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#openstack-nova - 2025-05-13
16:54:10 fwiesel Uggla: Here is the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-migrate-parallel
16:54:19 Uggla fwiesel, thx
16:54:29 Uggla sean-k-mooney, ok that works for me.
16:54:34 Uggla next one:
16:54:46 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103413
16:56:47 gibi do we officially support 3.13?
16:56:52 Uggla We are not supporting 3.13 yet.
16:56:53 sean-k-mooney no yet
16:57:04 sean-k-mooney its part of the experimantal runtime for this release
16:57:11 sean-k-mooney and offically should be supported in 2026.1
16:57:13 gmaan not yet but we should start testing it as it can be mandatory for next cycle
16:57:17 gmaan yeah
16:57:22 sean-k-mooney however ubuntu 25.04 is already using it
16:57:35 sean-k-mooney and its an issue for debian 13 also i think
16:57:37 gibi it is probably yet another eventlet issue we might or might not able to patch
16:57:47 sean-k-mooney eventlet is curently broken on it in general
16:57:56 Uggla and also it might be linked to gibi's work on eventlet.
16:58:23 sean-k-mooney only by name
16:58:33 gibi the eventlet work will not be finished in F so if in G we need to support 3.13 then we are in the pickle
16:58:47 sean-k-mooney so if someone knwo how to make it work on 3.13 and can propose a fix
16:59:07 sean-k-mooney then we shoudl review it and conside rbackporting to enable debian based distros to supprot epoxy
16:59:16 sean-k-mooney but its not offically supproted there so its best effort
16:59:49 sean-k-mooney gibi: well i know that eventlet on 3.13 has issues with the threadid
17:00:09 sean-k-mooney as in its ment to patch the thread id so that it returns the greenthread id instead
17:00:10 gibi this seems to be a GC + eventlet issue
17:00:13 sean-k-mooney and thats not workign properly
17:00:21 gibi I would not bet on an easy fix
17:00:32 gibi not in F.
17:00:41 gibi in G we might be able to get rid of eventlet :)
17:00:57 sean-k-mooney that one way to fix the issue :)
17:01:08 gibi that is the only way I want to bet on :)
17:01:36 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1030
17:01:49 sean-k-mooney so this was the issue i was aware of that was the blocker for nova on 3.13
17:01:56 sean-k-mooney you dont actully need nova to trigger it
17:02:03 sean-k-mooney but it happens for nova too
17:02:29 sean-k-mooney ah and https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1032
17:02:34 sean-k-mooney is the issue we are talking about
17:03:06 sean-k-mooney so we might want to mark it incomplete or invalid and refnrence that https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/1032
17:03:22 sean-k-mooney basicaly eventlet needs to supprot 3.13 before we can
17:03:31 Uggla yep I can explain the situation in the ticket.
17:03:35 gibi OK
17:03:57 JayF Those issues getting fixed were blocked by CI + some administrivia in that repo which I think are resolved now.
17:04:34 masahito sorry for the slow reply for the 1st bug. the attach volume API makes 2 RPC from nova-api to nova-compute, 1st one is call RPC and 2nd one is cast RPC. if the nova-api gets failed between the 2 rpc, garbage block device information remaining.
17:04:54 masahito (I think it's okay to talk the details later.)
17:05:24 Uggla there is also a status deferred for the ticket
17:06:01 Uggla Are you ok to do one more bug ?
17:06:49 sean-k-mooney sure
17:06:56 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103413
17:07:17 sean-k-mooney that seams to be mostly the same thing?
17:07:53 sean-k-mooney wiat its exaclty the same bug
17:08:23 Uggla https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103513
17:08:23 gibi then we are done :)
17:08:23 sean-k-mooney Uggla: did you mean to post a differnt url?
17:08:39 Uggla sorry wrong copy pasta
17:09:05 gibi I have no clue about TLS spice
17:09:57 sean-k-mooney so i dont know if nova actully supprot this yet
17:10:13 sean-k-mooney i remember talking about this in the recent spci enabling
17:10:14 Uggla what it is on dalmatian
17:10:32 sean-k-mooney right but im not sure if that is expected to work even on master
17:10:38 Uggla oh
17:10:46 sean-k-mooney it might
17:10:56 sean-k-mooney but i dont belilve we have tempest testing of it currently
17:11:08 sean-k-mooney we only recnetly readded spice testing last cycle
17:11:16 sean-k-mooney after not having any tempest testing with it for years
17:11:29 sean-k-mooney lets loop back to this again next week
17:11:52 sean-k-mooney and maybe ask mikal about it
17:12:02 Uggla ok that sounds good.
17:12:33 Uggla At least I can right a comment about it.
17:12:44 Uggla that's all for today.
17:13:18 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/922544
17:13:47 sean-k-mooney ok in theory that was added in dalmation
17:13:55 sean-k-mooney but perhaps only when usign kerbside
17:14:05 sean-k-mooney in anycase we can wrap for today
17:14:25 Uggla Thanks all and thanks for the extended time for bug triage.
17:14:33 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-13-16.01.log.html
17:14:33 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-13-16.01.txt
17:14:33 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-05-13-16.01.html
17:14:33 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue May 13 17:14:33 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
17:14:33 Uggla #endmeeting
17:14:39 gibi Uggla: thanks
17:14:50 masahito thanks
17:15:09 Uggla you are welcome
17:16:55 Uggla Fyi I will fill the tickets tomorrow morning. I need to afk now to feed the family.
18:39:56 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Replace eventlet semaphores with threading one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948437
18:40:09 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: [hacking] N373 do not use eventlet primitives https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/947265
20:02:52 opendevreview Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Example NVMe cleaning script for one-time-use https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948446
#openstack-nova - 2025-05-14
06:41:42 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Example NVMe cleaning script for one-time-use https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/948446
07:47:38 Luzi hi, is someone still working on the AMD SEV-ES patches? https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bp/amd-sev-es-libvirt-support
07:49:43 Luzi tkajinam, have you implemented this?
08:25:15 schwicke About the vGPU discussion yesterday: Last year, we got hands on some 4x H100 NVIDIA GPUs, and I finally managed to rework our patch at CERN for Nova (still on Yoga, sorry).
08:27:04 schwicke It now allows to configure each of the 4 cards in a single server differently with MIG while in the old days all cards had to have the same setup.
08:27:12 schwicke Happy to share if people are interested.
08:56:23 opendevreview ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Mention IRC topic update in PTL post-PTG checklist https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/949711
09:05:38 mikal sean-k-mooney: thanks for the hints on doing an os-traits release. Who do I need to ask to review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/949710 ?
09:25:14 Luzi hi, is someone still working on the AMD SEV-ES patches? https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bp/amd-sev-es-libvirt-support
09:44:57 stephenfin mikal: that would be Uggla as PTL
09:45:12 stephenfin (and sorry, I missed your ping yesterday but glad you got to the bottom of it)
09:46:54 Uggla mikal, cool I'll have a look and check if it's ok.
09:48:08 Uggla mikal, btw we checked this but yesterday any feedback about it ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2103513
09:56:46 mikal Uggla: I replied to that bug earlier today... I am no javascript developer, but I can't see any evidence that the HTML5 SPICE client supports TLS. It would be possible to do, but I can't imagine anyone wants to do it.

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