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#openstack-nova - 2025-05-20
16:54:16 Uggla Next one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2108974 - Keypairs lost during cross-cell resize in instance_extra
16:54:26 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Revert "Support glance's new location API" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/950336
16:55:42 gibi it has reproducer steps so somebody should run them and if reproducible mark it valid
16:56:29 Uggla Is resizing cross-cell supported ?
16:56:53 dansmith yeah
16:57:06 dansmith it uses shelve on the backend
16:57:22 dansmith and it has to copy between databases, so it might be missing something
16:58:46 gibi The config drive associated with the server, if there is one, will be re-generated on the destination host in the target cell. Therefore if the server was created with personality files they will be lost. However, this is no worse than evacuating a server that had a config drive when the source and destination compute host are not on shared storage or when shelve offloading and unshelving a server
16:58:52 gibi with a config drive. If necessary, the resized server can be rebuilt to regain the personality files.
16:59:07 gibi so maybe such config drive regen is the problem
16:59:25 gibi (the above is from https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/cross-cell-resize.html#limitations )
16:59:59 dansmith ah yep
17:01:04 gibi the bug says it is lost form metadata response as well
17:01:29 Uggla yep I understand it is not only config drive.
17:01:49 gibi and it also points to `select keypairs from dst_cell.instance_extra ` I did not know we have a copy of a keypair there
17:02:01 gibi but it says it is in the source cell
17:02:09 gibi so that is probably not copied to the dest cell DB
17:02:16 gibi I vote that this is valid
17:02:47 Uggla I can try to reproduce, but I'm unsure how to easily deploy a multi cell env.
17:03:31 gibi we have multicell job we just need to see if we can enable some tempest there to catch this
17:04:59 sean-k-mooney thats in the sepc for what its porth
17:05:29 sean-k-mooney at least im 99% sure we called out that any files injected in the config drive would be lost with a cross cell resize
17:06:14 sean-k-mooney https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/ussuri/implemented/cross-cell-resize.html#known-issues
17:06:16 sean-k-mooney limiation 3
17:06:30 sean-k-mooney Servers created with personality files, commonly known as file injection, that are resized across cells will lose the personality files since they are not persisted in the database
17:06:42 gibi sean-k-mooney: keypairs are not personality files
17:06:52 gibi afaik
17:06:56 dansmith correct
17:07:06 dansmith but they mentioned instance_extra
17:07:20 dansmith so if there's something we're not copying there and then regen'ing the configdrive...
17:07:44 sean-k-mooney oh it the keypari
17:07:55 sean-k-mooney ok that shoudl be copied and regenerated
17:08:13 sean-k-mooney i actully otught keyparis were in teh api db
17:08:33 sean-k-mooney not the cell db but i guess we embded them when we first create teh instance in the cell db?
17:08:40 dansmith keypairs themselves are I think (maybe) but the instance's attachment to them is in the main one of course
17:08:50 sean-k-mooney ack
17:09:49 sean-k-mooney im wondering if we could see this in ci. i think this is valid in anycase
17:10:12 sean-k-mooney we could create a repodcuer functional tests. in thoery tempest coudl detect this also
17:10:26 sean-k-mooney we just need to curl the metadata after the resize
17:10:32 sean-k-mooney or check the config drive i guess
17:10:49 sean-k-mooney presumable it workign now because the keypari is already in the authorized keys
17:11:24 Uggla sean-k-mooney, I'd like to try to do a reproducer.
17:11:30 gibi yepp we should be able to catch this in tempest
17:12:16 sean-k-mooney the workaround for now is just pass the keypari again on rebuild i guess
17:12:23 Uggla So if you all agree I will set this bug to valid and I'll try to do a reproducer. But I may need your help.
17:12:38 sean-k-mooney ack, sure shout if you hit issues
17:13:25 Uggla I will also update the bug with the workaround and remind limitation.
17:14:02 Uggla We are overtime, so I think we can wrap for today.
17:14:20 sean-k-mooney im not sure if we have multi cell functional tests today so that could be "fun" to make work
17:14:55 sean-k-mooney reproducing it in tempest will be simpler in this specific case.
17:15:10 sean-k-mooney oh we do https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_cross_cell_migrate.py
17:15:29 dansmith matt riedemann did that work, so I was *sure* there was functional testing for it :D
17:16:07 sean-k-mooney ack. getting diffent config to work in the fucntionla tests is still a bit fo a pain so i was unsure if we did or not
17:17:15 Uggla anything else ?
17:17:32 Uggla Thanks all and thanks for the extended time for bug triage.
17:17:37 Uggla #endmeeting
17:17:40 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-20-16.01.log.html
17:17:40 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-20-16.01.html
17:17:40 Uggla #endmeeting
17:17:40 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-20-16.01.txt
17:17:40 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue May 20 17:17:40 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
17:18:31 elodilles thanks o/
17:19:51 masahito thank
17:21:24 gibi Uggla: thanks
17:21:49 Uggla you are welcome.
17:24:11 sean-k-mooney Uggla: so https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_cross_cell_migrate.py#L816-L826 test_cold_migrate_target_host_in_other_cell
17:24:36 sean-k-mooney get you to the point where the vm has be moved to a differnt cell
17:24:48 sean-k-mooney you shoudl be able to use that as a baseline to create a repoducer
17:25:08 Uggla ok but it is a fn test right ?
17:25:39 Uggla You have said that a tempest one should be easier.
17:25:44 Uggla Am i wrong ?
17:26:07 sean-k-mooney that was assumign we did nto have functional test coverage for this which we do
17:26:27 sean-k-mooney so it should be pretty simple to extend since all the infra is in place
17:27:14 Uggla ok I will try to reproduce with the fn ones though.
17:27:44 sean-k-mooney _resize_and_validate accepts a server and returns server, source_rp_uuid, target_rp_uuid, old_flavor, new_flavor
17:27:59 sean-k-mooney so you can create a server with a key pair
17:28:07 sean-k-mooney assert that its in the first cell db
17:28:13 sean-k-mooney then call that to move it
17:28:20 sean-k-mooney and then check the second db
17:28:26 sean-k-mooney i think that woudl work
17:29:28 Uggla sean-k-mooney, OK I'll try.
#openstack-nova - 2025-05-21
01:04:54 opendevreview Merged openstack/placement master: improve test logging and replace psycopg2 with psycopg2-binary https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/945487
06:33:27 opendevreview Arnaud Morin proposed openstack/nova master: Fix missing marker with instances in build_requests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/947804
06:34:51 opendevreview Stefan K proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add Cloud Hypervisor support spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/945549
09:24:57 sean-k-mooney Uggla: there are 2 potential specless blueprint for use to consider https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xml-image-meta which has an implemeation aviabel https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp/xml-image-meta%22 is the first
09:25:56 sean-k-mooney Uggla: the author reached out druing feature freeze and i chatted to them about it and gave some early feedback but they never procedurlly asked for the blueprint to be specless and for it to be reviewd
09:26:31 sean-k-mooney i suggested that they add it to the next meeting or ask for the approave via the mailing list if they cant attend
09:27:06 sean-k-mooney the ohter is more of a feature request but i think it could be specless https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/NSW3OG5ME5RDPQYLHF4T4RCWPQYG57PK/
09:27:39 sean-k-mooney TLDR libvirt can now auto free ram allocated to a geust when the guest releases it internally.
09:27:55 sean-k-mooney you would not really want to do that for realtime vms
09:28:10 sean-k-mooney and you cant do it for hugepage/filebacked vms
09:28:32 sean-k-mooney but for standard vms we proably shoudl just enabel that always
09:28:54 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I need to go to the physio in 30 mins but if you have time, it would be nice if you could help me on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/922140
09:29:03 sean-k-mooney this is more just an fyi that thsoe would both eb low hanging fruite features.
09:29:43 sean-k-mooney bauzas: form the logs the last time it was pretty clear that the isseu was nto with the subnode using the wrong commit
09:30:20 sean-k-mooney i say you said that in the team meeting yesterday but that was no tthe problem previosuly, we coudl see the commit that was beign used in the job output on the ocmptue and it was correct
09:30:26 sean-k-mooney witht hat said sure i can take a look
09:30:59 Uggla sean-k-mooney, Ok I will add them to the doc and we will be able to discuss them in next meeting if it is required.
09:31:23 sean-k-mooney bauzas: i assume you have tired this locally?
09:37:27 sean-k-mooney bauzas: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/d31c2c01045a409a96d9dfd5e8aabbaa/log/job-output.txt#25980 so its defintly using the expected commit on the compute node

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