57:46 | tkajinam | though this means that we may break existing usage with firmware without explicit support declared | |
| 16:58:09 | tkajinam | (I feel like such usage would be anyway broken but want to hear any opinion about it | |
| 16:58:13 | sean-k-mooney | ya i dont have context loaded but i think that would be a good thing to fix eventually | |
| 16:58:36 | tkajinam | this is just for early heads-up | |
| 16:59:16 | sean-k-mooney | we cant rely on libvirt to select it? | |
| 16:59:29 | tkajinam | we can, though that would be a huge change | |
| 16:59:29 | sean-k-mooney | i vagely recall that being a thing in newer relases | |
| 16:59:47 | sean-k-mooney | ack. that is prbaly the correct long term solution | |
| 16:59:47 | tkajinam | libvirt is now capable to select a correct firmware with only flags provided | |
| 17:00:00 | tkajinam | Uggla, I think we can wrap up the call (unless anyone else has additional topics) | |
| 17:00:11 | tkajinam | s/call/meeting/ | |
| 17:01:02 | Uggla | ok time to close. Thanks everyone. | |
| 17:01:09 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-09-16.03.txt | |
| 17:01:09 | Uggla | #endmeeting | |
| 17:01:09 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-09-16.03.log.html | |
| 17:01:09 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-09-09-16.03.html | |
| 17:01:09 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Sep 9 17:01:09 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 17:01:23 | gibi | Uggla: thanks | |
| 17:01:24 | elodilles | thanks o/ | |
| 17:02:04 | tkajinam | thanks ! | |
| 17:02:12 | Uggla | you are welcome | |
| 17:03:54 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/osc-placement stable/2025.2: Update .gitreview for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/959744 | |
| 17:06:05 | sean-k-mooney | elodilles: just an fyi i have created a watcher release note prelude and will be proposing the cycle hights for it soon. once that is done i think we are also mostly done with watcher release artifacts | |
| 17:06:23 | sean-k-mooney | elodilles: my hope is to have those both merged before rc1 is created on thursday | |
| 17:08:57 | gibi | Uggla: FYI I've just approved https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959604 As I consider the content to be safe to land close to RC1. We have extensive discussion about the solution on IRC last week | |
| 17:09:18 | gibi | s/have/had/ | |
| 17:09:39 | Uggla | gibi, thx and sorry for the mistake in the meeting. :) | |
| 17:10:09 | gibi | Uggla: no worries | |
| 17:13:15 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Rally job for eventlet-removal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960130 | |
| 17:15:56 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/osc-placement stable/2025.2: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/2025.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/959745 | |
| 17:18:34 | opendevreview | Nell Jerram proposed openstack/nova master: Add managed='no' flag to libvirt XML definition for VIF type TAP https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960284 | |
| 17:19:50 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: setup: Remove pbr's wsgi_scripts https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/902688 | |
| 17:19:51 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate codespell configuration to pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953704 | |
| 17:19:51 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate mypy configuration to pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953703 | |
| 17:19:52 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate setup configuration to pyproject.toml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/953705 | |
| 17:25:07 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Update libvirt version support matrix for Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960301 | |
| 17:25:29 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Update libvirt version support matrix for Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960301 | |
| 17:25:40 | tkajinam | ^^^ this might be worth merging before rc1 | |
| 19:12:51 | elodilles | sean-k-mooney: ACK, will check those tomorrow, thanks for the heads up o/ | |
| #openstack-nova - 2025-09-10 | |||
| 07:53:21 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Rally job for eventlet-removal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960130 | |
| 08:40:02 | opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add Flamingo prelude section https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959188 | |
| 09:26:05 | opendevreview | Julien LE JEUNE proposed openstack/nova master: Adds regression test for bug LP#2044235 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960349 | |
| 09:33:34 | Uggla | zigo would you be able to rebase your patch 930444: Update Debian qemu/libvirt/libguestfs versions | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/930444 on top of the one from tkajinam (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960301) ? | |
| 09:46:09 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Update Debian qemu/libvirt/libguestfs versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/930444 | |
| 09:46:26 | tkajinam | Uggla zigo, I've rebased it. I also modified it a bit because Trixie is already GA (UUIC) | |
| 09:46:57 | Uggla | tkajinam 👍 | |
| 09:48:21 | zigo | tkajinam: Great, thanks a lot ! | |
| 09:49:06 | zigo | This lists versions of qemu, libvirt and so on, right? | |
| 09:52:00 | zigo | Got it: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/libvirt-distro-support-matrix.html :) | |
| 10:03:39 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: docs: Update libvirt version support matrix for Flamingo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960301 | |
| 11:29:23 | sean-k-mooney | tkajinam: it is but it wont offilaly be supproted until next cycle aka friday | |
| 11:30:24 | sean-k-mooney | tkajinam: once master is reopend im hoping ot finish the work that was started to supprot it in devstack and swap the nova-hybird-plug job form 12 to 13 | |
| 11:32:15 | tkajinam | sean-k-mooney, yeah that's true | |
| 11:32:20 | tkajinam | due to python version | |
| 11:33:12 | sean-k-mooney | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/954653 | |
| 11:33:21 | sean-k-mooney | tkajinam: no | |
| 11:33:36 | sean-k-mooney | becuase we select the supproted plathforms before the release starts | |
| 11:33:47 | sean-k-mooney | and it was not release at the start of 2025.2 | |
| 11:33:58 | sean-k-mooney | openstack seams to work fine on it | |
| 11:33:58 | tkajinam | yeah that's true | |
| 11:34:07 | sean-k-mooney | but it will be an offical testign runtime form friday | |
| 11:34:12 | tkajinam | though I thought Trixie uses python 3.13 | |
| 11:34:28 | tkajinam | I understand what you mean | |
| 11:37:02 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: hypervisors: Optimize uptime retrieval for better performance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959604 | |
| 11:37:15 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Update Debian qemu/libvirt/libguestfs versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/930444 | |
| 11:43:41 | opendevreview | Julien LE JEUNE proposed openstack/nova master: Adds regression test for bug LP#2044235 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/960349 | |
| 11:56:06 | gibi | Uggla: sean-k-mooney: elodilles: I've sent the question about pyroute2 req rollback to ML and proposed the req patch. https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/FFYMQTJPJREQZ2P32HGS5HE2NLTXHVUC/ and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/960366 | |
| 12:05:06 | zigo | Your thoughts ? | |
| 12:05:06 | zigo | So I wonder, would the team agree for a feature to disallow spawning an instance with boot from volume, if it is with a flavor that has a system disk? Of course, that would be only an option (or a policy ?) and we could keep the usual old (permissive) behavior of the Nova API. | |
| 12:05:06 | zigo | However, there's a problem when customers are doing a boot from volume, and select a flavor that includes a system disk. In this case, they get billed for something they will never be able to use. | |
| 12:05:06 | zigo | At my company, we bill instances depending on their resources. ie: if you want a 20GB system disk, you get billed (linearly) for it. Nothing special here. | |
| 12:05:06 | zigo | Hi there! | |
| 12:12:10 | elodilles | gibi: ACK, thanks o/ let's see if we get an answer for req folks | |
| 12:12:19 | elodilles | s/for/from | |
| 12:43:05 | sean-k-mooney | zigo: just reading back | |
| 12:44:13 | sean-k-mooney | zigo: what do you mean by 20GB system disk, do you mean a flavor with nova provisioned storage i.e. root_GB and/or ephmeral_GB >0 | |
| 12:45:34 | sean-k-mooney | zigo: i advocated for blockign BFV instnace form using flavor with root_gb >0 when we prevented non boot form volume instance using flavors with root_gb=0 | |
| 12:45:57 | sean-k-mooney | zigo: in the past it was consier too large of a upgrade impact for exisign clouds to make that change | |
| 12:46:15 | sean-k-mooney | zigo: i dont think we can jsut block it. but what we coudl do is add a policy rule for it | |
| 12:46:39 | sean-k-mooney | we have a policy rule for allowing non BFV guest to use falvoar with 0 root_gb | |
| 12:47:17 | sean-k-mooney | we could add one for BFV with flavors that are not 0 | |
| 12:47:38 | sean-k-mooney | and then you could configure that to @ or a specific rule other then member | |
| 12:48:12 | sean-k-mooney | i dont recally if '@' is the sentenil for no one or everyoen but we have sental values for both | |